Smaug runs a gauntlet .

1 : Gollum

2 : Gimli

3 : Aragorn

4 : Legolas with the black arrow

5 : Thorin

6 : All the hobbits .

7 : The 13 dwarves

8 : Gandalf and Saruman

9 : Gandalf , saruman , elrond and lady Galadriel

10 : 1000 orcs , 1000 elves , 1000 spartans .

11 : 10 oliphuants

12 : 10000 Trolls

13 : 10000 Ents

14 : Sauron

15 : A stone giant

Everyone has standard equipment .

Smaug will be at his best

He will be healed after each fight

Win by KO or Death

Movie versions

Battle takes place in Isengard .

Smaug won't be missing his scale from round 8 onwards .

Smaug starts 10 Miles from his opponents .

No-One? :'(

@theamazingbatman: Stops at 8, Gandlaf stomps.

@theamazingbatman: What's the setting? Starting distance? At his best, does that mean there's no scale missing from his hide?

I'll just say he stops at 9 or 10 for now.

Read the OP , I edited it .

Smourg clears

@theamazingbatman: Gotcha. Answer is still the same though. Lol

Legolas could kill him if he knows about the weakness.

He knows about it .

Yup. Even if this gauntlet is out of order, I'm giving it to Legolas and anyone who knows about Smaug's weakness & has adept marksmanship with mad skillz or significant prowess.

All of whom who don't know about it, will get curbed, eaten or incinerated.

i wanna say rock giant but its just sooo slow... can smaug hurt it tho?

Hmmm....I read this and thought the same thing....e.g only #4 is a viable option....Legolas with the Black arrow (and a clear shot) is the only serious threat on this list in my eyes

Stops at Legolas for sure

What are Galadriel's feats? I'd love to know

Stops at Legolas. Don't get why Legolas didn't shoot the ring into Mordor.

Stops at 4. Why is Thorin above legolas?

Gandalf clears

Eh, probably at 9. Galadriel is a beast.

@phylos: She is the strongest elf remaining by far, and she is said to be the equal of Feanor back in the first age making her one of the strongest elves to ever exist. She also destroys Dol Guldor tearing it down with her magic (Utterly destroyed it). Using the Nenya, (The ring of water) she pushed back three assaults by the Orcs which was something only Sauron, himself, could have gotten through. She is quite powerful.

probably 9 since he will be up against 2 ring users.

@primebonnick: All three ring users would be present. Gandalf with Fire. Galadriel with Water. Elrond with Wind.

@wut: I thought Glorfindel was the mightiest elf, but I could be wrong. From your opinion, do you think he compares to Galadriel?

@wut: gandalf got one of the elven rings? been so long since i read the books i forgot.

@zaluk: Nah, Glorfindel isn't the mightiest elf. He is one of the mightiest left in the Third Age, but not the mightiest.

That would depend really, do you mean how strong is he compared to Galadriel in regards to the Third Age? Cause he is weaker then Galadriel who is the mightiest elf left, Elrond would be second thanks to the ring, then I would place Glorfindel right after Elrond (only if Elrond has the Ring of Air though), so he would place second or third if we are talking about the Third Age.

@primebonnick: Yep, it was how he was able to easily resist the Balrog attacks as he has the ring of fire.

@wut: ok thanks been so long i always forget those details.

tops at 1.

Smaug may stop at 4 is Legolas can land the shot, which he should be able to.

If not Smaug stops hard at 9. Lady Galadriel may solo.

LOL :P MY PRECIOUSSSS! :P

Really ?? Galadriel can solo? Then why didn't she??

@theamazingbatman: That was my thought exactly LOL XD in all seriousness i do believe he Sauron or the Stone Giant, only because i dont think his fire could hurt the giant honestly. I'm more than welcome to or see feats that state otherwise from people. Although i do believe he did burn metal so.... Eh possibly Sauron then.

stops at 8, if gandalf goes all out he should solo

If he was able to , he would not have asked for bilbo's help .

