#1 Edited by steelhound56 (1074 posts) - - Show Bio

Al Simmons, Malebolgia's Chosen General for Armageddon

VS

Alucard, The No Life King

FIGHT CONDITIONS

Both are bloodlusted.

Start 100 meters away from each other.

Fight to the death

No BFR

Alucard's .454 Casull and Jackal get 8 magazines apiece

Simmons gets an AUG HBAR Light Machine Gun, 8 magazines (336 rounds)

Simmon's power counter is set to 9:9:9:9. Once the counter limit is reached, he is limited to his suits latent powers for a half hour. Then, his power counter resets.

ROUND 1

Pre Schrodinger Alucard. All levels of release are authorized.

Post Angela fight Simmons. He has gained full control of his initial suit.

ROUND 2

Post Schrodinger Alucard

Post Redeemer II fight Simmons. Simmons has full control of his new suit

LOCATION

Madrid, Spain.

Who comes out on top?

#2 Edited by Strider92 (16771 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: I'm not sure. Could go either way. Unless Alucard is allowed release 0?

Round 2: I'll go for Spawn here. His magic was pretty overpowered during KOH arc. He'd probably find someway of cutting off Alucards abilities (as I believe Alucards powers come from hell? And as the king he could probably cut of his supply) or as he was casually ripping through dimensions he could probably trap him somewhere.

#3 Edited by steelhound56 (1074 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92: Alucard is allowed his level 0 release in Round 1.

But I personally think Post Redeemer Spawn could give him a hell of a fight regardless. His new suit's chains and cloak give him some good offensive power and range, and have an auto defense reaction to protect Simmons from harm (although this reaction does have limits)

#4 Posted by Kinasin_ (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

Alucard is completely outclassed anyway you look at it.

#5 Posted by steelhound56 (1074 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm, I figured this matchup would get a little more love than it has gotten.

I'm considering nerfing Simmons a bit if the fight is too one sided

#6 Posted by saiyan_earthling (5487 posts) - - Show Bio

Spawn kills Alucard, even with Schrodinger.

#7 Posted by nickthedevil (13659 posts) - - Show Bio

Spawn rips alucard apart. Char-baby.

#8 Posted by Killemall (18640 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickthedevil said:

Spawn rips alucard apart. Char-baby.

I dont see that happening personally, to me after having read Hellsing Volume 1 to 10, and seeing how Alucard has never been defeated or have come even close to being defeated after his level 0 release i dont see how Spawn would win. We have no clue what it takes to beat Alucard.

Personally, i am not well versed with Spawn so my assessment could be wrong. My knoweledge of Spawn comes from the battle threads here in comicvine. So does he have any telepathy defense? Alucard was mindraping an entire city, along with some werewolves and vampires in Volume 9, does Spawn has any defense against it? Is Spawn physically invulnerable because Luke Valentine, a vampire made solely to kill allucard, got eaten alive by Alucard, could he do that to Spawn?

#9 Posted by nickthedevil (13659 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope. Spawn has telepathy himself, and his suit gives him some invulnerability to it, but he's fought off Malebolgia's TP. Spawn beats Alucard 10/10

#10 Edited by Kinasin_ (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@nickthedevil said:

Spawn rips alucard apart. Char-baby.

I dont see that happening personally, to me after having read Hellsing Volume 1 to 10, and seeing how Alucard has never been defeated or have come even close to being defeated after his level 0 release i dont see how Spawn would win. We have no clue what it takes to beat Alucard.

Personally, i am not well versed with Spawn so my assessment could be wrong. My knoweledge of Spawn comes from the battle threads here in comicvine. So does he have any telepathy defense? Alucard was mindraping an entire city, along with some werewolves and vampires in Volume 9, does Spawn has any defense against it? Is Spawn physically invulnerable because Luke Valentine, a vampire made solely to kill allucard, got eaten alive by Alucard, could he do that to Spawn?

Trust me your assessment is wrong. This is king of hellspawn. Literally he has so many hax powers you can take a pick and goodbye alucard.

Even Post Redeemer outclasses alucard in everyway shape an form.

#11 Posted by steelhound56 (1074 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm editing this matchup to make it a little less one sided

#12 Posted by Kinasin_ (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

@steelhound56 said:

I'm editing this matchup to make it a little less one sided

BTW, Manga vs Comic isn't allowed.

