Skilled team vs Physical team

Skilled team:

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• Batman
• Shang-chi
• Daredevil
• Taskmaster
• Lady Shiva
• Cassandra Cain
• Constantine Drakon
• Deathstroke

vs

Physical team:

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• Kraven
• Miles Morales
• Ult. Peter Parker
• Green Goblin(Norman)
• Bane
• Crossbones
• Daken
• Sabertooth

Round 1: Random encounter

Round 2: Both sides have 1 day of prep

Rules:

• Morals on.
• Standard gear.
• Pre-new 52 DC characters.
• Current marvel characters.
• Fight takes place here:

Who wins?

round 1: Team Two (The Brutes)

round 2: Team One (The Smarts)

Daken and Sabretooth are the biggest threats, and assuming full knowledge Batman could whip up a healing factor negating serum and he already has tech to negate pheromones. Team 1 handily.

@jashro44@wolverine08@granitesoldier@strider92@laflux@dondave@reaverlation

Team 2 in both rounds, round one is really one sided though

why Crossbones isn't with the skill team?...Cap has some great rogues man

anyway both rounds skill..Deathstroke probably should be with Brutes as he's like an evil Cap. While normally I feel Cap/Slade are just absolute peak humans, Slade has a healing factor that Steve doesn't. He is also a team buster with his physicality and skill. The rest are close enough to that level to make it a win in a random encounter

round two. Batman

Bane is more than a brute. He's demo started to be near Batmans level of skill numerous times. Not as skilled, but he's more than a brute. Especially considering how patient and calculating he is.

Anyway round 1 should go to team 2, round 2 should narrowly go to team 1. Other than Kraven and Bane there's no notable prep for the second team. However some of their heavy hitters like Sabertooth and Ult Green Goblin will be hard to take down with only one day of preparation.

What @juiceboks said

@granitesoldier:

Bane is more than a brute. He's demo started to be near Batmans level of skill numerous times. Not as skilled, but he's more than a brute. Especially considering how patient and calculating he is.

I know, but he does tend to use his physicals to gain advantages in his fights, and he's not really as skilled as anyone from team 1. I also put him in because I was a bit afraid I made team 2 a little too powerful.

Team one got this. Deathstroke should be removed from the team..

Why is Deathstroke on skill team? he has the strength of 10 men.

Round 1: Team 2.

Round 2: Team 1.

I'm glad to see Wolverine and Spider-Man absent for a change.

That would still make him physically inferior to anyone on the physical team bar possibly Bane. His skill is much more important in a fight.

Skilled

@highaccuser: Daken and crossbones are not above Deathstroke in strength.

But in overall stats they are.

- Round 1: Team 1 curbstomps

- Round 2: Team 1 "just" stomps

Don't joke, D.S and C. Drakon together, could solo round 1.

I doubt anyone on team 2 is even fast enough to keep up with Drakon's speed...D.S with standard gear...+ Cassandra Cain, Lady Shiva, Batman, Daredevil and Taskmaster?...Curbstomp!

It's not a stomp. Several people on team 2 are faster than Drakon or are too durable for the trio you listed to handle easily without gear.

Team one can win, but the victor will not be doing any stompage.

?...Cassandra Cain and Batman have feats, that makes you doubt of thei're "peak-human limitations"...Drakon makes them look like turtles.

i said stomp on Round 2, but on a second thought, it may not be, since Peter Parker, and Bane are on team 2...but Round 1 its a stomp/curbstomp.

@bat_girl_cc:

?...Cassandra Cain and Batman have feats, that makes you doubt of thei're "peak-human limitations"...Drakon makes them look like turtles.

And team 2 has legit Superhumans who pull combat speed feats on Spider-Man, who's faster than all of the above mentioned characters.

i said stomp on Round 2, but on a second thought, it may not be, since Peter Parker, and Bane are on team 2...but Round 1 its a stomp/curbstomp.

There's no stomping against people that physically powerful.

