Bats would see right through the OctoSuit
The MK II wont help Snake either
Stealth Master? Hes good but Bats is a true stealth master
Bats could be butt naked and still win this
Solid Snake vs. Batman
"Bats would see right through the OctoSuitWith a seeker missile, Snake could be out of Batman's sight range and bombard him, while the MK2 is dancing around like a maniac and Bruce is going "wtf?".
The MK II wont help Snake either
Stealth Master? Hes good but Bats is a true stealth master
Bats could be butt naked and still win this"
With all his gear, he could set C4 or Claymores all over the place and Bruce could do very little since he doesn't have anything to disarm them with. And if he did try to disarm them normally, Snake would then blow them up.
He could just take a high spot or be far away and take out his sniper rifle.
If Batman had his suit and belt, I would say he would win against Snake with all his gear, but without any of it.....he would get stomped.
He doesnt need his gear
Missles and Robots arent anything he has dealth with before
Snake would only give him trouble if hes a good distance away
Once Bruce gets close its all over for Snake
"He doesnt need his gearWhich wouldn't happen if Snake has mines, grenades, machine guns, etc. Bruce would be forced to keep his distance, at which point he either explodes or gets sniped.
Missles and Robots arent anything he has dealth with before
Snake would only give him trouble if hes a good distance away
Once Bruce gets close its all over for Snake
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He could slowly make his way toward Snake
Bats is too fast, too smart, and is a true master of stealth
Snake wouldnt see him coming and when Bruce got close
1 hit and snake is gone
"He could slowly make his way toward SnakeHow will he even know where Snake is? And even if he does.....and Snake is staying still.....and he gets through all of the traps and obstacles that would be laid for him, and the rockets that Snake would be firing around to recon with, he would be moving slow. And, assuming Snake sees him (with the sniper rifle he has, or the previously mentioned rockets), he dies.
Bats is too fast, too smart, and is a true master of stealth
Snake wouldnt see him coming and when Bruce got close
1 hit and snake is gone"
Again hes going to notice a guy shooting at him
Anything Snake can bring to the table, Bats has already dealt with 1000's of times before
Snipers? Hes dealt with DeadShot whos 100x better sniper then any mgs character even sniper wolf
Rockets? Come on
Machine guns? Yes because no one has ever shot at Bats before with a gun : /
There isnt anything Snake can do that Bats hasnt dealt with before
"Again hes going to notice a guy shooting at himHas Batman dealt with any of those things while totally naked, without any protection from his suit, and no gadgets?
Anything Snake can bring to the table, Bats has already dealt with 1000's of times before
Snipers? Hes dealt with DeadShot whos 100x better sniper then any mgs character even sniper wolf
Rockets? Come on
Machine guns? Yes because no one has ever shot at Bats before with a gun : /
There isnt anything Snake can do that Bats hasnt dealt with before"
With a sniper rifle, Snake shouldn't miss. He's a pretty good marksman, he wouldn't have to use two bullets to kill Batman with a sniper rifle.
You're not grasping the point of the machine gun. The point is if you've got someone who knows how to use a gun (and has good accuracy and whatnot) and can also fight (Snake took down Grey Fox in hand-to-hand, who, for all accounts and purposes, is far beyond human), and he's blasting at Bats, Bruce isn't going to rush him cause he will take rounds to the chest. He'll back away. Snake's not as weak physically as you think. Even in the original PS1 MGS, he dodged tank shells. He could easily move to another location to assess what's going on.
How is he going to deal with the mines? While he's dealing with the mines, what about rockets? While he's dealing with the mines and rockets, what about grenades, or a sniper shooting at him? Batman won't know where he is, while Snake will be able to spot him easily since he's naked (and Batman will have trouble spotting him from a distance because of the camo). There's too much for Bruce to deal with here, IMO.
