Skeletor vs Worthy Juggernaut

Skeletor from the classic comics.

Kuurth with Cyttorak's power before Colossus took it.

Fight on the Titanic while it is sinking, no civilians come nearby.

Win by kill or incapacitate, no BFR.

Skeletor stomps

@vengerprofessional: Skeletor Is that strong ?

@kgb725: Yes he solo Justice League and most people know Skeletor from cartoon never read comic

So much BFR.... Skeletor would rape this match.

@sinntek1: Most people know Skeletor from Filmation and never read comic or watch new adventures if you interesting you can look this


http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/venger-and-wrath-amon-vs-emperor-palpatine-and-dar-1655688/

Oh I don't need to lol. I know enough about Skeletor to know he stomps this match-up.

Skeletor and unlike He Man, Jugs can be hurt by magic

@ninjawarrior268: Jugs is slow Skeletor cn teleport Jugs and Skeletor is much more versatile than Jugs

Finger beams and goodbye Jugs


if you interesting you can look this


http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/venger-and-wrath-amon-vs-emperor-palpatine-and-dar-1655688/

bone face in the comics is 1000% harder than cartoons,he wins

No battle field removal?

This is spite for Juggernaut.

@risingbean: Are you high? There no chances for Juggernaut op said Skeletor from clasic comic SKELETOR STOMPS

@risingbean: No battle field removal?

This is spite for Juggernaut.

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If you want to use links, use the link function so I can follow them. Also because I know you spam links, if you use them preemptively let me know what each link contains and how it ties into your point. And use only what ones you need because I don't have time to look at 30 links per time you post.

As far as I recall Skeletor didn't do much that would even bother Cain in those classic comics. Cain got his forcefield depowered by Thor's hammer and still went toe to toe with him. Cain held out and later lost only because Thor was able to BFR him into deep space.

Skeletor can't do much here. Cain will shrug off his physical based magical attacks and nail him. Skeletor won't be taking very much output from Cain before he's done. If BFR was on, I'd think Skeletor could win. But Juggernaut is a guy you need to BFR or wipe out mentally. Speaking of has Skeletor even mentally dominated anybody in those classic stories? Not that I recall.

Lastly, no I'm not high. I just happen to know what I'm talking about and don't let my biases dictate my answers on the battle forums.

@risingbean: You never read comic


he can send him in another dimension

Skeletor seriously hurt He/man and pushed He/man in coma

Skeletor one shot He/man
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Skeletor beat and kill powerful wizard Damon
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SKELETOR BEAT Goddess Teela
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Skeletor MULTIVERSAL ATTACK one shot Pre/crisic Superman
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Skeletor one shot Pre/crisic Superman AGAIN
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Skeletor one shot Pre/crisic Superman AGAIN
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SKELETOR MAGIC IS STRONGER THAN SUPERMAN HEAT VISION
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SKELETOR IS FASTER THAN PRE/CRISIC SUPERMAN
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Skeletor one shot Pre/crisic Superman AGAIN
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Skeletor one shot Superman AGAIN
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SKELETOR VS SUPERMAN
7:0 FOR SKELETOR

SKELETOR IS MUCH BIGGER threat FOR SUPERMAN THAN Doomsday AND Darkseid ,SKELETOR IS THE ONLY Villain Who wins EASY SUPERMAN

WITH SINGLE ATTACK.

Skeletor ripped holes in the multiverse.
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Skeletor conquering Eternia and Castle Grayskull and Sorceress of Castle Grayskull and banished He /man in exile

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Skeletor conquering Eternia and Castle Grayskull and Sorceress of Castle Grayskull AGAIN and absorb power of Grayskull.

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Skeletor now rules Eternia, with an ironed fist.Grayskull has fallen, the Power now rests within the hands of the Lord of Destruction! Dissenters are immediately arrested and taken to hellish prison camps! Children are taken from an early age, brainwashed to be Skeletors loyal troops! The people all around Eternia are starving!

Skeletor ruled in Eternia much years

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Skeletor humiliated He/man and He/man become Skeletor slave

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I'm not looking at the mass scans because 1. You didn't link them using the link function. I'm not manually wading into that spam. 2. You didn't give me detail on what each scan meant for the argument and 3, I said I didn't have time to look at a crap ton of scans in lieu of an debate.

