Silver Surfer vs Ghost Rider (Read OP)

#1 Posted by ghost_rider1 (2640 posts) - 5 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

Zarathos is in control of the ghost rider.

Silver Surfer is NOT ALLOWED to fly. He has to remain on the ground.

Zarathos and Silver Surfer are bloodlusted with No Morals

They are fighting on an uninhabitated planet

Who wins?

#2 Posted by CadenceV2 (9951 posts) - 5 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

@ghost_rider1: I dont want to sound cocky at all..... however I do believe Zarathos could beat SS. I believe vice versa as well. Seriously Thor beaten SS many times and Zarathos could well defeat Thor.

Here are some fun facts. Zarathos can beat Hell lords. Hell Lords have many times proven beyond Silver Surfer. Zarathos is as powerful (if not more so) then Nobel Kale who became Hell Lord over Mephisto Realm. Hell Zarathos beaten Null the Living Void who is a minor Abstract as well Death it self in Deaths own game.

My point is Zarathos should damn well be able to hang with the Herald of Galactus.

#3 Posted by ghost_rider1 (2640 posts) - 5 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio
@CadenceV2

@ghost_rider1: I dont want to sound cocky at all..... however I do believe Zarathos could beat SS. I believe vice versa as well. Seriously Thor beaten SS many times and Zarathos could well defeat Thor.

Here are some fun facts. Zarathos can beat Hell lords. Hell Lords have many times proven beyond Silver Surfer. Zarathos is as powerful (if not more so) then Nobel Kale who became Hell Lord over Mephisto Realm. Hell Zarathos beaten Null the Living Void who is a minor Abstract as well Death it self in Deaths own game.

My point is Zarathos should damn well be able to hang with the Herald of Galactus.

I agree. They are both extremly powerful characters while fighting at their best. I'm inclined to say zarathos would win a majority but I wanna know what other ppl think
#4 Posted by Malevolent1 (1072 posts) - 5 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

Tough to call. Zarathos, eh?

50/50 maybe? I'm really not sure on this one.

#5 Posted by *Void* (874 posts) - 5 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

Tough one. I'd say Zarathos 7.5 out of 10.

#6 Posted by Killemall (13556 posts) - 5 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

@ghost_rider1: I dont want to sound cocky at all..... however I do believe Zarathos could beat SS. I believe vice versa as well. Seriously Thor beaten SS many times and Zarathos could well defeat Thor.

Here are some fun facts. Zarathos can beat Hell lords. Hell Lords have many times proven beyond Silver Surfer. Zarathos is as powerful (if not more so) then Nobel Kale who became Hell Lord over Mephisto Realm. Hell Zarathos beaten Null the Living Void who is a minor Abstract as well Death it self in Deaths own game.

My point is Zarathos should damn well be able to hang with the Herald of Galactus.

Apart from Thor: Blood and Thunder Thor certainly hasnt beaten Silver Surfer to the best of my knoweledge, and an amped up Surfer got the better of Thor the first time they met, and Surfer beat Thor 2 out of 2 in What If (totally non canon) and the other fights they have had, which are only 1 more that i know of, was a stalemate, as both stopped fighting after Odin headbutted Galactus and both fell on earth, one knocked out the other got back up and healed.

Would you happen to have scans, or issue number where Thor has beaten Surfer?

I dont think Surfer an win Zarathos, he did kill Lucifer with 1/2 his powers that not a feat Surfer can match. Surfer obviously feels guilt so penance should work on him. The Thor vs Surfer part is something i am finding hard to understand.

#7 Posted by GhostRider2 (1637 posts) - 5 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

@Malevolent1 said:

Tough to call. Zarathos, eh?

50/50 maybe? I'm really not sure on this one.

Big maybe, anyway a morals off SS would own Thor.I go with GR because i don't think SS can put him down.

#8 Posted by .Riddick. (632 posts) - 5 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

It's going to be a marginal slide. However manages to get lucky first, I think.

#9 Posted by CadenceV2 (9951 posts) - 5 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@CadenceV2 said:

@ghost_rider1: I dont want to sound cocky at all..... however I do believe Zarathos could beat SS. I believe vice versa as well. Seriously Thor beaten SS many times and Zarathos could well defeat Thor.

Here are some fun facts. Zarathos can beat Hell lords. Hell Lords have many times proven beyond Silver Surfer. Zarathos is as powerful (if not more so) then Nobel Kale who became Hell Lord over Mephisto Realm. Hell Zarathos beaten Null the Living Void who is a minor Abstract as well Death it self in Deaths own game.

My point is Zarathos should damn well be able to hang with the Herald of Galactus.

Apart from Thor: Blood and Thunder Thor certainly hasnt beaten Silver Surfer to the best of my knoweledge, and an amped up Surfer got the better of Thor the first time they met, and Surfer beat Thor 2 out of 2 in What If (totally non canon) and the other fights they have had, which are only 1 more that i know of, was a stalemate, as both stopped fighting after Odin headbutted Galactus and both fell on earth, one knocked out the other got back up and healed.

