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#1 Posted by TifaLockhart (14051 posts) - - Show Bio

How about Thor vs. Hulk - mano a mano? (and no, lightning is not part of Thor's reach despite what he told Hercules)

This is regular Thor vs. regular Hulk, whatever those mean.

#2 Posted by progenitor (7541 posts) - - Show Bio

If you mean classic vs. classic, I would go with Thor.

#3 Edited by jashro44 (21902 posts) - - Show Bio

This has been done (I'm pretty sure).

I personally side with hulk...A lot of people are gonna disagree. That is if your talking hand to hand.

#4 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
Didn't they try that in an old Defenders issue? Thor didn't use Mjolnir in order to make the fight more fair.
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#5 Posted by TifaLockhart (14051 posts) - - Show Bio

@Morpheus_: Is that the one where they stalemated for an hour?

#6 Posted by Dernman (15112 posts) - - Show Bio

The majority think Thor destroys Hulk?  Since when?

#7 Posted by TifaLockhart (14051 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dernman: Since I joined ComicVine, at least.

#8 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@Morpheus_: Is that the one where they stalemated for an hour?

I think that's a separate fight. They matched strength for an hour during Avengers/Defenders War, but Thor did use Mjolnir earlier in the fight.
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#9 Posted by TifaLockhart (14051 posts) - - Show Bio

@Morpheus_: OK, thanks. I only made this thread to see what it takes to have Hulk conceivably score even 1 win in some people's eyes. I get the feeling I'll have to up it to Worldbreaker.

#10 Posted by jashro44 (21902 posts) - - Show Bio

@Morpheus_: @The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia: I think you guys are talking about thor 385. Thor fought hulk without his hammer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03BxUKkEVAM

Here is a link to a video that shows the full fight. I think hulk was winning for the most part but hulk pretty well said he was afraid of thor in the end.

#11 Edited by Dernman (15112 posts) - - Show Bio
@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia: I never thought that nor did I think the majority did.  
Anyway even though I think a god should be able to beat a gamma monster the way Marvel writes it seems Hulk would win in a fight between the two normally.
#12 Posted by TifaLockhart (14051 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dernman: For the record, Hulk doesn't appeal to me. I just was amazed how on other boards (which shall remain nameless) he's treated as a literal cosmic being, while here he seems to not win anything.

#13 Posted by CapitolPunishment (2303 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:
@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@Morpheus_: Is that the one where they stalemated for an hour?

I think that's a separate fight. They matched strength for an hour during Avengers/Defenders War, but Thor did use Mjolnir earlier in the fight.
There was an avengers comic in 97" (irrc) when Thor didn't get anywhere with a massive lightning strike and strikes with Mjnolnir. He then said said something like "what Uru could not do alone a god will do with his fists" then got he crap pounded out of him pretty badly. It may have been one of the heroes reborn Arc's though so may not be cannon, not sure if it is or not.
#14 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@jashro44 said:

@Morpheus_: @The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia: I think you guys are talking about thor 385. Thor fought hulk without his hammer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03BxUKkEVAM

Here is a link to a video that shows the full fight. I think hulk was winning for the most part but hulk pretty well said he was afraid of thor in the end.

That's the issue I had in mind, thanks.
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#15 Edited by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@CapitolPunishment said:

@Morpheus_ said:

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@Morpheus_: Is that the one where they stalemated for an hour?

I think that's a separate fight. They matched strength for an hour during Avengers/Defenders War, but Thor did use Mjolnir earlier in the fight.
There was an avengers comic in 97" (irrc) when Thor didn't get anywhere with a massive lightning strike and strikes with Mjnolnir. He then said said something like "what Uru could not do alone a god will do with his fists" then got he crap pounded out of him pretty badly. It may have been one of the heroes reborn Arc's though so may not be cannon, not sure if it is or not.
I remember that but it's a separate continuity. Funnily enough Thor couldn't hurt Hulk but Iron Man fought him to a standstill and even dropped him temporarily in one shot. And in Onslaught Reborn, which took place in the Heroes Reborn universe, Thor (while possessed by Onslaught) was about to finish off Hulk, but due to his actions, he was deemed unworthy to lift Mjolnir anymore.
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#16 Posted by TifaLockhart (14051 posts) - - Show Bio

@CapitolPunishment: '97 sounds like around Heroes Reborn, so possibly.

@jashro44: Thanks for the link! Sorry I missed thanking you earlier.

#17 Posted by Dernman (15112 posts) - - Show Bio
@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@Dernman: For the record, Hulk doesn't appeal to me. I just was amazed how on other boards (which shall remain nameless) he's treated as a literal cosmic being, while here he seems to not win anything.

I guess for most people it all comes down to who you like better. The majority of people on that board favor one over the other and same goes for this one.
#18 Posted by TifaLockhart (14051 posts) - - Show Bio

I personally do not believe liking a character better than another is the "right" reason to say he/she/it wins.