Heres the thing
Snake isnt a great marksman hes ok but him and sniper wolf had to rely on pills to keep their nerves steady
DeadShot is a great marksman probably the best in DCU
Snake fighting Fox h2h was complete crap
And even Kojima stated that Fox lowered his abilities to snakes level so they can have a fair h2h fight
Dont you find it funny how Fox was able to hold up Rexes leg for a minute :/
I didnt say he was going to rush him
He was going to work his way toward Snake
Snake wouldnt know where he is coming from because Bruce is a true stealth master
"Heres the thingCna you give me a source on that Kojima statement? I've never heard of that, but I'd definitely believe it if I saw it.
Snake isnt a great marksman hes ok but him and sniper wolf had to rely on pills to keep their nerves steady
DeadShot is a great marksman probably the best in DCU
Snake fighting Fox h2h was complete crap
And even Kojima stated that Fox lowered his abilities to snakes level so they can have a fair h2h fight
Dont you find it funny how Fox was able to hold up Rexes leg for a minute :/
I didnt say he was going to rush him
He was going to work his way toward Snake
Snake wouldnt know where he is coming from because Bruce is a true stealth master
"
Snake isn't as good a marksman, but he's at least army sniper level. Anyone that good could take out a unsuspecting target.
But here's the thing about Batman being a stealth master-he's naked. It would make him so much easier to spot while he's like that. Snake's a stealth master as well (I think he's just as good as Batman), and with his camo, that puts it over the top. Batman simply wouldn't know where Snake was and would have trouble spotting him, while Snake would easily be able to see him.
Of course, this is assuming a few things (such as an environment, whether or not they start a few metres apart or a ways away, etc.).
I've got to go. I might continue this tomorrow.
Despite the Nude comment
Batman wins with relative ease
Snake cant even give him a decent fight not even close
Stealth? Bats is the truth stealth master
Snake is a chump
CQC? Bats would humiliate Snake in h2h combat in fact most dcu and mu h2h fighters would leave snake a whimpering mess
Snake is doomed
this fight ends in about 10 seconds and thats if bats is having a bad day
"Savage Dragon said:He cant beat everyone"LOLOL I love the enthusiasm"Batman will whoop this shi+ out of Snake! He'll beat anyone!
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But he would destroy snake with little effort
"Nitric said:"Savage Dragon said:He cant beat everyone"LOLOL I love the enthusiasm"Batman will whoop this shi+ out of Snake! He'll beat anyone!
"
But he would destroy snake with little effort"
Ehh, I agree that he can't beat everyone. Let alone most.
But I disagree. Even if he could take Snake, it would be with ALOT of effort.
"HalJordan1986x said:No actually it wouldnt take any effort"Nitric said:"Savage Dragon said:He cant beat everyone"LOLOL I love the enthusiasm"Batman will whoop this shi+ out of Snake! He'll beat anyone!
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But he would destroy snake with little effort"
Ehh, I agree that he can't beat everyone. Let alone most.
But I disagree. Even if he could take Snake, it would be with ALOT of effort."
He is leagues stronger faster tougher a far superior h2h fighter and is a true master of stealth
Snake doesnt have prayer
Bats ends the fight in under 10 seconds and this is from someone who owns and has beaten all mgs games
Wow man. No.
just plain no.
I would NEVER say that he's leagues faster or stronger.. If faster or stronger at all.
Snake is a master fighter, and I'd say a better master of stealth
I'm not saying he wins. I actually probably side with Batman for once. But this is not even close to being easy on Batman's part. That's one of the worst things I've heard on this entire site.
"Wow man. No.No Man
just plain no.
I would NEVER say that he's leagues faster or stronger.. If faster or stronger at all.
Snake is a master fighter, and I'd say a better master of stealth
I'm not saying he wins. I actually probably side with Batman for once. But this is not even close to being easy on Batman's part. That's one of the worst things I've heard on this entire site."
No
Bats has held up a 1000lb ceiling and has been able to disable beings like Killer Croc and Grundy with pressure points
Faster? He was able to blitz Kyle rayner and steal his GL RING
Snake is a master fighter? No..he knows some watered down CQC in which he is able to disarm and incapacitate normal human beings
Bats has fought WW and Aqua man in h2h combat
stealth? again snake can hide from humans
bats hid from an army of white martians
snake is so out classed its not even funny
Bats wins this with minimal effort and thats coming from someone whos owned and beaten all of the primary mgs games
"Nitric said:That minimal effort part is what I can't agree with. Everything else, possibly. Minimal effort. Hell no."Wow man. No.No Man
just plain no.
