#1 Edited by dewboy01 (1876 posts) - - Show Bio

Which J.R.R. tolkien's monsters win?

#2 Posted by N0tS0An0nym0us (907 posts) - - Show Bio

@dewboy01 said:

Which J.R.R. tolkien's monsters win?

Smaugs best feat was burning down a city and bulldozing through an army of Dwarves.

The Balrog has even less feats.

Not a good matchup

#3 Posted by Quartermaim (617 posts) - - Show Bio

@N0tS0An0nym0us said:

@dewboy01 said:

Which J.R.R. tolkien's monsters win?

Smaugs best feat was burning down a city and bulldozing through an army of Dwarves.

The Balrog has even less feats.

Not a good matchup

Therefore the 2 feat dragon takes it.

#4 Posted by Laurcus (1289 posts) - - Show Bio

@Quartermaim said:

@N0tS0An0nym0us said:

@dewboy01 said:

Which J.R.R. tolkien's monsters win?

Smaugs best feat was burning down a city and bulldozing through an army of Dwarves.

The Balrog has even less feats.

Not a good matchup

Therefore the 2 feat dragon takes it.

Depends on how you look at it. By lore, pretty sure the Balrog should win. Balrogs are ancient Maia, equivalent to lesser gods or archangels.

It's not anything I would ever argue for super hard, because LOTR in general has a huge lack of feats, but I believe if Tolkien were still alive today and you asked him that question he would tell you a Balrog would stomp Smaug.

#5 Posted by Outside_85 (7075 posts) - - Show Bio

Smaug should take this, while the Balrogs were the muscle of Morgoths armies, he did create dragons to be greater than them.

#6 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - - Show Bio

Smaug vs 1 balrog?

Smaug stomps in this case.

#7 Posted by guttridgeb (4831 posts) - - Show Bio

Smaug.

#8 Posted by Sethlol (1296 posts) - - Show Bio

Smaug was the original pimp.

No further questions.

#9 Posted by AtPhantom (14461 posts) - - Show Bio

@N0tS0An0nym0us said:

Smaugs best feat was burning down a city and bulldozing through an army of Dwarves.

You say that like it's not impressive.

Smaug would win. He's bigger than the Balrog and has a lot more tools at his disposal, and is likely immune to Balrog's fire.

@Laurcus said:

Depends on how you look at it. By lore, pretty sure the Balrog should win. Balrogs are ancient Maia, equivalent to lesser gods or archangels.

It's not anything I would ever argue for super hard, because LOTR in general has a huge lack of feats, but I believe if Tolkien were still alive today and you asked him that question he would tell you a Balrog would stomp Smaug.

Nope. In Silmarilion Morgoth deploys Balrogs as nothing but support units for Glaurung, the first dragon. There's no question that he considered dragons more worthy assets.

#10 Posted by Dextersinister (5081 posts) - - Show Bio

It was also mentioned that the fire of intelligent dragon's was powerful enough to destroy the ring.

#11 Posted by AtPhantom (14461 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dextersinister said:

It was also mentioned that the fire of intelligent dragon's was powerful enough to destroy the ring.

No, quite the opposite.

#12 Posted by czarny_samael666 (16629 posts) - - Show Bio
@AtPhantom said:

@Dextersinister said:

It was also mentioned that the fire of intelligent dragon's was powerful enough to destroy the ring.

No, quite the opposite.

You're sure? Somehow I always belive in opposite.
#13 Posted by TheMightyAvenger (1864 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dextersinister said:

It was also mentioned that the fire of intelligent dragon's was powerful enough to destroy the ring.

No, it was stated that not even the fire of Ancalagon The Black, the greatest of all dragons, could melt the One Ring only lesser Rings.

#14 Posted by Bo88gdan (4374 posts) - - Show Bio

How do you people think that Smaug can Defeat Balrog ?

#15 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (14189 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bo88gdan: You know, the regular way Dragons kill things? To be clear, I'm leaning towards Balrog..

#16 Posted by Bo88gdan (4374 posts) - - Show Bio

@PrinceAragorn1: how can fire hurt Balrog _

#17 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (14189 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bo88gdan: Dragons can bite, and swish tail around..

#18 Posted by Bo88gdan (4374 posts) - - Show Bio

@PrinceAragorn1: But Balrog is Shadow and fire how are bites gonn hurt him ?

#19 Posted by logy5000 (5525 posts) - - Show Bio

It took an army to beat Smaug.

It took a Wizard to beat the Balrog.

Smaug wins.

#20 Posted by Pokergeist (22303 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bo88gdan: I see why not. Gandalf steel sword hurt the Balrog lol. That was with no enchantments or power ups. Then he powered it up for the kill.

#21 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (14189 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bo88gdan: uh.. use haki?:

#22 Posted by Bo88gdan (4374 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2: Gandalf used a lot of magic to defeat balrog not just sword Swords with out magic cannot hurt Balrog

#23 Posted by Pokergeist (22303 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bo88gdan: Know the Sword was causing Balrog pain as well. The Magic was more effective but Sword Jabs seem to hit him like a solid being as well.

#24 Posted by LubeMan (1067 posts) - - Show Bio

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/smaug-vs-durins-bane/741626/