silversurfer and nova vs hulk and thor

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#1  Edited By marvelrules2011

who wins and why
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#2  Edited By MrDirector786

Surfer solos. His energy manipulation powers will allow him to drain all of Hulk's gamma radiation and turn him back into Banner, then he takes down Thor.

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#3  Edited By PirateKing69

Team 1

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#4  Edited By Pharoh_Atem

silver surfer and nova wins
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#5  Edited By Chaos Prime

Team 1..ftw...

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#6  Edited By Silver2467
@MrDirector786 said:
" Surfer solos. His energy manipulation powers will allow him to drain all of Hulk's gamma radiation and turn him back into Banner, then he takes down Thor. "
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#7  Edited By Ramtha07
@Silver2467:
Pretty sure Thor has been shown draining foes with Mjolnir as well... so I don't know that it's going to be as easy as all that. Depends on which Thor shows up... Avengers Thor or Cosmic villain, Celestial battling Thor. 
 
My heart wants to say team 2... cuz I luvs Thor. But I would say team 1 takes majority. I don't know... someone please prove me wrong!
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#8  Edited By PirateKing69
@Ramtha07: Hulk is the weak link because SS can drain him and he will be a normal human...even if Thor does drain it will still be 2 vs 1....hope that helps you some
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#9  Edited By Ramtha07
@PirateKing69:

OP shoulda said WW Hulk then... cuz there ain't no reverting HIM back to banner... they're one and the same. 
 
Ah well...
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#10  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Ramtha07 said:
" @PirateKing69: OP shoulda said WW Hulk then... cuz there ain't no reverting HIM back to banner... "
There is. Since WWH already reverted back to Banner during his fight with the Sentry.
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#11  Edited By Ramtha07
@PirateKing69: 
 
However, if Thor drains Surfer (can he even?) or Nova while Surfer drains Hulk... tis 1 vs 1 is it not?
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#12  Edited By Ramtha07
@Morpheus_:
Ah... oh well... stand corrected then (missed that one)
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#13  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Ramtha07 said:
" @Morpheus_: Ah... oh well... stand corrected then (missed that one) "
No problem. 
 
As WWH, Banner and the Hulk merely acted in unison towards a common goal - vengeance.
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#14  Edited By King_Saturn
Silver Surfer and Nova should win in an interesting fight with Hulk and Thor
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#15  Edited By czarny_samael666

Surfer solo.

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#16  Edited By nefarious

Silver Surfer and Nova defeat Team 2. 

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#17  Edited By Valtot

surfer solo
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#18  Edited By virgin4life

surfer solo

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#19  Edited By TheGoldenOne

Team 1 takes this

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#20  Edited By HolySerpent


the surfer is not  soloing,

team 2 ftw

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#21  Edited By MrDirector786
@HolySerpent said:
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the surfer is not  soloing,

team 2 ftw

"
How does team 2 win? Hulk is pretty much a nonfactor against the Surfer and current Surfer pretty much downed Beta Ray Bill - who is about Thor's equal - with a single punch.
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There is really no way Surfer and Nova can lose this Nova can hold his own with either Hulk and Thor, and Surfer can beat both of them so no matter how you match it up Surfer and Nova are going to take this.

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#23  Edited By HolySerpent
@MrDirector786:
beta ray is not thor, thor has held is own against silversufer on several occasions, he wont put thor down with a single puch,  and saying the hulk is a nonfactor is ridiculas.
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#24  Edited By Valtot
@HolySerpent:
thor has held his own against a pre amped surfur current surfer has even 1 shotted the cancer verse thor and done the same to beta ray bill, cancer verse thor is the same power level as normal thor and theres a bunch of other instances where silver surfer has shown hes more powerful even destroying a galaxy at one point with some sort of black hole he created
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#25  Edited By HolySerpent
@Valtot:
but hasnt thor been  able to hurt galaticus
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#26  Edited By Valtot
@HolySerpent:
thor has only ever been capable of harming a weakened galactus its not like thor stands 0.5% a chance against a moderatly filled galactus
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#27  Edited By joshmightbe

depends on what level the characters are like Rune King Thor could probably solo but current thor would get stomped and I doubt the hulk could take current surfer on his best day

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#28  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@HolySerpent said:
" @Valtot: but hasnt thor been  able to hurt galaticus "
Iron Man has hurt Galactus. The Thing has hurt Galactus. Plenty of people have hurt Galactus when they shouldn't have.
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#29  Edited By joshmightbe
@Morpheus_: But only surfer has hurt him emotionally 
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#30  Edited By demifiend

current surfer solo

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#31  Edited By MrDirector786
@HolySerpent said:
" @MrDirector786: beta ray is not thor, thor has held is own against silversufer on several occasions, he wont put thor down with a single puch,  and saying the hulk is a nonfactor is ridiculas. "
What's Hulk going to do to him? Surfer's energy manipulation powers have allowed him to actually just rip out all of his gamma radiation and turn him back into Banner, and I've heard he's done this more than once (though I've only seen one instance of him doing it). Hulk isn't going to do much. And current Surfer is a lot more powerful than he used to be. Thor may put up some of a fight but would go down. Surfer solos.
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#32  Edited By czarny_samael666
@HolySerpent said:
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the surfer is not  soloing,

team 2 ftw

"
How he is not soloing?
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#33  Edited By darth_fletcher

team 2 definitely take this...roll on mighty thor series where he whips surfer like a bitch !!!