I would NEVER say that he's leagues faster or stronger.. If faster or stronger at all.
Snake is a master fighter, and I'd say a better master of stealth
I'm not saying he wins. I actually probably side with Batman for once. But this is not even close to being easy on Batman's part. That's one of the worst things I've heard on this entire site."
No
Bats has held up a 1000lb ceiling and has been able to disable beings like Killer Croc and Grundy with pressure points
Faster? He was able to blitz Kyle rayner and steal his GL RING
Snake is a master fighter? No..he knows some watered down CQC in which he is able to disarm and incapacitate normal human beings
Bats has fought WW and Aqua man in h2h combat
stealth? again snake can hide from humans
bats hid from an army of white martians
snake is so out classed its not even funny
Bats wins this with minimal effort and thats coming from someone whos owned and beaten all of the primary mgs games"
No every attribute is a fact
Snake is out classed in everything from physical attributes to skill and intellect
Snake gets taken on in about 10 seconds
Effort? Bats will put in effort when he fights super powered beings
Not someone who hides in a box from dumba$$ guards who cant see outside of their cone of vision : /
"This could go either way if snake tries a head on attack he gets screwed over but if he plays it smart he can win.No
"
Snake loses no matter what happens
This is from someone who owns and has beaten all MGS games
Snake loses this and he loses badly
"Shonen said:Again you ain't the only one. I say snake has a chance at winning this again it's my opinion but if you have no respect for people by all mean respond."This could go either way if snake tries a head on attack he gets screwed over but if he plays it smart he can win.No
"
Snake loses no matter what happens
This is from someone who owns and has beaten all MGS games
Snake loses this and he loses badly"
You seem to have a bad attitude for wanting everyone to conform to your view and to have a one minded thread with everyone giving back the same opinion as you.
Here are some of snake's feats
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REQAH2VoCOE&feature=related (battle with ninja)
ninja fight second round
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGwI7koYHww
bullet-time reaction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrfwia92kBo
At about 51 seconds, after meryl is owned, snake appears to dodge a bullet. Review for yourself. Let's have someone who's unbiased make the call on this, however.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45dZLYkuub4
"HalJordan1986x said:Snake stands no chance of winning and would only survive because Batman doesnt kill"Shonen said:Again you ain't the only one. I say snake has a chance at winning this again it's my opinion but if you have no respect for people by all mean respond."This could go either way if snake tries a head on attack he gets screwed over but if he plays it smart he can win.No
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Snake loses no matter what happens
This is from someone who owns and has beaten all MGS games
Snake loses this and he loses badly"
"
Superior stealth, h2h fighting, intellect, physical attributes and equipment
Batman ends the fight in about 10 seconds
"until i see batman beat a guy who can do this then we'll talkThe reason Snake was able to fight Grey Fox was because he lowered his attributes to Snakes level so it could be a fair fight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udUQ8U1STQQ"
Last I checked Bats defeated Grundy who can fight Superman with pressure points and has beaten Aqua Man in hand to hand combat
No matter how you look at it
Snake loses this fight badly
"Shonen said:very well"until i see batman beat a guy who can do this then we'll talkThe reason Snake was able to fight Grey Fox was because he lowered his attributes to Snakes level so it could be a fair fight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udUQ8U1STQQ"
Last I checked Bats defeated Grundy who can fight Superman with pressure points and has beaten Aqua Man in hand to hand combat
No matter how you look at it
Snake loses this fight badly"
" @erik: why god why?!? "The Static Shock vs Human Torch thread was derailed because someone wanted to debate this fight. So I bumped the thread for it.
