Son Goku vs Naruto
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No chakara is just life force..it has nothing to do with stamina. I could get into exactly why people would say it wouldnt work but i'd rather not. And as i've said there isnt a single person in the naruto universe who can possibly compare to ki levels of even the lowest z fighters. There isnt one person in the naruto universe with enough chakara to destroy a moon. Which means that anyone above roshi and can control ki well isnt getting genjutsued@lets_jam: I know the difference between ki and chakra, chakra is a combination of stamina and lifeforce ki is life force. Every living person has stamina and live force, I just don't get why anyone would ever argue that genjutsu doesn't work outside of the NarutoU because saying they're the only ones that have chakra is totally ridiculous. And it would take raising both their ki and their stamina levels to break it and that depends on how strong it is.
No it isn't read about it. Chakra is a combination of stamina and life force. It even says it on the wiki, they draw on their chakra by using hand signs.@cascadeking09 said:
No chakara is just life force..it has nothing to do with stamina. I could get into exactly why people would say it wouldnt work but i'd rather not. And as i've said there isnt a single person in the naruto universe who can possibly compare to ki levels of even the lowest z fighters. There isnt one person in the naruto universe with enough ki to destroy a moon. Which means that anyone above roshi and can control ki well isnt getting genjutsued@lets_jam: I know the difference between ki and chakra, chakra is a combination of stamina and lifeforce ki is life force. Every living person has stamina and live force, I just don't get why anyone would ever argue that genjutsu doesn't work outside of the NarutoU because saying they're the only ones that have chakra is totally ridiculous. And it would take raising both their ki and their stamina levels to break it and that depends on how strong it is.
Here is the description of chakra: Chakra is essential to even the most basic jutsu; it is a mixture of the physical energy present in every cell of the body and the spiritual energy gained from exercise and experience. Once mixed it can be channelled through the chakra circulatory system. Chakra can be manipulated through various methods, hand seals are the most common.
@cascadeking09: "the body energy that is in millions of your cells" that sounds like stamina to you? Of course it does...yeah i'm not wasting my time with this. goku stomps have a nice dayIn the anime it's translated to say stamina because body energy makes no sense, that's what it means the physical part, but here you are arguing with me about something just to argue. Obviouly ki isn't spiritual energy mixed with body energy. It says "physical energy" in that quote you can argue all day about whether or nor it's stamina, but that isn't what we were originally talking about. Love how you distracted from my point though.
The anime isnt canon..nor do i care what the dubbers and or translators decided to change a word into. Who brought this stamina crap up in the first place? Oh yes you did. Who decided to go and post two scans that didnt show any mention of stamina being apart of chakara without being asked to.....you again. Sounds to me that you're the one trying to argue to argue...which is nothing new for you. You shifted this argument to stamina...not me..the very least you could have done was actually have proof of what you were saying instead of going seee....seeee body energy is clearly talking about stamina....which clearly..it did not. You made a very false claim and were told you were wrong..no one told you to post scans no one told you to keep trying keep this argument going. Every time i try and give you the benefit of the doubt...you make me regret it. I honesty dont know why you like to do this..just waste peoples time arguing to argue...but im over it. I'm officially done with you on these forums after this post.. The point? You had no point..which is a recurring theme for you. You made a claim about genjutsu and said ki = chakara..too which i responded with if that were true then all it would take to break genjutsu is a higher chakara and or ki level.....and no one in naruto had a higher ki/chakara level than someones as low in the dbz food chain as master roshi..that should have been the end of the discussion...but no. chakara is stamina plus blah blah blah watch me post scans that make no mention of stamina blah blah blah......yeah you're just....we're done cascade. When i see you post in the future i'll act like i dont even see you, and i hope you will do the same.@lets_jam said:
In the anime it's translated to say stamina because body energy makes no sense, that's what it means the physical part, but here you are arguing with me about something just to argue. Obviouly ki isn't spiritual energy mixed with body energy. It says "physical energy" in that quote you can argue all day about whether or nor it's stamina, but that isn't what we were originally talking about. Love how you distracted from my point though.@cascadeking09: "the body energy that is in millions of your cells" that sounds like stamina to you? Of course it does...yeah i'm not wasting my time with this. goku stomps have a nice day
Goku stomps have a nice day
Kid Goku was already faster than lightning. No way Naruto can even land a hit, he's barely supersonic.