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#34  Edited By CosmicSpiral
@Morpheus_ said:
" @HolySerpent said:
" @Valtot: but hasnt thor been  able to hurt galaticus "
Iron Man has hurt Galactus. The Thing has hurt Galactus. Plenty of people have hurt Galactus when they shouldn't have. "
Two reasons. 
 
1. This was the period of time when Thor was running around the cosmos taking on the most powerful beings in the universe.  
2. He hurt a very weakened Galactus with his most powerful attack (as emphasized over and over and over again in the dialogue).
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#35  Edited By demifiend

i mean the surfer who fought aegis and tenebrous by himself. thats an impressive feat

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#36  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@CosmicSpiral said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
" @HolySerpent said:
" @Valtot: but hasnt thor been  able to hurt galaticus "
Iron Man has hurt Galactus. The Thing has hurt Galactus. Plenty of people have hurt Galactus when they shouldn't have. "
Two reasons.  1. This was the period of time when Thor was running around the cosmos taking on the most powerful beings in the universe.  2. He hurt a very weakened Galactus with his most powerful attack (as emphasized over and over and over again in the dialogue). "
Even with his most powerful attack, Thor, or any character of his level having Galactus run away (which is exactly what Thor did) is by no means feasible to me.
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I recall Thor hurting Galactus about twice, one time he threw his hammer, the other time he used a Godblast. 
 
Surfer solo's BTW

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Hulk is outta his league

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#39  Edited By joshmightbe
@Morpheus_: that reminds me of the scene from the 90's FF cartoon where Ghost rider took down Galactus with the penance stare 
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#40  Edited By demifiend
@joshmightbe said:
" @Morpheus_: that reminds me of the scene from the 90's FF cartoon where Ghost rider took down Galactus with the penance stare  "
lol, i saw that too 
 
  
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#41  Edited By joshmightbe
@demifiend: you gotta love the cheese factor of that show 
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#42  Edited By MrDirector786

That reminds me of an episode from the 1990s X-men cartoon where Storm got owned by an ice-cream container. :P

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#43  Edited By HolySerpent
@demifiend:
ghost rider for the win lol
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team 1

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#45  Edited By demifiend
@HolySerpent said:
" @demifiend: ghost rider for the win lol "
now I understand 
 
ghost rider>>>> galactus!. 
 
lol, the guy who wrote that chapter never read a marvel comic in his entire life! 
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#46  Edited By demifiend
@MrDirector786 said:
" That reminds me of an episode from the 1990s X-men cartoon where Storm got owned by an ice-cream container. :P "
man thats hard to find
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#47  Edited By MrDirector786
@demifiend said:
" @MrDirector786 said:
" That reminds me of an episode from the 1990s X-men cartoon where Storm got owned by an ice-cream container. :P "
man thats hard to find "
The episode is "A Rogue's Tail".
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#48  Edited By CosmicSpiral
@Morpheus_ said: 
Even with his most powerful attack, Thor, or any character of his level having Galactus run away (which is exactly what Thor did) is by no means feasible to me. "
While the extent Galactus weakens when he doesn't feed is disputable, it's clear that a starving Galactus is not nearly as powerful as a recently-fed one. Also I believe Thor was channeling Ego's energies as well as his own at Galactus.  
 
The Godblast has wounded skyfather-level characters and above. 
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#49  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@CosmicSpiral said:
" @Morpheus_ said: 
Even with his most powerful attack, Thor, or any character of his level having Galactus run away (which is exactly what Thor did) is by no means feasible to me. "
While the extent Galactus weakens when he doesn't feed is disputable, it's clear that a starving Galactus is not nearly as powerful as a recently-fed one. Also I believe Thor was channeling Ego's energies as well as his own at Galactus.   
 
The Godblast has wounded skyfather-level characters and above.  "
Indeed so. I do not recall that last detail about Ego, but it does add another dimension to the feat that validates it more, at least to my mind. Ego wasn't nearly the slouch he now is, back in the day.
 
Slightly off topic, but is hurting a Celestial classic Thor's highest blasting feat, or is there any other that eludes me?
 
PS - A Durok vs Wonder Woman thread was posted a few days ago, I thought it could be of interest to you.
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#50  Edited By capall2
@MrDirector786 said:
"Surfer solos. His energy manipulation powers will allow him to drain all of Hulk's gamma radiation and turn him back into Banner, then he takes down Thor. "