#13 Posted by Billy Batson (58278 posts) - - Show Bio

Comics vs manga not allowed?
BB

#14 Edited by steelhound56 (1074 posts) - - Show Bio

I always thought it was anime vs comics that wasn't allowed, due to the quick degeneration of those threads into troll sessions, fanboys, and bickering....

#15 Posted by Kinasin_ (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

@Billy Batson said:

Comics vs manga not allowed?
BB

Was there some kind of rule change on this? Last time I checked it wasn't allowed. Remember the days of dbz vs comic battles?

#17 Posted by blueduck (24 posts) - - Show Bio

@steelhound56 said:

I always thought it was anime vs comics that wasn't allowed, due to the quick degeneration of those threads into troll sessions, fanboys, and bickering....

How is that different from what battle threads are now?

#18 Posted by nickthedevil (13659 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: yea, as stated before.

i have every showing of Al Simmons as Spawn. i only know about Alucard from the battle threads, like you with Spawn, but nothing Alucard has impressed me.

Spawn on the other hand is... just.... Over powered.

#19 Edited by steelhound56 (1074 posts) - - Show Bio

@blueduck: Touche. It was mainly due to DBZ vs comics threads IIRC. They just degenerated into festering piles of fanboyism and nonsensical name calling, trolling, and general unacceptable forum practices.

It's a shame too. But, that's the way things are. A few bad apples ruin the whole bushel.

There are several manga vs. comic debates that could be quite interesting IMO

#20 Posted by Nefarious (21979 posts) - - Show Bio

Alucard = Anime character.

#21 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (6588 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nefarious said:

Alucard = Anime character.

Hey, don't blame him, it was your idea! (You spun it around the Alucard vs. Buffy thread ... I saw ya! Good idea too BTW. Too bad anime vs. comics make it a no-no.)

Lol.

#22 Posted by Nefarious (21979 posts) - - Show Bio
@Super_SoldierXII: I don't think it was me. I just think Alucard is overrated. Though, I wish he was a comics character. 
#23 Posted by steelhound56 (1074 posts) - - Show Bio

Technically, Alucard is a manga character, since Kouta Hirano created the Hellsing manga wayy before the anime/ OVA came out...

but yeah, it is a no no. I'm guessing a mod should lock this thread soon.

#24 Posted by Kinasin_ (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

@steelhound56 said:

Technically, Alucard is a manga character, since Kouta Hirano created the Hellsing manga wayy before the anime/ OVA came out...

Damn good manga too.

#25 Posted by nickthedevil (13659 posts) - - Show Bio

I want Al Simmons back :(

#26 Posted by Kinasin_ (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickthedevil said:

I want Al Simmons back :(

He's bound to return sooner or later. Although I do feel the same. :(

#27 Posted by GrandSymbiote94 (11709 posts) - - Show Bio

Shame. Would've been a good battle if that rule wasn't implemented.

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#28 Posted by Killemall (18640 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nefarious said:

@Super_SoldierXII: I don't think it was me. I just think Alucard is overrated. Though, I wish he was a comics character.

I can see why he is over ratted, because in his universe he has never lost. That makes it hard for one to know what it takes to win over him.

#29 Posted by Strider92 (16771 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@nickthedevil said:

Spawn rips alucard apart. Char-baby.

I dont see that happening personally, to me after having read Hellsing Volume 1 to 10, and seeing how Alucard has never been defeated or have come even close to being defeated after his level 0 release i dont see how Spawn would win. We have no clue what it takes to beat Alucard.

Personally, i am not well versed with Spawn so my assessment could be wrong. My knoweledge of Spawn comes from the battle threads here in comicvine. So does he have any telepathy defense? Alucard was mindraping an entire city, along with some werewolves and vampires in Volume 9, does Spawn has any defense against it? Is Spawn physically invulnerable because Luke Valentine, a vampire made solely to kill allucard, got eaten alive by Alucard, could he do that to Spawn?

I'm a big fan of both and Alucard stands a good chance of beating age 1 Spawn but King Of Hell Spawn is just overkill. He could rip through dimensions, stop time, had control over all the demons in hell and a lot of other haxed abilties. Spawn wouldn't need to kill him, he could just toss Alucard into another dimension or send him to hell.

