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#1 Posted by myrongains (204 posts) - - Show Bio

Searched for this battle but nothing came up... even on google.

Anyway who wins this?

#2 Posted by Beware_My_Power (2899 posts) - - Show Bio
#3 Posted by homicidalmaniac (7708 posts) - - Show Bio
#4 Edited by PrinceAragorn1 (17793 posts) - - Show Bio

Searched for this battle but nothing came up... even on google.

For Good reason.

@god_spawn: @saren: It's the abomination!! kill it with fire!

#5 Edited by Kingant27 (5430 posts) - - Show Bio

@myrongains: is this a joke, you need to read a comic or something.

You have got a guy his a herald of Galactus vs a guy who was almost God in the Marvel universe.

Flagged.

#6 Edited by Beware_My_Power (2899 posts) - - Show Bio

@myrongains: I see you are new, but here's a brief rundown on a few power levels:

Surfer=Herald Level<<<<<<<<SkyFather Level<<<<<<<<<<Nigh Omnipotence<<<<<<<<<< Lucifer and Michael<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Beyonder

#7 Edited by Beware_My_Power (2899 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingant27: hey, he's new give him a break. He could own a BUNCH of comics, but he misinterprets the scans...

#8 Edited by homicidalmaniac (7708 posts) - - Show Bio

NO version of Silver Surfer can beat PR Beyonder

#9 Edited by myrongains (204 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingant27: how come silver surfer beats molecule man but pre retcon beyonder struggles with molecule man? Also doctor doom beat beyonder and silver surfer is more powerful than doom

Edit: just started getting into marvel comics dont kill me

#10 Posted by Kingant27 (5430 posts) - - Show Bio

I know but this is as bad as people saying, Batman with Prep> One above all.

#11 Posted by dondave (37925 posts) - - Show Bio

There's a reason you didn't find it.

#12 Posted by Kingant27 (5430 posts) - - Show Bio

@myrongains: There is a difference between Secret Wars Molecule man and regular molecule man.

#13 Posted by Beware_My_Power (2899 posts) - - Show Bio

@myrongains: lol IIRC Beyonder's and Molecule Man's Battle was tearing apart universes... When surfer fought him, some terrain was destroyed...

#14 Posted by P0rtal (872 posts) - - Show Bio

Guys, I have the worst razor burn on my head when i shave it. I don't really know how to stop it, I own all the best blades and the best electric razor and i still get razer burn. I take my time, lather and warm towels for 10 minutes dont seem to help. It is really annoying and I would love to know if anyone else has experience with razor burn and how they got over it when shaving their heads. Typically, I am left with blue beard on my head and it looks kind of silly, but due to some medical treatments my hair half fell out so I have to shave it. So, Im worried and annoyed. Comicvine is my only hope...specifically a SS vs Beyonder thread that is going to get locked any second. Any advice before the lock is appreciated.

#15 Posted by Jmarshmallow (8036 posts) - - Show Bio

@p0rtal: Wait...what?

Anyway, Pre Retcon Beyonder murderstomps.

But @Beware_My_Power...you're rating is a little bit off. Beyonder IS nigh omnipotent, so there's no way he can be above it.

And I would argue that Lucifer + Michael could beat PR Beyonder. Together they're supposed to = God.

Jmarshmallow

#16 Edited by God_of_Wrath (116 posts) - - Show Bio

Muehehehe!!!!

#17 Edited by Beware_My_Power (2899 posts) - - Show Bio

@jmarshmallow: I don't think Luci and Michael are ever allowed to = Their Father; But they are kinda like the HOTU of The DC Universe... Second only to God himself

On The Beyonder part... I've heard many people say he is actually Omnipotent...

#18 Edited by Kingant27 (5430 posts) - - Show Bio

Omnipotent= One above All(Not celestial)

Nigh-Omnipotent= (Pre-recton Beyonder), Living Tribunal, Pre-recton Molecule Man

Multi-Abstract= Multi-Eternity, Multi-Multi-Infinity etc.

Abstract= Eternity, Infinity, Death, Oblivion, Full fed Galactus.

High Celestial= Fulcrum, Taimut, Arshiem etc.

Mid-level Celestial

Low-level Celestial

High Cosmic cube= Kubik

Mid Cosmic cube

Low Cosmic cube

High Elder God= Rune King Thor

Mid Elder god

Low Elder god

High Sky-father= Odin

Mid Sky-father

Low Sky-father

High Transcendent= Thanos

Mid Transcendent

Low Transcendent

High Herald= (Silver Surfer)

Mid Herald

Low Herald

Etc.

#19 Edited by mikep12 (4142 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer beats this faker

#20 Posted by Beware_My_Power (2899 posts) - - Show Bio
#21 Posted by Apocalypse3 (1534 posts) - - Show Bio

Molecule man wins easily

#22 Posted by Beware_My_Power (2899 posts) - - Show Bio
#23 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (25144 posts) - - Show Bio

Why does stomp threads like this get so much play, but threads that are actually good barely get post?

#24 Posted by Jmarshmallow (8036 posts) - - Show Bio

@beware_my_power: Luci and Michael are supposed to just be the two aspects of God.

On the one hand you have Michael: the power. The almighty divine force.

On the other there's Lucifer, the all-knowing, creative, and precise imagination, that actually formulates creation.

So Luci designs it, and Michael builds it. That's how it's suppose to go. Once they're together, they're God.

As for Beyonder....he can't be omnipotent. If he was omnipotent, then there would be no limit to his power. However, there were many limits.

He was easily tricked by Doctor Doom, Molecule was able to stalemate him for a time, and he was unable to bring back Lady Death after he killed her.

All signs of NIGH-omnipotence.

Jmarshmallow

#25 Posted by Albertphytagoras (1867 posts) - - Show Bio

What?

Pre retcon Beyonder would stomp Galactus...

This is Spite.

#26 Posted by Beware_My_Power (2899 posts) - - Show Bio

@jmarshmallow: Thanks for clearing up the Beyonder :)

I see where you're getting at with Luci and Michael, but even if their power to create and destroy is nigh-infinite, for some reason I still think their Father is at least one notch above them. For example. If Luci and Michael create a new multiverse without the Presence's approval, The Presence could just will it away. Just Speculation :)

#27 Posted by Jmarshmallow (8036 posts) - - Show Bio

@beware_my_power: I agree actually. There can only be ONE omnipotent in every universe, and that spot is already full.

I'm just saying that Luci + Michael are as close to omnipotence as PR Beyonder, if not moreso.

Jmarshmallow

#28 Posted by JwwProd (9648 posts) - - Show Bio

#29 Posted by RocketStark (108 posts) - - Show Bio

SS summons 10 black hole to pawn Wally west

#30 Posted by Beware_My_Power (2899 posts) - - Show Bio
#31 Posted by Cable_Extreme (9376 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow....

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