Sosuke Aizen vs Madara Uchiha

Rules

One Week Prep

Win By Death, K.O or Surrender

In Character

No BFR

Madara: Possess The Evolved Eye, Able To Conjure Susanoo and Has Hashirama's DNA

Aizen: Has The Hōgyoku implant and Kyouka Suigetsu

Location

Opponent

http://www.comicvine.com/sosuke-aizen/29-42859/sosuke-aizen-the-best-villain-ever/92-724417/

Suigetsu is pretty Hax I don't know how Madara can get around that

So I'll go with Aizen

@jeanroygrant: Don't Under Estimate Aizen

Aizen's got the edge tho it would still be an epic fight.

Aizen is literally immortal. Nothing can kill him, hence why he is tied up. Not even Juhabach could kill him. Madara Uchiha won't be able to kill him either, if the fourth raikage can survive an Amaterasu, Aizen is going to sit there and laugh it off like a joke. People really need to stop making Amaterasu more powerful than it really is, it hasn't done anything to warrant it being so powerful. Yamamoto's flames have more feats than Amaterasu and actually shown it can burn something. I have yet to see Amaterasu burn anything.

It depends on who can trance who first...

Awesome fight, I'm not going to give vote though

ok

@OmgOmgWtfWtf said:

Aizen is literally immortal. Nothing can kill him, hence why he is tied up. Not even Juhabach could kill him. Madara Uchiha won't be able to kill him either, if the fourth raikage can survive an Amaterasu, Aizen is going to sit there and laugh it off like a joke. People really need to stop making Amaterasu more powerful than it really is, it hasn't done anything to warrant it being so powerful. Yamamoto's flames have more feats than Amaterasu and actually shown it can burn something. I have yet to see Amaterasu burn anything.

Yamamoto's flames at max were embodiment of sun.. Amaterasu is what happens when sun burns for seven days.. you are underestimating it a little..

This would be a good fight but Aizen would probably stomp Madara in the end.

Aizen wins unholy stomp

@KnightRise: Didn't the minions burned by yamamoto's flames still survive? Amaterasu is not instant death, but it is not anything to be taken lightly either, that's what I was saying..

@PrinceAragorn1:

It is not the temperature of the sun. Nowhere in the whole entire manga does it say Amaterasu is the temperature of sun or even close. If the Raikage, Obito, and regular samurais can survive it without any ill effect, then it goes to show that Amaterasu is pretty featless. People tend to overestimate its abilities when quite frankly its really overrated. It has yet to harm anyone. I can't name a single fatality from Amaterasu at all. However on the other hand, Yammato has actually disintegrated foes with his flames, says on panel that it is the temperature of the sun (Amaterasu has not been stated to be the temperature of the sun or even close, the only magical ability about it is that it won't stop burning), his bankai was hot that people in Soul Society could feel the air drying around them, and was stated numerous times his bankai would destroy Soul Society if activated too long. However, since this fight is not pertaining to Yammato I will stop here. The point is, Amaterasu is featless and for the most wouldn't affect Aizen, who has been said on panel to be immortal.

@OmgOmgWtfWtf: Even wiki can tell you that it is, no need to go scanning entire times where amaterasu appeared/was discussed.. Amaterasu is good enough, it's speciality is not its speed, but it being inextinguishable. It burn through anything, and continue to burn even if the object is destroyed, but is not any faster than regular fire, and the object can throw away his clothes/ remove his organs in that time. If anyone is foolish enough to sit and try to tank it, they are dead, aizen is not an exception.

If yamamoto was as hot as stated, everything around him would have been charred in an instant. And he was still walking around, air was not effected, neither were juha bach's clothes. What, if a miniature sun was there of the size of yama's head, it would have melted the rocks pretty easily, and soul society would have been destroyed before anyone knew it.

I am not saying that he is not as hot as said, just saying that the temperature works in a different way in the manga.

@UltimateHero0406

I realize they are different at a technical level, but at a general level, chakra and Reiatsu/Reiryoku are similar to chi/ki/qi concepts. When doing crossovers there needs to be some kind middle ground that allows people's attacks to work on each other unless there is a general immunity to the attacks in question to avoid unintended advantages, for instance madara being able to see and attack aizen is a compromise, but we should assume madara could not use gengetsu on terminators or wonder women. That's my take anyways, I've seen it done in some of the Star Trek/gate/wars and dr who battles for instance.

@PrinceAragorn1: The heat indeed effect the air from him being in the his bankai. It was vaporizing all moisture in the air over all of Soul Society even Fake Juha mentioned how dry his mouth was and the air was cutting his lips and Yamamoto would of destroyed the Soul Soiety if he remained in that state any longer than he had....hence he was trying to end the fight as soon as possible but his cockiness and his blind rage got the best of him.

Back on topic now.....Aizen should win here.

Going with Aizen here. And out of the two, I believe Aizen is a lot more dangerous with prep.