Also you preface that spam with

Which is BFR! Battle Field Removal! The OP said

And with that having thought about it a bit more, both of them may sink. But Cain doesn't lose. Hell maybe I misread the OP myself. I missed Kuurth possessed Cain being the "Juggernaut" Meh. This whole thread is a wash. Skeletor drowns.

Worthy Juggernaut couldn't be BFR'd.

@risingbean: Hahahhaha Juggernaut can not even beat Spiderman he is that incompetent

Juggernaut can't touch Skeletor because Skeletor can teleport himself in seconds.

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I'm not looking at the mass scans because 1. You didn't link them using the link function. I'm not manually wading into that spam. 2. You didn't give me detail on what each scan meant for the argument

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Why you not open simply that link

Let see what we have here

1.Skeletor is smarter than Juggernaut

2.Skeletor is much more competent than Juggernaut

3.Skeletor is much more versatile than Juggernaut

4.Skeletor is faster than Juggernaut

5.Juggernaut can't touch Skeletor because Skeletor can teleport himself in seconds.

@vengerprofessional: You are aware Pete did everything in his power to drop Cain and failed. He got sunk in concrete and the rumor I hear is (but don't quote me because I don't have proof) is that sinking in concrete didn't even stop him. He just decided he was done fighting and walked away.

@noone301994: Skeletor from the classic comics.

Two He/man can not beat Skeletor when Skeletor absorb power power of Grayskull

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Two He/man can not beat Skeletor when Skeletor absorb power power of Grayskull Skeletor only lose beacuse source (Power of Grayskull ) was involved and kill Skeletor (He/man from present and He/man from future ) He/man can not beat Skeletor with his own power? Skeletor he is much more powerful than two He/man? Skeletor is much more tougher than He/man?How is that possible? Skeletor can handle two Heman and fight two He/man?Skeletor enslave Queen Marlena and King Randor in prisoner thirty year,Skeletor is much more competent than both Hordak and King Hiss,Overlord of evil is the most competent Villain in motu franchise ??????!!!!!!!Skeletor rules in Eternia thirty year

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Skeletor is that competent ?????!!!!

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How is that possible?Read comment

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Skeletor capture Sorceress of Castle Grayskull

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Man-At-Arms died in fight with Skeletor ,Skeletor kill Man-At-Arms ????

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Overlord of evil conquering Castle Grayskull

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Skeletor kills mother of Teela ( Sorceress of Castle Grayskull) and father ( Man-At-Arms )

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Skeletor push Teela in his limit

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Teela become Sorceress of Castle Grayskull because Skeletor push Teela to break the limit

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I never see that Hordak and King Hiss doing that ,Overlord of evil is much more competent than both Hordak and King Hiss

Castle Grayskull is gone forever .....in fight with He/man and Skeletor Castle Grayskull was destroyed.

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@sinntek1: What is your opinion for this battle some people think that Juggernaut can beat Skeletor.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA! That is the funniest thing I've read on here yet. Squirrel Girl has a better chance.

Skeletor (in the comics) was pretty much the equivalent of a Mr. Mxy type character, so anyone who thinks Juggernaut can take Skeletor is a moron, and I have no problem saying that. Do research if you legit think he would lose against Juggernaut.

I'll be honest though, I'm pretty much done with battle posts. Providing factual information / scans/ feats or information about any character who is not in the "official hive" mindset of who would win isn't going to win on this forum. It's a joke.

Juggernaut would get absolutely murder-stomped into BFR oblivion against Skeletor. This is worse than Thanos fighting Yajirobe.

@noone301994: That is new to me. Wow.

@sinntek1: Feats to back up that boldness?

Like what? Being a reality bender? Don't really need to back that up if you ever watched Heman or read the comic books.

Tanking a bunch of Street Levelers? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RnyQlrGKAPQ/UznnDO-PyCI/AAAAAAAAqjg/BGInoPEsD4k/s1600/skeletor.jpg Sure no problem.

Shooting lightning bolts in an instant? http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w366/Thrawn29/200x_icons_of_evil_trap_jaw_content_29_full.jpg Sure no problem. Not sure how fast Juggs is but he'd need to be moving at 224,000 mph to dodge a lightning bolt.

Soloing the Justice League? http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/10/DCVMU_Cv2_wiwu76ywt5_-300x433.jpg No problem.

I don't have many scans available at the moment, but I can surely keep looking for some if need be, but I think the one below is enough to suffice why Skeletor would stomp Juggs.

Skeletor stomped Superman, don't really see what Juggs is gonna do against him.