Dragon fires were very hot . They were hot enough to melt all the rings of power except the one ring , so I think it can hurt the stone giant and btw I think that smaug can physically hurt them too . He destroyed the gate of the lonely mountain (which was pure thick stone) effortlessly .

That sounds really impressive, now who to match her against in the battle forums. Thank you for the information though.

@theamazingbatman: True, as well.

I was going to create it , but I remembered reading that gandalf>galadriel and gandalf alone was far weaker than smaug , so I didn't create the thread .

This gauntlet is out of order. Legolas and Gollum take him out, and he destroys the rest.

Gollum Solos . He is the ultimate hero , he is the one who actually saved middle-earth , not Frodo , as he would not have thrown the one ring . And Gollum sacrificed himself to rid the world of sauron and the ring and ultimately saved everyone . Gollum was the main character in LOTR :P And in the books , gollum was so formidable that Eru himself intervened to kill him :P

@theamazingbatman: Gandalf is not permited to interfere in arda that way, only to some extent and depending who he faces, like the balrog for example as he is a maia just like him

I know , in his mortal form Gandalf<<<Smaug .

@theamazingbatman: well yea I can agree to that

Cirdan is probably in the conversation as well.

@leito: It's certainly debatable whether Cirdan is more wise, but Tolkien wrote that the strongest elf ever was Feanor and only Galadriel was his equal. As for Elrond and Glorfindel, I would place Glorfindel above Elrond, because he slew a Balrog and drove off the nazgul.

I do think that Elrond is, overall, more powerful than Glorfindel (but maybe not in a straight up fight). In Rivendell, Glorfindel is clearly Elrond's inferior, Elrond is of higher lineage (son of Earendil !) and was Gil-Galad's second in command during the War of the Last Alliance whereas Glorfindel is "only" a badass Noldor warrior.

By the way, is it certain that Third Age Glorfindel is the same character as First Age Glorfindel ? It makes more sense if they only share the same name (which is not uncommon in Tolkien's world).

Regarding Galadriel, she definitely is the mightiest elf of the Third Age and the strongest "good guy" (as you say, generally considered equal to Feanor and "superior to him in many ways"), unless you count Tom Bombadil as a good guy.

My Third Age list would probably be :

Galadriel

Elrond

Cirdan

Glorfindel

Celeborn

and then, in no particular order, Thranduil, Erestor...

In a fight, I guess the first 5 could kill Smaug. Gandalf and Saruman too. I believe that even Aragorn, with Anduril, wold have a shot.

Bear in mind that Scatha the Worm, another Dragon from the North, was slain by Fram, an Eotheod, in single combat.

@leito: First age and third age glorfindel are the same, it's been confirmed. I respect your opinion regarding Glorfindel and Elrond, but I do disagree :) It's rumored that Glorfindel could be a son of Finarfin, but this was never confirmed. Elves pwnz all.

@leito: Cirdan was very wise, incredibly so, but I cannot recall any true feats for him besides speculation. He certainly should be one of the strongest remaining elves in the Third Age, but I can't really put him above Glorfindel who does have combat feats. Elrond gets there because he has one of the rings which Cirdan used to have before giving away to Gandalf, and the Wind Ring was the strongest of the elfish rings.

Eh, the only way I could see aragon beating Smaug is through massive PIS. (Smaug was the last of the great dragons.) Worms are wingless dragons that are in the north, not quite the same as Smaug.

@zaluk: Eh, I am not overly fond of elves, and to be honest, the Noldor are probably the only Elves I respect because they are certainly not like most elves.

@wut: Yeah, I understand what you mean, Elves aren't always the nicest people. I like them for their combat prowess, especially the Noldor.

@zaluk: I just haven't ever been fond of Elves. I am a dwarf/orc person myself, but the Noldor, the barrel chested, bearded 'elves' they are, are quite awesome.

Legolas should be last. Otherwise atops at the wizards and elfs

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