@CerberusPrime3k said:

@PrinceAragorn1: The heat indeed effect the air from him being in the his bankai. It was vaporizing all moisture in the air over all of Soul Society even Fake Juha mentioned how dry his mouth was and the air was cutting his lips and Yamamoto would of destroyed the Soul Soiety if he remained in that state any longer than he had....hence he was trying to end the fight as soon as possible but his cockiness and his blind rage got the best of him.

Back on topic now.....Aizen should win here.

Heat was effecting the atmosphere, I agree, but not as much as something as hot as sun would've done. Do you really think soul society would have lasted more than a second at that temperature?

Back on topic, I am inclining with Aizen, too. But to convert it into surely going with him, lets discuss a bit.

What can Aizen do to Madara? (I'm not saying he can't do anything, I'm just asking you so that I could try to come up with a defense)

Here, Madara has the evolved eye, or rinnegan, having all of nagato's techniques.. He, being the strongest uchiha, is expert in Genjutsu as well. Aizen probably has the speed advantage, but Madara has move prediction to neutralise it.

Let's begin.

@PrinceAragorn1:

Yet you fail to realize that Aizen is immortal, nothing is going to kill him, not even Amaterasu. If Yammato himself can't kill Aizen with his flames, which actually have feats and shown to burn things. Then I doubt Amaterasu, which has no on panel feats, would actually do any better. Aizen has already been disintegrated by Gin's bankai and he merely came back. I doubt Genjutsu would work on Aizen since he easily defeated Shinji Hirako's shikai which is an illusionary type. He even mocked it calling it a simple mind trick. Aizen could easily to use a hado that encompasses a radius much larger than Madara could dodge or use a bakudo for either defensive purposes or stealth. His speed is also much faster than Madara's and he could easily end the match in the first second by speed blitzing, but that would be out of character for him.

Aizen is literally immortal. Nothing can kill him, hence why he is tied up. Not even Juhabach could kill him. Madara Uchiha won't be able to kill him either, if the fourth raikage can survive an Amaterasu, Aizen is going to sit there and laugh it off like a joke. People really need to stop making Amaterasu more powerful than it really is, it hasn't done anything to warrant it being so powerful. Yamamoto's flames have more feats than Amaterasu and actually shown it can burn something. I have yet to see Amaterasu burn anything.

@OmgOmgWtfWtf: Amaterasu is in fact a good technique. It will burn anything it touches for days and cannot be extinguished. The problem with it is that it is slow and easily blocked. And if Aizen is in his perfect form, it probably won't even hurt him even if it is still burning. But other than that, if it hits, its actually a good technique.

@drgnx: Genjutsu won't work on Aizen. Genjutsu can't effect people outside of the Narutoverse. Genjutsu is not just illusions like Aizen. It is controlling the chakra in a person's brain to make them see and feel anything you want to. Aizen has no chakra, therefore he cannot be caught in genjutsu. But since Aizen's shikai has no limits of that sort, he would have the advantage over Madara in that area.

@ghost_rider1: Sasuke thought he could make an Amaterasu shield to protect himself, too bad the Raikage didn't care too much about Amaterasu to punch right through it. He still had his arm for a couple of pages before he decided to chop it off. It goes to show how weak Amaterasu is. Amaterasu is pretty featless when it comes down to it supposed power. If people are slow enough to take their time to remove what is affected, then Amaterasu is literally not even a threat to Aizen. Fact is, people hype Amaterasu more than it has actually shown. I have people say its the temperature of the sun and can burn you up in mere moments, too bad it hasn't done anything to warrant such attention. Truthfully, I don't even think it is hotter than an average fire judging from what it has done. The only special thing it has going is that it can't be extinguished by normal means.

@ghost_rider1: Those are two different things. Allowing them to see one another doesn't affect the outcome of the battle. If one fighter can't see the other then what is the point? Besides, there is no reason why genjutsu would work on Aizen since he has no chakra to control. It wouldn't make sense. That would be like saying that someone from Dragonball could sense the presence of someone from death note. People in death note do not have Ki and cannot be sensed in that way. Unless it is stated in the op as an exception, genjutsu will not work on people from Bleach or anyone outside the Narutoverse.

@ghost_rider1: Sasuke thought he could make an Amaterasu shield to protect himself, too bad the Raikage didn't care too much about Amaterasu to punch right through it. He still had his arm for a couple of pages before he decided to chop it off. It goes to show how weak Amaterasu is. Amaterasu is pretty featless when it comes down to it supposed power. If people are slow enough to take their time to remove what is affected, then Amaterasu is literally not even a threat to Aizen. Fact is, people hype Amaterasu more than it has actually shown. I have people say its the temperature of the sun and can burn you up in mere moments, too bad it hasn't done anything to warrant such attention. Truthfully, I don't even think it is hotter than an average fire judging from what it has done. The only special thing it has going is that it can't be extinguished by normal means.

@ghost_rider1:

Obito extinguished the flames used against him before, so your first point is moot. And I don't see how anything you said countered my point on how the Raikage didn't dodge the flame. He took the flame without any concern for its affect and still managed to cut off his arm, despite the flames supposed power. If it hit Aizen in the face, he would most likely laugh at how long it would take to burn his face. Aizen already had his whole body disintegrated by Gin and came back. So I really don't see how Amaterasu is going to hurt him.