"NarutoU is blood lusted they rush him and he either gets trapped in genjutusu" - cascadeking09
"Lol you mind telling me why? Don't bother if it includes characters outside of Naruto don't have chakra. Chakra is just stamina and lifeforce. Genjutsu works on anybody that has eyes and isn't blind." - cascadeking09
Now after repeatedly comparing ki to chakara and trying to say theyre the same thing..and that genjustusu will work on dbz characters because everyone has chakara/ki...cascade shifts his argument to....
"the main point which was ki =/= chakra"
=/= means does not equal for you math challenged folks out there.
And that is why cascade is in fact a waste of time debating
by the way
"Genjutsu - Genjutsu is created when a ninja extends their chakra flow through the cerebral nervous system of their opponent to control their mind's chakra"
so now that cascade is saying chakra does not equal ki...even tho he spent many posts saying they were the same thing..he can now stop wasting peoples time with genjutsu this and that because genjutsu effects chakra..and dbz characters dont have chakra because by cascades own words...ki =/= chakra
and yes pointing out the fact that cascade spent most of his time in this thread saying ki and chakara are the same and thus moves like genjutsu should work on people outside of the naruto verse...and then suddenly maintaining the fact that he made no such claim even after being quoted 4 times and then suddenly saying oh no chakra doesnt = ki...also means i was baiting him. I mean that totally makes sense it's not like he was in here babbling about a move that specifically effects chakara and nothing else and how it can be used on people he know claims doesnt have it...oh wait.
But yes pointing out someones inconsistencies, hypocrisy, and false allegations = baiting I'll have to remember that in the future.
@cascadeking09: Stop responding to him. The discussion between you two is getting nowhere, and he's just trying bait you.Alright.
@Static Shock: yes pointing out the fact that cascade is the one who changed the subject of the topic while he complained about people changing the subject = i'm baiting him and yes pointing out the fact that cascade spent most of his time in this thread saying ki and chakara are the same and thus moves like genjutsu should work on people outside of the naruto verse...and then suddenly maintaining the fact that he made no such claim even after being quoted 4 times and then suddenly saying oh no chakra doesnt = ki...also means i was baiting him. I mean that totally makes sense it's not like he was in here babbling about a move that specifically effects chakara and nothing else and how it can be used on people he know claims doesnt have it...oh wait. But yes pointing out someones inconsistencies, hypocrisy, and false allegations = baiting I'll have to remember that in the future.Do me a favor and just drop the subject. It's over.
Even though in Battlestadium D.O.N. the characters of Dragon Ball, One Piece, and Naruto were duking it out, as well as other crossover games, I'm sure the answer was something along the lines of "Shenron's doing". Seeing as the greatest feat so far in Naruto is Pain destroying a city in one hit, and Naruto, Madara, Sasuke, Kabuto probably, B, 4th Raikage, 5th Mizukage, 1st Hokage, and 2nd Hokage, as well as the Genryu and the Dragon Blade are stronger than Pain but not by more than, say, 10 to no more than 100 times, including Ten Tail, since Jiraiya was considered strong, I would say in terms of power level, the strongest Naruto character has a power level of less than 1, because a full powered Master Roshi with a power level of like 160 destroyed the moon. So in power, no one compares with Dragon Ball.
Goku, he has speed advantage, power advantage, is that season 1 Naruto or season 2 ?
if it's season 1, Goku stomp
if it's season 2 (current Naruto) Goku after a good fight.
it would be a good try from goku, but naruto can smack son-goku any day, goku doesnt really have a speed advantage if naruto is on demon fox mode, and the demon fox is stronger than son goku, the kamehameha is useless because his kyubbi can absorb it and just make himself stronger.
My point is in the end, naruto wins.
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