If I say something like, "Sephiroth cause IMO he's cooler" I'm sort of a hypocrite, but at least I admit I got nothin'.

#19 Posted by RoyalDivinity (3172 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@Dernman: For the record, Hulk doesn't appeal to me. I just was amazed how on other boards (which shall remain nameless) he's treated as a literal cosmic being, while here he seems to not win anything.

Hulk's possibly treated as the DD of Marvel but due to reasons, Hulk's labeled off as earthbound on the same tier as Magneto. It is possible that Hulk's stronger than this rank but we still haven't seen it yet aside from character hype. Doom believes Hulk's gamma energy is superior to Surfer's cosmic energy. So it's possible that Hulk COULD be the actual DD of Marvel. I'm still unsure due to Hulk's lower showings.

#20 Posted by Lvenger (20038 posts) - - Show Bio

The honest answer is that there isn't one. The feats are always inconclusive and can be used to back up one fighter as much as the other. So truthfully there is no real answer. Just the opinions of people who are inclined to think one way as opposed to the other

#21 Posted by TERMINATOR_WORSHIPPER (58 posts) - - Show Bio

Since it's a regular version of Hulk he'd lose. Thors faster,stronger and more durable without his hammer.

#22 Posted by Dernman (15112 posts) - - Show Bio
@PunkMastaFlex: DD?
#23 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dernman said:
@PunkMastaFlex: DD?
I presume he means Doomsday.
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#24 Posted by Dernman (15112 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh

#25 Posted by jashro44 (21902 posts) - - Show Bio

@Morpheus_: @The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia: No problem

#26 Edited by RoyalDivinity (3172 posts) - - Show Bio

@Morpheus_ said:

@Dernman said:
@PunkMastaFlex: DD?
I presume he means Doomsday.

No I meant dada. (Sarcasm)

#27 Posted by CapitolPunishment (2303 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:
@CapitolPunishment said:

@Morpheus_ said:

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@Morpheus_: Is that the one where they stalemated for an hour?

I think that's a separate fight. They matched strength for an hour during Avengers/Defenders War, but Thor did use Mjolnir earlier in the fight.
There was an avengers comic in 97" (irrc) when Thor didn't get anywhere with a massive lightning strike and strikes with Mjnolnir. He then said said something like "what Uru could not do alone a god will do with his fists" then got he crap pounded out of him pretty badly. It may have been one of the heroes reborn Arc's though so may not be cannon, not sure if it is or not.
I remember that but it's a separate continuity. Funnily enough Thor couldn't hurt Hulk but Iron Man fought him to a standstill and even dropped him temporarily in one shot. And in Onslaught Reborn, which took place in the Heroes Reborn universe, Thor (while possessed by Onslaught) was about to finish off Hulk, but due to his actions, he was deemed unworthy to lift Mjolnir anymore.
Yes, but Hulk was pretty PO'd at Thor in the first fight, not sure how angry he was when he fought Iron Man or Onslaught possessed Thor (They were big on that back then)
 
I know allot of people don't really like it but I Its my general opinion that Thor can put down the Hulk if he acts hard and fast with a huge attack (which is mostly out of character for him). If not and the Hulk gets to his enraged state is very hard for Thor to even hurt him at that point, weather he uses the winds from a Thousand world or his rage is burning hotter than a thousand suns :)
#28 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@CapitolPunishment said:
Yes, but Hulk was pretty PO'd at Thor in the first fight, not sure how angry he was when he fought Iron Man or Onslaught possessed Thor (They were big on that back then)
Moderately angry in the fight with Iron Man, very angry against Thor, if memory serves right. Even though anger is rather subjective to the viewer since there is no exact way to tell just how angry a person is.
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#29 Posted by TifaLockhart (14051 posts) - - Show Bio

@CapitolPunishment: I agree with that.

@PunkMastaFlex: Acronyms can confuse people. Take DD vs. DS, for example. Is it Daredevil vs. Deathstroke or Doomsday vs. Darkseid?

#30 Edited by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor without Mjolnir vs Regular Hulk? Thor.

#31 Posted by RoyalDivinity (3172 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@CapitolPunishment: I agree with that.

@PunkMastaFlex: Acronyms can confuse people. Take DD vs. DS, for example. Is it Daredevil vs. Deathstroke or Doomsday vs. Darkseid?

Now that you put it that way. However the way I used it to compare Hulk to DD, the most logical answer would be Doomsday of course. Although Darkseid isn't that far behind.

#32 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dernman said:

The majority think Thor destroys Hulk? Since when?

Since always.

#33 Posted by TifaLockhart (14051 posts) - - Show Bio

@PunkMastaFlex: True, but I doubt it's necessary to abbreviate something that doesn't take too much longer to type. I'm guilty of this too.