Snake is confirmed to be metahuman; his strength, speed, and agility are all greater than Batman's by a good bit, especially striking strength and combat speed. He's bullet timed numerous times from several great marksman (Meryl, Olga, Ocelot), escaped the blast radius of a tank shell after it was fired, and was capable of seeing and reacting to a hypersonic blasts in his old age from Crying Wolf, not to mention successfully evadingnumerousblasts from Fortune's Rail Gun in a tight space for several hours while in his prime (I don't think Batman has mach reflexes). Perhaps most impressively is how he can avoid turret fire from an army of Gekkos simultaneously while taking them all down with the same Rail Gun, effectively absorbing several tons of force into his arms without a stutter. Going with that, Snake has caught a full grown woman falling from several stories up with his bare hands, and has lifted a jeep to free himself and Meryl from underneath it.
Those are good examples of what a genetically engineered super soldier can do, but what really clinches it for Snake is his abundance in actual combat-oriented feats.
Snake's fists do more damage to Liquid than several RPGs did
A fight with Solid Snake has the Cyborg Ninja on his knees gasping for breath
Both are highly commendable showings of skill as well. Liquid Snake was designed to be superior to his brother in every way, but despite an extreme physical disadvantage, not to mention suffering from severe fatigue, David's more advanced technique and higher experience allow him to defy the destiny they were both born to (nature vs nurture is a common theme in the series)
Gray Fox is of course a bullet-fast, 100 tonner. He's the only agent of FOXHOUND to ever earn the codename Fox in the organization's entire history, so he's basically equivalent to Ra's al Ghul in that department, yet Snake's instinct and skills of adaption shine through once again.
In combat speed, Old Snake has supersonic reaction time, and Young Snake takes a shit on Old Snake. He's taken down a whole enemy squad in the time it took Raiden to walk down a hall, cleared a room full of hostiles before Stillman could get out a single sentence, and even blitzed Meryl Silverburgh, who of course was dodging point blank Assault Rifle fire (Snake>>>gunfire)
His physical advantage is vast. Every hit inflicted will completely jar Batman, whereas in contrast, the detective will struggle to even injure Snake at all, who's taken hits from 100 tonners and survived a kick from Metal Gear RAY (the same kick destroyed the entire platform Snake was standing on, so Snake's face>>>iron and steel). Of course my favorite instance is when Snake dove 300 feet off of Arsenal Gear into the water below, out swam a giant robot, placed a tracker on his brother, swam through 20 miles of ocean and sprinted several more all the way to Federal Hall without even being out of breath, all in the time it took Raiden just to beat Solidus. For the record, the average human can't dive more than 90 feet without breaking bone. Stamina, durability - and definitely pain tolerance, all go in Snake's court.
Now, all that said, people still like to claim Batman can win, for the sole sake of him knowing 127 different martial arts, as if that actually matters. CQC is a broad fighting style that focuses on disabling your opponent, and ending them quickly. It makes use of strikes, holds, grapples, and throws, utilizing the users superior strength to great effect. The only problem for Snake is, he very rarely ever fights anyone who he's actually stronger than. Now don't take that as a diss on his strength, he's still the second/third strongest human being on his entire planet. It just so happens that, in his line of work, Snake's standard foe is a supernatural monster or robot. In his world, Snake's combat talents literally qualify as a superhuman power. Batman can't beat people like Gray Fox or Vamp, yet Snake has stomped them both.
I knew the latest post was NickZ just by the length.
ikr
Who's Solid Snake?
I don't know, but his name sounds like he's a male stripper.
@tparks: lame af
Who's Solid Snake?
I don't know, but his name sounds like he's a male stripper.
Sounds like a bowel movement tbh
I knew the latest post was NickZ just by the length.
ikr
This. Even Kojima probably doesn't think Snake is as strong as Nick makes him out to be. LOL
Who's Solid Snake?
I don't know, but his name sounds like he's a male stripper.
Sounds like a bowel movement tbh
I knew the latest post was NickZ just by the length.
ikr
This. Even Kojima probably doesn't think Snake is as strong as Nick makes him out to be. LOL
We should call Z-force, there's already an Odin Force, Speed Force, Loeb Force, Chew Force and Yat Force, lets coin this sh*t
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