Didn't Skeletor struggle to hunt He-Man? I am sure Juggernaut stomps.

@sinntek1:

I'm running with the idea that the OP's "classic comics" are the mini comics released with the figures. If OP didn't mean those, he likely meant the Star comics imprint Marvel had out in the mid 80's.

So with that in mind, do you have feats, do you change your stance or are people still morons for thinking Skeletor doesn't have this in the bag?

Actually, if we are going by "classic comics" Skeletor was stronger in previous story-arcs excluding DC vs Master of The Universe.

So, no I do not take back what I stated.

In the original He-Man mini comics which were released after the Master of The Universe animated series, Skeletor was capable of dimension walking meaning he could jump from realm / dimension to realm / dimension.

This fight would be a bit closer though since it is specified that it is OG Skeletor and not New school Justice League soloer Skeletor. But Juggernaut would still lose based on Skeletor's TK abilities alone. At some point in the orignal comics Skeletor also obtained the powers of "Havoc Staff". Which gave him the ability to dream-walk as well. Not saying this would make much of an effect on Juggernaut unless Skeletor confronted him in his dreams.

"Havoc Staff, a long sceptre crowned with a ram's skull—sometimes depicted with an embedded crystal ball. He can discharge bolts of mystic force from the head of the Staff, or use it as a focus for more powerful forms of magic such as the theft of dreams."

OG Skeletor was no slouch when it comes to hand to hand combat however and at one point does get his hands on part of the "Power sword" which allowed him to amplify his magic as well as his physical strength. Overall strength wise, this would be AN AMAZING close fight but as far as destructive power, Skeletor has him beat.

@sinntek1: @risingbean:he thinks ( RisingBean ) that Hulk can beat Skeletor read please this

( RisingBean ) thinks that Hulk can beat Skeletor

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/hulk-vs-skeletor-560538/?page=3

RisingBean said I'd give it to Hulk. Skeletor is at worst a buffoon of the highest order, and at best a pretty decent combatant. Still think Hulk has the feats to win.



( RisingBean ) thinks that Hancock can beat Skeletor

( RisingBean ) said Classic toon Skeletor? Dude was his own worst enemy.

Hancock uses Beast Man's backside and Skeletor's head to terrible effect.

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Skeletor is worst is at worst a buffoon of the highest order?A what is the Hulk retard?And Skeletor is best a pretty decent combatant

,Skeletor is also one of the greatest H2H combatants on Eternia he can go easily in H2H against He/man.
The Skeletor from the newest He-Man cartoon is fast and skilled enough in martial arts, sword-fighting, and hand-to-hand combat, to deflect/dodge/intercept sword thrusts. Then Skeletor's massive strength advantage (someone capable of sword-fighting with He-Man must at least be Class 50, I'm thinking)

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Hancock will use east Man's backside and Skeletor's head to terrible effect.?Hahahhahaa what pathetic answer.Tell me why He/man never use Beast Man's backside and Skeletor's head to terrible effect.?

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@vengerprofessional - Hulk vs Skeletor would be a much close fight than Skeletor vs Juggs. But Skeletor would win that as well. He'd BFR both of them.

@elderskaar: Juggernaut can not even beat Spiderman in fight he is that incompetent

@sinntek1: Skeletor from classic comics

Skeletor one shot He/man

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Skeletor open gateways between dimensions

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Skeletor create monster

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Skeletor turn man in stone

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,Skeletor is also one of the greatest H2H combatants on Eternia he can go easily in H2H against He/man.

The Skeletor from the newest He-Man cartoon is fast and skilled enough in martial arts, sword-fighting, and hand-to-hand combat, to deflect/dodge/intercept sword thrusts. Then Skeletor's massive strength advantage (someone capable of sword-fighting with He-Man must at least be Class 50, I'm thinking)

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Read this please Hulk fanboy think that Hulk can beat Skeletor.I debunked Hulk fanboy in this tread

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When was that? That was for the sake of Spider-Man plot so fanboys won't cry that Juggs maul him into a ball. This is how Thing fared against Jugernaut.... Thing is 100 ton+

@elderskaar: Skeletor one shot He/man

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Skeletor turn man in stone

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,Skeletor is also one of the greatest H2H combatants on Eternia he can go easily in H2H against He/man.