Would you happen to have scans, or issue number where Thor has beaten Surfer?

I dont think Surfer an win Zarathos, he did kill Lucifer with 1/2 his powers that not a feat Surfer can match. Surfer obviously feels guilt so penance should work on him. The Thor vs Surfer part is something i am finding hard to understand.

I heard Thor beat Surfer that Time when Odin mixed it up with Galactus. I also thought Thor beaten Surfer sometime in the Infinity Gauntlet storyline.

#10 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 5 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

Zarathos

#11 Edited by Killemall (13556 posts) - 5 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

I heard Thor beat Surfer that Time when Odin mixed it up with Galactus.

No they didnt it was a stalemate, they stopped after they realised Galactus and Odin fell to earth, here is the full fight.

I also thought Thor beaten Surfer sometime in the Infinity Gauntlet storyline.

They never fought during Infinity Gauntlet saga, why would they even fight, after all IG saga was all about Thanos being a god, and an assemblage of Marvel heroes (both Thor and Surfer included, and it was Erik Masterson as Thor rather than our bonafied Thor) and cosmic abstract who fought against Thanos, then shortly agaisnt Nebula. They never fought each other during that Saga.

#12 Posted by ghost_rider1 (2640 posts) - 5 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio
@Killemall

Thor has beaten surfer before....at one point thor went mad and almost killed beta ray bill. Surfer jumped into the fight to stop thor and he too was almost killed
#13 Posted by whydama (1093 posts) - 5 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@ghost_rider1 said:

@Killemall Thor has beaten surfer before....at one point thor went mad and almost killed beta ray bill. Surfer jumped into the fight to stop thor and he too was almost killed

Warrior madness + power gem thor is hardly a thor.

#14 Posted by Malevolent1 (1072 posts) - 5 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@GhostRider2 said:

@Malevolent1 said:

Tough to call. Zarathos, eh?

50/50 maybe? I'm really not sure on this one.

Big maybe, anyway a morals off SS would own Thor.I go with GR because i don't think SS can put him down.

Yeah. You might be right. The Rider is traditionally very difficult to harm...Zarathos Rider was a BEAST...now that I think about it, penance stare SHOULD work on a guy who killed billions while serving Galactus.

#15 Posted by Killemall (13556 posts) - 5 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@ghost_rider1 said:

@Killemall Thor has beaten surfer before....at one point thor went mad and almost killed beta ray bill. Surfer jumped into the fight to stop thor and he too was almost killed

I know, but CadenceV2 said many times, and that was during Blood and Thunder story arc as i mentioned on my first post. Apart from the said story arc he has never beaten Surfer, at least not to my knowledge.

#16 Posted by CadenceV2 (9951 posts) - 5 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@ghost_rider1 said:

@Killemall Thor has beaten surfer before....at one point thor went mad and almost killed beta ray bill. Surfer jumped into the fight to stop thor and he too was almost killed

I know, but CadenceV2 said many times, and that was during Blood and Thunder story arc as i mentioned on my first post. Apart from the said story arc he has never beaten Surfer, at least not to my knowledge.

I guess I was wrong. The Warrior Madness Power Gem Thor is the one I remember and thought it was from IG Story.

#17 Posted by Killemall (13556 posts) - 5 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

I guess I was wrong. The Warrior Madness Power Gem Thor is the one I remember and thought it was from IG Story.

Fair enough its easy to get mixed up. Although Thor did not have the power gem when he beat Surfer the first time around during the same story arc, only warrior madness (which itself is little arguable), and the second time they fought with power gem, Silver Surfer has allies with him i.e. Dr. Strange, Moondragon, Drax, Maxim, Gamora and Pip the troll, and the group still lost but that is somewhat understandable, since power gem actually gives you the power of a god. The only one who held his own against him, although for a short time was out beloved old Thanos.

#18 Posted by Omniscience (161 posts) - 3 months, 12 days ago - Show Bio

OmniSurfers @Killemall said:

@CadenceV2 said:

I heard Thor beat Surfer that Time when Odin mixed it up with Galactus.

No they didnt it was a stalemate, they stopped after they realised Galactus and Odin fell to earth, here is the full fight.

I also thought Thor beaten Surfer sometime in the Infinity Gauntlet storyline.

They never fought during Infinity Gauntlet saga, why would they even fight, after all IG saga was all about Thanos being a god, and an assemblage of Marvel heroes (both Thor and Surfer included, and it was Erik Masterson as Thor rather than our bonafied Thor) and cosmic abstract who fought against Thanos, then shortly agaisnt Nebula. They never fought each other during that Saga.

Surfer gets the girl. He wins.

Omniscience.

#19 Posted by Alyssabird (1364 posts) - 3 months, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Thor clearly had the upperhand in that brawl.

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