#34 Posted by RoyalDivinity (3172 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@PunkMastaFlex: True, but I doubt it's necessary to abbreviate something that doesn't take too much longer to type. I'm guilty of this too.

Unfortunately, so am I :P

#35 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

1.Hulk who fought against Onslaught was a pure anger, Jean "released" it on Onslaught.
2.Thor without human soul, wanted to conquer Earth. So Avengers tried to stop him. Thor had OF, but wasn't worthy of Mjolnir anymore. Wolverine cutted his arm off. Strange with Council of Godheads' amulet blocked Thor's OF.
Then Hulk and Thing attacked Thor. This Thor doesn't have Mjolnir nor OF and is without one arm:

Bloodlusted-weakned Thor vs. Hulk and Thing part 1
Bloodlusted-weakned Thor vs. Hulk and Thing part 2
3.Thor also fought with Hulk in Hel and almost whole battle he didn't use Mjolnir. He wanted to use it as a finish-blow:
#36 Posted by jashro44 (21902 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666:Your last scans are of professor hulk who is the weakest hulk there is.

#37 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@jashro44 said:

@czarny_samael666:Your last scans are of professor hulk who is the weakest hulk there is.

Not from the start of battle. In the start Proffesor is stronger.  
 
Still, Thor wins.
#38 Posted by Dernman (15112 posts) - - Show Bio

UG I hated professor hulk

#39 Posted by jashro44 (21902 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

@jashro44 said:

@czarny_samael666:Your last scans are of professor hulk who is the weakest hulk there is.

Not from the start of battle. In the start Proffesor is stronger. Still, Thor wins.

Professor hulk starts at 100 tons and stays at that level until becoming savage banner. Literally any version of hulk could have did that. Just saying you can't compare a fight between hulk and thor based off of professor hulk.

#40 Posted by vuviper (5531 posts) - - Show Bio

@TERMINATOR_WORSHIPPER said:

Since it's a regular version of Hulk he'd lose. Thors faster,stronger and more durable without his hammer.

Is he really faster?

#41 Posted by TifaLockhart (14051 posts) - - Show Bio

@vuviper: Actually, even I think Thor's faster. But stronger and more durable I'm not sold on.

#42 Posted by vuviper (5531 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@vuviper: Actually, even I think Thor's faster. But stronger and more durable I'm not sold on.

I think I'm most inclined to believe stronger out of the three. Hulk's healing gives him an edge in durability that I haven't really seen in Thor. I've seen attempts to demonstrate Thor's speed fail really show anything but good reflexes, not even great reflexes.

#43 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
  @vuviper said:

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@vuviper: Actually, even I think Thor's faster. But stronger and more durable I'm not sold on.

I think I'm most inclined to believe stronger out of the three. Hulk's healing gives him an edge in durability that I haven't really seen in Thor. I've seen attempts to demonstrate Thor's speed fail really show anything but good reflexes, not even great reflexes.


 
Thor using microsecond speed reaction

 
About durability, Hulk never survived in heart of Sun. His fight with Zeus also wasn't too impresive if You compare it to  Thor's with Destroyer, Mangog or Kurse.
 
Plus if we will count how it looks when each of them stands against Thanos... 
Besides, bloodlusted Thor showed what he will do to Hulk without any morals.
#44 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9736 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor is stronger, faster, and more durable. Even without Mjolnir he wins this

#45 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (6363 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor's been proven both more durable and less. Stronger, and then not so strong. Feats vary for both. Not cut and dry.

And I tend to think Marvel really wants to promote Hulk as 'the strongest one there is'.

Here, I'll assume both are at their best/strongest/most durable.

This being the case, in the absence of magic and hammer, I still think Thor would eek out a victory. He has some outstanding feats.

#46 Edited by demifiend (3575 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dernman said:

The majority think Thor destroys Hulk?  Since when?

this. 
 
hulk says 
 
without the hammer you are nothing!!! lol
 
#47 Posted by jashro44 (21902 posts) - - Show Bio

@demifiend said:

@Dernman said:

The majority think Thor destroys Hulk? Since when?

this.

hulk says

without the hammer you are nothing!!! lol

I don't believe thats canon.

#48 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@demifiend said:

@Dernman said:

The majority think Thor destroys Hulk? Since when?

this.

hulk says

without the hammer you are nothing!!! lol

That was a dream sequence.

Here some real continuity:

#49 Posted by demifiend (3575 posts) - - Show Bio
@jashro44@venomoushatred1001:  
 
@venomoushatred1001 said:

@demifiend said:

@Dernman said:

The majority think Thor destroys Hulk? Since when?

this.

hulk says

without the hammer you are nothing!!! lol

That was a dream sequence.

Here some real continuity:

that is PIS
#50 Posted by The Stegman (24460 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor is stronger, faster, and more durable. Even without Mjolnir he wins this

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