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#1 Posted by brainiac 1.0 (4150 posts) - - Show Bio

vs

Who wins and why

#2 Posted by brainiac 1.0 (4150 posts) - - Show Bio

Nobody knows

#3 Posted by The Vine Robots (88 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer.

#4 Posted by King Saturn (224286 posts) - - Show Bio
Monarch will defeat the Silver Surfer.  But this is gonna be one hell of a fight  !
#5 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

I wanna say Monarach.

#6 Posted by T.J. Magnum (27685 posts) - - Show Bio

well could go both ways,i give monarch my vote

#7 Posted by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio

Good fight I say Surfer currently with the way hes fighting now.

#8 Posted by Ball Buster (2041 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer with upgraded power wins my vote.

#9 Posted by brainiac 1.0 (4150 posts) - - Show Bio
Ball Buster said:
"Silver Surfer with upgraded power wins my vote."

Doesnot monarch stand chance
#10 Posted by King Saturn (224286 posts) - - Show Bio
brainiac 1.0 said:
"Ball Buster said:
"Silver Surfer with upgraded power wins my vote."

Doesnot monarch stand chance"
He Does
#11 Posted by King Saturn (224286 posts) - - Show Bio
brainiac 1.0 said:
"Ball Buster said:
"Silver Surfer with upgraded power wins my vote."

Doesnot monarch stand chance"
He Does
#12 Posted by brainiac 1.0 (4150 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"brainiac 1.0 said:
"Ball Buster said:
"Silver Surfer with upgraded power wins my vote."

Doesnot monarch stand chance"
He Does
"

But silver surfer would just blitz him or something.
#13 Posted by King Saturn (224286 posts) - - Show Bio
brainiac 1.0 said:
"King Saturn said:
"brainiac 1.0 said:
"Ball Buster said:
"Silver Surfer with upgraded power wins my vote."

Doesnot monarch stand chance"
He Does
"

But silver surfer would just blitz him or something."
I dont know if it will be that easy... I am sure Monarch has some level of speed himself
#14 Posted by brainiac 1.0 (4150 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"brainiac 1.0 said:
"King Saturn said:
"brainiac 1.0 said:
"Ball Buster said:
"Silver Surfer with upgraded power wins my vote."

Doesnot monarch stand chance"
He Does
"

But silver surfer would just blitz him or something."
I dont know if it will be that easy... I am sure Monarch has some level of speed himself
"
With that armor can he move that fast.
#15 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer has a limit to the enrgy he can access and project.
Monarch does not appear to have a limit.

Monarch has proven capable of engaging in physical combat with Superboy Prime and effectively has hugely upgraded Capt Atom powers.

This means that he has unlimited ability to absorb energy (as he channels it in to the Quantum field - a dimension filled with pure energy) and almost immeasureable ability to manipulate it.
His biggest energy release (but we still don't know if it killed him) vapourised an entire galaxy / dimension. That is power on a scale that the Surfer cannot duplicate (even Galactus cannot duplicate it).
Monarch has a similar control over matter as he does energy as he can free up the energy contained in matter and thus control it / destroy it.
Monarch's strength can be increased by power from the Quantum field and thus may also be almost unlimited.

#16 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
the creator said:
"

Silver Surfer has a limit to the enrgy he can access and project.
Monarch does not appear to have a limit.

Monarch has proven capable of engaging in physical combat with Superboy Prime and effectively has hugely upgraded Capt Atom powers.

This means that he has unlimited ability to absorb energy (as he channels it in to the Quantum field - a dimension filled with pure energy) and almost immeasureable ability to manipulate it.
His biggest energy release (but we still don't know if it killed him) vapourised an entire galaxy / dimension. That is power on a scale that the Surfer cannot duplicate (even Galactus cannot duplicate it).
Monarch has a similar control over matter as he does energy as he can free up the energy contained in matter and thus control it / destroy it.
Monarch's strength can be increased by power from the Quantum field and thus may also be almost unlimited.

"
And, this was a potential that he possessed even when he was Captain Atom.
#17 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio
Static Shock said:
"And, this was a potential that he possessed even when he was Captain Atom.
"

Yes, but he seemed to lack the full scope / control he displayed as Monarch.

Before, getting hit by and absorbing huige energy releases would bump him through the time stream but this did not happen in Countdown - hence better control.
#18 Posted by never give up (9621 posts) - - Show Bio

Monarch for the win.

#19 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

Monarch.

#20 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer

#21 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4760 posts) - - Show Bio
Static Shock said:
"Monarch."
Agreed
The guy stalemated prime
and we all know prime would stomp surfer

surfer dies a horrible death in this fight
#22 Posted by Fresh Prince (5155 posts) - - Show Bio
vampyreswrath said:
"how would prime stomp the surfer fuck head.he can rip the radiation out of him and make him his bitch.read up on the surfer and pull supermans dick out of your mouth.maybe if you knew anything about marvel instead of rideing dc nutts u might have a clue"
coll down :P anyways im goin for surfer here
#23 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio

Monarch could only win if he could manipulate the power cosmic. His energies wouldn't do much against the Surfer, he's faced greater.

#24 Posted by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio

Epic battle but Surfer wins he has faced greater and monarch still needs his suit to contain his energies.

#25 Posted by vuviper (5531 posts) - - Show Bio
@SeSAW:  The suit is to protect everyone else isn't it? Who has surfer faced that is greater? I don't read much Marvel
#26 Posted by Psyker star (3492 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer would win

#27 Posted by Ziro (1352 posts) - - Show Bio

Monarch(I really don't see Surfer pulling out the win in this one.).
#28 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

Monarch in curbtomp. 
Surfer can do nothing to him...