@ghost_rider1:

Obito extinguished the flames used against him before, so your first point is moot. And I don't see how anything you said countered my point on how the Raikage didn't dodge the flame. He took the flame without any concern for its affect and still managed to cut off his arm, despite the flames supposed power. If it hit Aizen in the face, he would most likely laugh at how long it would take to burn his face. Aizen already had his whole body disintegrated by Gin and came back. So I really don't see how Amaterasu is going to hurt him.

@ghost_rider1: Too bad Aizen is immortal. A point I have been repeating over and over again. You can't kill him. Even if the flames manage to disintegrate him, which I highly doubt it would, he would just show back up again more powerful then before. Not to mention he could just use bakudo to block the flames from hitting him if he really wanted to. Madara is outclassed here.

Madara wins via OVERPOWERED EMS & RINNENGAN. Serously though if he uses Ultimate Susanoo it's all over. He has a lot of ways to take out Aizen.

@ghost_rider1: Too bad Aizen is immortal. A point I have been repeating over and over again. You can't kill him. Even if the flames manage to disintegrate him, which I highly doubt it would, he would just show back up again more powerful then before. Not to mention he could just use bakudo to block the flames from hitting him if he really wanted to. Madara is outclassed here.

@PrinceAragorn1 said:

@CerberusPrime3k said:

@PrinceAragorn1: The heat indeed effect the air from him being in the his bankai. It was vaporizing all moisture in the air over all of Soul Society even Fake Juha mentioned how dry his mouth was and the air was cutting his lips and Yamamoto would of destroyed the Soul Soiety if he remained in that state any longer than he had....hence he was trying to end the fight as soon as possible but his cockiness and his blind rage got the best of him.

Back on topic now.....Aizen should win here.

Heat was effecting the atmosphere, I agree, but not as much as something as hot as sun would've done. Do you really think soul society would have lasted more than a second at that temperature?

Back on topic, I am inclining with Aizen, too. But to convert it into surely going with him, lets discuss a bit.

What can Aizen do to Madara? (I'm not saying he can't do anything, I'm just asking you so that I could try to come up with a defense)

Here, Madara has the evolved eye, or rinnegan, having all of nagato's techniques.. He, being the strongest uchiha, is expert in Genjutsu as well. Aizen probably has the speed advantage, but Madara has move prediction to neutralise it.

Let's begin.

Well He has his shikai Suigetsu which is almost un avoidable once he unsheathes his sword I don't even think he needs to fully unsheathe it to take control of victims mind unless you know the way to get out of it like Gin

For his speed I'm leaning towards his speed being untraceable because of the nature how he moves assuming this ascended Aizen but nonetheless I think Madara will have a hard time tracking Flash Step

Aizen is also a Kido Master I see nothing in Madara's arsenal getting past Danku besides a meteor strike there are other Bakudos and Hados Aizen should know that could Seal,Trap,Bind,or Obliderate Madara

Assuming this is Ascended Aizen once again.....there is really no name for his forms.....His destructibility rivals Madara's complete Susanoo

@OmgOmgWtfWtf: Hmm.. Right, so edo Madara should be used here.. Then we can have a nice stalemate. And aizen will not laugh if his face is being burned away. He was not laughing when gin disintegrated him, he was not laughing when ichigo destroyed him, why will he laugh when he is getting his face burned? And, what if Amaterasu is used on the Hogyoku? what will aizen do once it's burned off?

Yamamoto's flames, are normal flames. They are not inextinguishable. They will stop burning after a while. There is difference between the two. Once you are caught by amaterasu, you cannot do anything except chopping your limbs off or using your sharingan. He defeated a different type of illusion, shinji had to use his sword to hit, still. No one from bleach uses illusions to directly hurt the enemy, unless I'm forgetting some one.

I agree that aizen is faster, but he is not going to blitz here. Madara has been keeping up with lighter raikage's speeds, and with his sharingan and reflexes, blitz is out of question.

Final form of Aizen, I'm inclining towards him, but I don't think Madara is outclassed. No.

@CerberusPrime3k: Agreed. Btw, you don't need to insert scans, I remember the fight perfectly, and I don't think you'd lie just to show aizen>madara..

Now, if he has ks, madara has his Gen jutsu to counter effectively. It'd be weird to see how the two will fight, if they are both using illusions..

Aizen is definitely faster than madara, no doubt, but sharingan specializes in predicting high speed movements. Even aizen doesn't move in flash step 24*7..If he covers himself with susano, he should be able to counter aizen effectively.. A meteor strike, and his perfect susano attacks should be able to get through.. Can he use sealing? I don't remember that one, though, if he can he should be able to win this fight.. Because as far as I know, Madara hasn't use any sealing Jutsus, and if aizen can, he could seal him away..

One more thing, if Madara uses his wood clone, Aizen is in quite much of trouble. How is he going to fight with 25 madaras at a time?

@jeanroygrant said:

Madara looks he dies.

Amaterasu

Burn

You do realize Aizen is immortal right? and Madara is not K.Oing him nor is he going to make him surrender, Aizen even when defeated was fighting back.