The Skeletor from the newest He-Man cartoon is fast and skilled enough in martial arts, sword-fighting, and hand-to-hand combat, to deflect/dodge/intercept sword thrusts. Then Skeletor's massive strength advantage (someone capable of sword-fighting with He-Man must at least be Class 50, I'm thinking)

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@vengerprofessional Phew, I didnt even know about some of those.

@elderskaar: I think those scans are fan art.

@vengerprofessional: Like I said, I recall reading that Juggernaut simply left. Nothing Spidey did was winning him the fight. Even with Madame Web hurt and possibly dead and Pete going all out, Cain was shrugging off everything.

And 80's cartoon Skeletor was a loon. As was Shredder from the 1988 TMNT show. Both those guys were played for laughs. Skeletor had some decent feats with the 2002 series, but his men were so incompetent that it hurt to watch. I stand by my assessment toon Skeletor isn't taking Hulk or Hancock.

@sinntek1: The mini comics preceded the cartoon by about a year. MotU started pushing out figures in 1982. Cartoon came out in 83. He Man and Skeletor were my first action figures.

As far as TP, Skeletor would have to remove Cain's helmet and odds say that he doesn't realize that. As far as Kurth, I'm not up to date on his feats, so I'm not going to dip too deeply into this thread. I'd assume he's got pretty much the same general powersets.

I hope you guys realize that Kuurth is virtually unchallenged so far, he was powered by both a multiversal demon AND a skyfather. Skeletors magic would have to be powerful enough to override theirs and regardless of his nifty feats thats quite doubtful.

TK not TP. Skeletor can do telekinesis as well as telepathy.

I was referring to the mini-comics that came out after the cartoon. They released some before the movie and cartoon as well as after. The original mini-comics do not provide enough information on Skeletor for him to even be relevant in a battle thread since his only feat was fighting He-Man once in the originals.

@vengerprofessional: Those showings doesn't come close to what Juggernaut is capable of doing, that monster is small and if it doesn't have any valuable feats its useless, Juggernaut is protected by a magic barrier which will protect him against such turning into a stone. Juggernaut has taken on foes like Thor who is leagues above He-Man and even tanked hits from Mjolnir which is a planetary level weapon.

Not to forget about his momentum, if he gathers enough momentum he will be near unstoppable and could just ram Skeletor over, here he had run through whole Earth thanks to his momentum.. Prove me Skeletor has the strength to stop that, it needs way above 50 tons of strength dude.

@sinntek1: Yeah, that is what I was thinking. Going by the mini comics, most of the time he didn't do much directly and when he did he usually had amps.

As for TK, my mistake. Not that TK should do much. If Cain puts his force field up, TK shouldn't even effect him. Also keep in mind I'm talking about base Cain, not Kuurth. He couldn't even be BFR'ed in a scan Noone posted above, so I really don't see what TK is going to do besides slow down the inevitable.

Not that it has anything to do with the fight, but rumor mill is they are about set to make another MotU movie. I'm hoping for the best.

@risingbean: Yeah it is but IIRC Juggernaut owned The Thing in Secret Wars 2

Just to be fair though, Juggernaut doesn't stand a chance even if Skeletor isn't using the amps from items he's stolen or receive. Skeletor's has unmatched strength and H2H in the He-man comics, so it is hard to say just how strong he is.

Only way I could see Juggs winning is if Cytorrak intervened. Skeletor wouldn't need to BFR him though if he has the power sword fragment, he could just punch him half way across the battle field over and over while Juggs keeps trying to rush him. :/ Its not a fair match-up.

Skeletor

I couldn't tell you. SW2 was terrible. I'm hoping to make it through life without having to ever have to look at another issue from it again.

Keep in mind Juggernaut tanks punches from Hulk and his ilk. If his force field is up, Skeletor wouldn't even be able to touch him. Base Cain (without any Kuurth additions) tanked a Godblast from Thor. He's probably the premier physical bad guy in Marvel if he isn't powered down or jobbing.

At the end of the day we may have to agree to disagree.

@risingbean: Like I said, I recall reading that Juggernaut simply left. Nothing Spidey did was winning him the fight. Even with Madame Web hurt and possibly dead and Pete going all out, Cain was shrugging off everything.

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And 80's cartoon Skeletor was a loon. As was Shredder from the 1988 TMNT show. Both those guys were played for laughs. Skeletor had some decent feats with the 2002 series, but his men were so incompetent that it hurt to watch. I stand by my assessment toon Skeletor isn't taking Hulk or Hancock.