Skilled team

LOL, i missed Miles there (AKA spider-man junior)...xD you're right, it's not a stomp, but team 1 takes a solid majority though.

Ult. Peter Parker is inferior to the classic Spider-Man version, but he's still a big player for team 2 tho...and skill > strengh, any day...unless the difference is to big to overcome.

Team 1 still wins both rounds, but its closer now, mainly due to Miles.

I think team 1 wins, but its not a curbstomp

@bat_girl_cc: Miles isn't faster than Cain or Drakon and has only tagged a flu-ridden and confused Spider-Man. There are characters on team 1 that have done the same under fairer conditions.

Team 1 wins both Rounds, with Round 2 being much easier.

Jmarshmallow

Team 2 both rounds.

Kraven/Sabretooth/Daken's healing factor are going to really hard for Team 1 to overcome and there are 3 of them. Physically they are above anyone on Team 1, though DS is close.

Add in Green Gobin/Ultimate Pete and you have two 10 tonners. One who is as fast as and one who is way faster than anyone on your team. Miles is not far behind. GG's flight and distance attacks are another tough nut to crack. Then there are the webs that no on you team can break, except DS if he can swing his sword freely.

Bane/Kraven/Green Goblin are all fine preppers so round two is not going to that much harder than round 1.

I know that he's still a child, and he's basically a "Spider-Boy", but does he have many high-end speed feats tho?...if not, team 1 stomps.

Norman easily sways in to team two's favor in both rounds.

Skills.

@bat_girl_cc: Contrary to popular belief, he doesn't. Of the Spider-people I'd actually peg him as one of the slowest.

Skilled due to Deathstroke

Both of these, one day isn't enough prep to help IMO.

how is someone going to come p with a healing factor neagating serum? that's like saying someone can come up with an antiutility belt weapon.

team 2 both rounds. they have 2 spidermen, goblin, and bane. in the first round they over power them. spiderman, goblin, and bane are good preppers in their own right.

..the same way Black Panther did? Power dampening tech is not uncommon in both universes..

Team 1 with Taskmaster and Slade powering them through

I'm inclined to say skilled takes both rounds.

has anyone from team one made a healing factor negating serum?

I just want to clarify that I wasn’t referring to Miles when I noted team 2 had faster people than Drakon(I can’t comment on Miles since I don’t really know him well). I meant Sabertooth and Daken. Most of the others are probably slower though.

Batman has created an agent that neutralized the Venom in Bane and turned it lethal, an agent that neutralized the powers of Plastic Man's son, tech that disabled Bombshell's powers, tech that neutralized the psionic powers of the Eel(an Aquaman villian), and agents that have neutralized the effects of Poison Ivy's pheromones. It is perfectly within Batman's capabilities to develop tech that will cancel out healing factors given his track record against killing the powers of metas.

miles has the power of spiderman plus the venom sting. he has a superior spider sense to pete which i hate to admit. he is still vastly faaster than any street leveler. i don't know why people think he is slower. he was still able to tag pete. pete says he was sick. pete's worst day is far superior than anyone on the skills team.

@christianrapper: Lol, Miles isn't very fast. Tagging Spider-Man isn't very impressive. Almost every Marvel street leveler has done it.

And without the advantages of facing a confused and flu-ridden Peter..

they only have 24 hours. they will need to know the specifics of how there powers work among other stuff. that's not enough time to make any kind of serum like that.

Neutralizing pheremones is acting against an force in the air, not someones internal structure. Venom is blocking an external drug. Their healing factor is in their DNA. Carbonadium helps, of course it poisons and kills the user unless they have a healing factor. I don't even think Batman could get a blood sample for each of the 3 in 1 day, let alone create blocking agents.

Kraven and Goblin also have a day to develop stuff to get to Batman's many weaknesses. A much easier task.

Sabertooth and Daken are faster than Darkon??...based on?...i don't even think they are faster than Cassie, much less Drakon, who easly speed-blitzs fighters, with combat-speed comparable to Cassandra's.