Sonic vs flash and superman

Archie sonic vs Wally west and Clark Kent

No speed steal

No reality warping no BFR

No planet destroying

no flying

Super sonic with chaos emeralds

Pre new 52

Standard gear

Sonic would still get blitzed IMHO

Archie Sonic? Isn't the dude a multiverse buster or some crap like that?

Archie Sonic -_-

Universe buster. Archie Sonic has faster than light combat speeds, instantaneous faster than light flight speeds, invulnerability to all harm, has hit objects out of orbit, can exist in space without the need of oxygen and such, and other ridiculous feats.

Archie Sonic mops the floor with both of them...

Wally West makes pre52 Clark redundant. Just saying

@thegrayghost: just adding some muscle

Team 2.

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Sonic...

Archie sonic will send them to the phantom zone.

It's Super Sonic that has those powers. Archie Sonic gets blitzed by Wally.

@awesomedude: lol it says "Archie Sonic" and "Super Sonic with the emeralds" the super form of Archie sonic is invulnerable to damage.

@what_diick: Then he gets speed stolen. Also, OP seems a bit biased here.

@awesomedude: this version if sonic has massive feats just with the red emerald he destroyed 2 moons with both index fingers

He regular form is so fast he beat up his shadow and ran so fast he traveled dimensions

@awesomedude: OP says no speed steal

i doubt it since wally is pretty broken

@datswampertazz: @cregan_stark: @what_diick: Okay, OP is pretty much biased here. Also, yhat's not a speed feat, blasting a moon is more of an energy projection feat.

Flash wins

@stormdriven said:

Flash wins

Don't get me wrong, the Flash is not a force to be reckoned with, however, Archie Super Sonic is completely invulnerable to all harm and attacks, there's not much the team can do.

@mysticmedivh: I thought it was obvious my post wasn't serious :/

@alakemega123: Pre-52 had no multiversal power level like Super Sonic does in the comic.

SUPERMAN

@allstarsuperman: no, sonic stomps

NO SUPERMAN IS ORIGINAL SUPERHERO THEREFORE HE UNMAKES SONIC FTL

@allstarsuperman: false. There so many people who own supes. You know who awesome beats him contrary to the biased his series has on this site.

Allstar here is acting. So far, you've fallen for his charade.

im not seeing bias...wally cant speed steal or BFR..you act like those are the only 2 moves in his VAST arsenal..

In some sagas Sonic already faced near omnipotent beings. Sonic one-shot Superman.

@detrolord said:

Yeah, I'm really not seeing the big deal here. Archie Sonic is impressive, no doubt about it. But honestly, breaking the barriers of reality is something Wally West does casually.

"Unimaginable raw energy erupts, literally bending Time and Space!"

That's nothing new to Wally. And he did it himself, he didn't need to collide with someone else to do it.

And, I have a beef with this:

I need to see feats of Archie Sonic:

1). Being a Universe Buster. Bending Time and Space doesn't qualify FYI, as Wally does that casually.

2). Having Reaction Speed Feats 500 times faster than the speed of light.

3). Showing Invulnerability to attacks with Infinite Mass behind them.

Then, after you do all that, MAYBE we'll have a worthwhile discussion here.

Jmarshmallow

How does Flash see where he's going if he's faster than light?

@mysticmedivh: .....

@gustofwind: Because the Speed Force speeds up his reaction time as well.

To him, it doesn't feel like he's going fast, it just feels like everyone around him stopped.

Jmarshmallow

Light speed combat speed, hitting objects out of orbit and being in space without the need of oxygen is what you call ridiculous feats?

@sirneko: Archie sonic is potentially as fast if not far faster than flash. So yeah i guess. Plus the chaos emeralds give him time and space manipulation.

Scans?

@sirneko: Uh for which?

Flash. Archie Sonic is overrated.

Being faster than Wally West.

Regular game Sonic can't even breathe in water, can't hit things out of orbit, or have FTL combat speeds. Game Super Sonic isn't capable of universe busting either. So yes, I find them ridiculous in game-terms.

Yes?

@stormdriven: Piccosecond I believe I could be wrong

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