#29 Posted by CAPiTA (1520 posts) - - Show Bio

Monarch...
 
...but current Surfer would put up a fight.

#30 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
@CAPiTA said:
" Monarch... ...but current Surfer would put up a fight. "
No he wouldn't.
#31 Posted by MrDirector786 (43584 posts) - - Show Bio
@the creator said:
"

Silver Surfer has a limit to the enrgy he can access and project.
Monarch does not appear to have a limit.

Monarch has proven capable of engaging in physical combat with Superboy Prime and effectively has hugely upgraded Capt Atom powers.

This means that he has unlimited ability to absorb energy (as he channels it in to the Quantum field - a dimension filled with pure energy) and almost immeasureable ability to manipulate it.
His biggest energy release (but we still don't know if it killed him) vapourised an entire galaxy / dimension. That is power on a scale that the Surfer cannot duplicate (even Galactus cannot duplicate it).
Monarch has a similar control over matter as he does energy as he can free up the energy contained in matter and thus control it / destroy it.
Monarch's strength can be increased by power from the Quantum field and thus may also be almost unlimited.

"

#32 Edited by CAPiTA (1520 posts) - - Show Bio
@AtPhantom said:

" @CAPiTA said:

" Monarch... ...but current Surfer would put up a fight. "
No he wouldn't. "
he and Surfer are too similar, and though Monarch has much more raw power, it's not farfetched to say Surfer could absorb a good amount of it to use against him.
 
now, i don't think Surfer could beat him at all, but he'd pull out a good fight.
#33 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
@CAPiTA said:
" @AtPhantom said:
" @CAPiTA said:
" Monarch... ...but current Surfer would put up a fight. "
No he wouldn't. "
he and Surfer are too similar, and though Monarch has much more raw power, it's not farfetched to say Surfer could absorb a good amount of it to use against him. "
Yes it is. If he tried, he would overload, or simply be denied.
#34 Posted by MrDirector786 (43584 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think the Surfer can absorb enough energy to destroy the universe. Plus, Monarch is far stronger.

#35 Posted by CAPiTA (1520 posts) - - Show Bio
@AtPhantom said:
" @CAPiTA said:
" @AtPhantom said:
" @CAPiTA said:
" Monarch... ...but current Surfer would put up a fight. "
No he wouldn't. "
he and Surfer are too similar, and though Monarch has much more raw power, it's not farfetched to say Surfer could absorb a good amount of it to use against him. "
Yes it is. If he tried, he would overload, or simply be denied. "

getting denied i can see. overloading, not so much.
 
@MrDirector786 said:
" I don't think the Surfer can absorb enough energy to destroy the universe. Plus, Monarch is far stronger. "
he drained Blackbody AND the Uni-Lord, who had enough energy to destroy his universe. he also channeled The Crunch, and matched Thanos' power output while he was injured. i don't see Monarch overloading Surfer any time soon.
#36 Posted by Caligula (12417 posts) - - Show Bio

Monarch here.
#37 Posted by walid44 (14 posts) - - Show Bio

what i like of SS is he never gives up, So im for SS.

#38 Posted by The Mjolnir Wielder (7906 posts) - - Show Bio
@walid44 said:
"what i like of SS is he never gives up, So im for SS. "

Kick-Ass never gives up, so I guess he could defeat Monarch as well
#39 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
Monarch.
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#40 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

Monarch.

#41 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
I would change it to Surfer for the sake of the debate, but I honestly think Monarch would win.
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#42 Posted by Cypher's Gambit (2109 posts) - - Show Bio

The Surfer takes my pick.

#43 Posted by CosmicSpiral (5470 posts) - - Show Bio

Monarch is too powerful for the Surfer to overcome. Surfer can take consolation that he won't get one-shotted like all those versions of Superman. 

#44 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33631 posts) - - Show Bio
@the creator said:

Silver Surfer has a limit to the enrgy he can access and project.
Monarch does not appear to have a limit.

Monarch has proven capable of engaging in physical combat with Superboy Prime and effectively has hugely upgraded Capt Atom powers.

This means that he has unlimited ability to absorb energy (as he channels it in to the Quantum field - a dimension filled with pure energy) and almost immeasureable ability to manipulate it.
His biggest energy release (but we still don't know if it killed him) vapourised an entire galaxy / dimension. That is power on a scale that the Surfer cannot duplicate (even Galactus cannot duplicate it).
Monarch has a similar control over matter as he does energy as he can free up the energy contained in matter and thus control it / destroy it.
Monarch's strength can be increased by power from the Quantum field and thus may also be almost unlimited.

I know this is a really old thread but I was wondering does Surfer have a limit to the power he can access? because I'v seen some people say he does and some say he doesn't 
#45 Posted by CapitolPunishment (2303 posts) - - Show Bio

@spiderbat87: Yes.

#46 Posted by TheMightyAvenger (1912 posts) - - Show Bio

Monarch, he is on a completely superior level.

#47 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer could win, arguably.

#48 Posted by baron2011 (1154 posts) - - Show Bio

monarch is in galactus level and he would beat silver surfer easy

#49 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

@baron2011 said:

monarch is in galactus level and he would beat silver surfer easy

Monarch isn't Galactus-level.

#50 Posted by CapitolPunishment (2303 posts) - - Show Bio

@Static Shock: How?