#30 Posted by Nefarious (21979 posts) - - Show Bio
@Killemall: Exactly. 
#31 Edited by XEL820 (230 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: Mmmmmm... This is a tough one.. Not too sure.

Round 2: I'm gonna go ahead and give this one to Alucard. Post-Schrodinger Alucard is nothing more than a conscience. You can't exactly harm a conscience. Alucard would just let himself be killed again and again, to no avail of Spawn. Alucard is everywhere, yet nowhere. He exist, yet doesn't. How exactly do you defeat an opponent that is nowhere and doesn't exist?

EDIT: The throwing Alucard into another dimension or sending him to hell method wouldn't work either, seeing as Alucard can be wherever he wants. Schrodinger's powers basically made him.. It's tough to explain. He doesn't exist whatsoever, but at the same time, he can be wherever he wants to be. If you cut off his head, destroy his body, whatever, so long as he, as a conscience, can think, believe, and will himself back to life, he will return completely unharmed.

#32 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickthedevil said:

Spawn rips alucard apart. Char-baby.
#33 Posted by nickthedevil (13659 posts) - - Show Bio

King of Hell would have a obliterated him. 1st age would only lose because of his inexperience with his powers.

#34 Posted by nickthedevil (13659 posts) - - Show Bio

However, if he was adept with his Pre-metamorphosis powers he'd stomp anyway.

#35 Posted by Jezer (3152 posts) - - Show Bio

@XEL820 said:

Round 1: Mmmmmm... This is a tough one.. Not too sure.

Round 2: I'm gonna go ahead and give this one to Alucard. Post-Schrodinger Alucard is nothing more than a conscience. You can't exactly harm a conscience. Alucard would just let himself be killed again and again, to no avail of Spawn. Alucard is everywhere, yet nowhere. He exist, yet doesn't. How exactly do you defeat an opponent that is nowhere and doesn't exist?

EDIT: The throwing Alucard into another dimension or sending him to hell method wouldn't work either, seeing as Alucard can be wherever he wants. Schrodinger's powers basically made him.. It's tough to explain. He doesn't exist whatsoever, but at the same time, he can be wherever he wants to be. If you cut off his head, destroy his body, whatever, so long as he, as a conscience, can think, believe, and will himself back to life, he will return completely unharmed.

This is small and in no way impacts the validity of your post, but

*consciousness

I assume that's what you mean...

#36 Posted by slacker the hacker (7844 posts) - - Show Bio

ROUND 1 Alucard

Round 2 Spawn stomps

#37 Posted by terry2012 (5777 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: That true

#38 Posted by Strider92 (16771 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickthedevil said:

I want Al Simmons back :(

You know he's back right? (I won't tell you how to prevent spoilers if you haven't read it yet)

#39 Posted by nickthedevil (13659 posts) - - Show Bio

He's the Omega Spawn, sure but that's some kind of raging beast.

#40 Posted by Strider92 (16771 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickthedevil said:

He's the Omega Spawn, sure but that's some kind of raging beast.

But he's still bada$$ lol. Did you see the asswhooping he was dealing out?

#41 Posted by nickthedevil (13659 posts) - - Show Bio

On Jim Downing? And Image United? Yes... Wheres the Spawn i grew up with....

#42 Posted by TwistedCore (1 posts) - - Show Bio

Okay so, i believe the battle is equal so let me explain. First, Alucard power where he releases his demons can't be canceled if spawn shuts off his power to hell or whatever because Alucards demons aren't from hell as much as the souls that lie within him from everyone that he has killed. On top of this Both Alucard and Spawn can die. Spawn can be killed if he is beheaded by a holy sword (Or something) please understand i only watched the spawn movie but i have researched spawn a bit for this). Alucard Hasn't died or lost but in the 9th OVA it was hinted that you can indeed kill Alucard by removing his heart. Although Intengra says piercing his heart wont kill him, as i said, removing his heart to kill him is indeed suggested. Now when it comes to spawn i don't know if its a specific holy sword that can hill spawn or any holy sword that has been blessed.

#43 Posted by NeonGameWave (8526 posts) - - Show Bio

Spawn.

#44 Posted by monarch_prime (408 posts) - - Show Bio

Spawn.