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Skeletor had some decent feats with the 2002 series, but his men were so incompetent

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I can not belive what you said how men from 2002 Skeletor is so incompetent when he fight with Masters if you think men from Filmation and 80 yes men of Skeletor is so incompetent including Beast Man and Trap Jaw.

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I stand by my assessment toon Skeletor isn't taking Hulk or Hancock.

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Despite Skeletor failings FROM 80 CARTOON to conquering Eternia he is still shown to have considerable MAGIC skills.

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Despite THAT 80 FILMATION SKELETOR HAS occasional bungling actions and personality HE BEAT each SINGLE WIZARD IN FILMATION BUT HE CAN NOT BEAT HULK HU KNOW ONLY TO SMASH

@vengerprofessional: He doesn't need speed, he can clap his hands together that creates such a powerful shockwave it crushes Skeletor.

No just no no no. You're wrong. K thx bai bai.

True however, Skeletor is not Hulk... He would probably launch Hulk pretty far too. Power sword gave him temporary control of the power of greyskull.

@sinntek1: What did he do feat wise with that power? did he launch He Man or something as a basis for that line of thought? We all know what Thor or Hulk are capable of. They are decent benchmarks for Juggernaut. Does Skeletor have any benchmarks?

N52 Skeletor doesn't really have too many things that would stop him from being capable of that.

However, Skeletor when he had the fragment of the power sword was at the strength of He-Man if not stronger since it amplified him magically as well as physically. Hence, how he went from being somewhat skrawny to the buff pimp we know him as today. (This occurred during the original mini-comics 2nd phase, not the ones that did not explain his origin.)

Feat Wise :

He's thrown Superman pretty far. This was in the original DC crossover.

He-man has been launched half way across Eternia by Skele lol.

He shook the entire planet when he hit Castle Grayskull dead on with his sword. (Trying to find the scan of this.)

I'm not very good at googling scans lol.

@risingbean: Skeletor had some decent feats with the 2002 series, but his men were so incompetent that it hurt to watch.

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Skeletor men from 2002 series were so incompetent ? Of course if you think henchmen from Filmaton yes Beast Man and Trap Jaw was so incompetent .But from 2002 series ?Beast Man and Trap Jaw was reasonably competent from 2002 series ... i cannot believe what you said,What? Any proof to back up these claims?

@elderskaar: Juggernaut has taken on foes like Thor who is leagues above He-Man and even tanked hits from Mjolnir which is a planetary level weapon.

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Juggernaut is Physically stronger however in terms of Plot Powers Skeletor power was vastly superior


http://old.he-man.org/primary_sects/comics/html/mini_comics/motu/comic_pages/00074520/01-02.shtml

Skeletor can steal Juggernaut dream when he sleep

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Juggernaut has taken on foes like Thor who is leagues above He-Man and even tanked hits from Mjolnir which is a planetary level weapon.


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What stop Skeletor to send him in another dimension?

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Not to forget about his momentum, if he gathers enough momentum he will be near unstoppable and could just ram Skeletor over, here he had run through whole Earth thanks to his momentum.. Prove me Skeletor has the strength to stop that, it needs way above 50 tons of strength dude.

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Skeletor is not strong like Juggernaut but he is wizard

magic vs strength

magic wins

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Not to forget about his momentum, if he gathers enough momentum he will be near unstoppable and could just ram Skeletor over, here he had run through whole Earth thanks to his momentum.. Prove me Skeletor has the strength to stop that, it needs way above 50 tons of strength dude.


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Do you realize that Skeletor has hundred ability to beats Juggernaut and Juggernaut one TO SMASH.

The SKELETOR is more versatile and could beat him many different ways (remove his MEMORY and then just kill him SEND HIM IN ANOTHER DIMENSION

Problem is. SKELETOR can turn intangible making all of Juggernaut powers useless

Problem is SKELETOR can CRETATE FORCEFIELD

Problem is SKELTOR can create MONSTER

Problem is SKELETOR can HYPNOTIZE Juggernaut

Problem is SKELEOTR has lots of other powers to take him down

Skeletor has travel ability he can teleporting him in another dimension or sun or black hole can not hurt Juggernaut?Skeletor can go in the past and kill Juggernaut when he is the baby he can steal his dream when he sleep, he can banished Juggernaut memory forever with finger he can attack Juggernaut in kilometer away..distance....!!!Juggernaut can't touch Skeletor because Skeletor can teleport himself in seconds.