Silver Surfer vs. Flash

@don_quixote: Yeah, so post your opinion on the thread other than complaining.

@awesomedude: How about you all calm down instead?

Flash is faster than Silver Surfer but I don't think he has what it takes to bring SS down. IMP might work... but Flash wouldn't use that in the beginning of their fight.

6/10 Surfer.

@shadowhuntr: Speed Steal.

@awesomedude: can you state an instance where speed steal worked on someone with high level energy manipulation.

Surfer

You are behaving like a 5 year old.

@don_quixote: O really?

@thanosii: Amazo.

@awesomedude: Now you just losing your credibility dude. Let's educate you

Amazo is an Android capable of copying powers, yes he copied the JLA but none of them are energy manipulators and get didn't have theirs experience with their powers.

So again please give me an example were Flash speed stole an energy manipulator.

Btw you the guy who thinks Flash can beat Franklin Richards and axman, right????

@thanosii: I know, he copied a bunch of KINETIC ENERGY from Superman, WW, Flash, GL, MMH, and he would definitely beat Surfer. + Wally speed stole the freaking Earth.

Flash can beat Axman (Who the hell is he?), and he can maybe at best blitz Franklin Richards. But he'll lose most of the time.

O yeah, you were the guy saying Runner is faster than Flash and compared comic art to real life physics and science.

Yes really.

Just please don't quote me back anymore.

Flash solos

@awesomedude: first of all I'm not the guy who said Runner is faster than Flash that's lie number one

and Amazo beating Surfer doesn't make him an energy manipulator that's lie number two

Thirdly a reality warper doesn't conform to time hence can't be blitzed so that's lie number Three.

How old are you?

@thanosii: You said it yourself.

You also compared comic boom art to science.

Amazo has more Kinetic Energy that Surfer, and Flash can speed steal him, he also speed stole the Earth.

What the hell is "comform". Franklin Richards still needs to react, so Wally can at least win 2-3 battles out of 10 with him.

@don_quixote: The same can be said with you, complaining about old posts that are highly ignored.

who bumped this? we already know the the creator of this is a fanboy from his first two posts and we already know that the flash is going to win so cant we stop this stop this and let this thread die in peace?

Flash perceives the world in attoseconds. Doesn't it make his life a little boring as a human being? I mean, how tedious it would feel when it is taking decades for water to hit the glass and you are thirsty? Or simply turning off the channel when there is Kristen Stewart's face on the television!

Here's what the crossover cover would look like:

@mad_titan: dude lol...that just...hilarious...

@highaccuser:

No, you just don't what your talking about. Thanos is definitely mysticaly powered. Any of his bios will tell you this.

Doom can take pretty much anyone 1vs1. Even guys like Galactus and pre retconn Beyonder. Surfer and Wally are a joke in comparison to Doom.

Quasar is more powerful than SS, its a known fact in marvel comics.

What does Black Panther have to do with this? Unless your talking about that time when SS a was just playing along by allowing himself to get armbared for an alterier motive.

@blh726:

Of course he would. Hes the Flash (Wally)

Mystically enhanced. His blows are not mystic. @killemall can confirm a believe.

Dodging the point here.

Surfer already beat Quasar and has much better feats.

BP didn't win with an armbar, he won by draining.

What about thor and kyle? They're weaker but they drained him.

Even if Surfer can resist being drained(he can't), he'd still be cut off from all kinetic energy in the multiverse. He's not drained, he's cut off. And energy manipulation has never stopped a speed steal before.

SS

@highaccuser:

It doesn't matter if you believe it. Thanos abilities are mysticaly enhanced in general, try reading his bio.

BP drained SS? I didn't know BP was an energy manipulator LMAO.

Kyle? Do you mean the lantern? When in Canon have they fought each other.? I seen SS demolish a green lantern in a crossover. SS won that fight. I don't know what your talking about.

There is nothing to dodge here.

SS is Galactus lite. SS has all the exact same abilities Galactus has but on a smaller scale. Energy control and manipulation is both SS and Galactus specialty .

I've read numerous Thanos stories. He is mystically enhanced, but his punches aren't like captain marvels.

He used Dooms tech.

It was canon. Parallax referenced it later. Doesn't matter who won, it shows that someone with less raw power drained Surfer.

That's not an argument.

This is an eternal debate.

It can be argued surfer can change speed steal via matter manip and one shot wally with one good hit, or simply constrict him with his on molecules

but it also can be argued flash wil doo 1 billion

tillion

quadilion

Zextillion

IMP's within a nanosecond and turn surfer into a fine silvery paste

despite the fact surfer can regenerate from that

@highaccuser:

What's that! !!!! What's that! !!!!

Are you admitting how much of a badass Dr.Doom is?!?! You may want to repeat that a few more times to yourself until you understand just how unstoppable Dr Doom really is! I've already told you that Doom can defeat almost anyone you can think of 1v1 and you just proved my point for me.

Regarding Thanos punches, they are mystical in nature because he is a mysticaly enhanced being . You can't stop SS physically any other way. You can even destroy SS body he will simply reform himself.

How does using Doom tech prove your point about Kyle or BP defeating SS anyway? Kyle or BP or whoever your talking about had help from Dr Doom who can pretty much do anything in the first place.

It's never been stated Thanos has magic amped blows. And what about Thing and Hulk? They hurt Sufer. Are their punches magic? He doesn't need to kill Surfer.

You're overrating Doom, and the point is Sufer couldn't resist draining. It's an example.

Kyle and Thor and Quasar and a lot of other people drained Surfer despite being weaker WITHOUT any help. How about this: When has Surfer ever resisted draining?

@jagernutt: SS v Kyle was fan voted. No surprises how the story turned out.

Doom can't really take on anyone powerful without serious prep. Even then he relies on his other tech not himself to do so.

SS doesn't have the same abilities as Big G. Yes they both possess matter and energy control but Big G still has more abilities that he wouldn't give to any of his heralds as a precaution.

@highaccuser:

Since when have Hulk or Thing actually hurt SS(besides just knocking him around) ? Neither one of can hurt SS in any meaningful way, stop making baseless claims.

Both Thor and Thanos are mystical beings so no suprise that they can give SS problems. Thanos probably even more so than Thor since he can toe to toe against Odin. It doesn't have to be stated explicitly that his punches are mystical enhanced when his feats speak for themself.

You just stated that it was Doom who defeated SS not Kyle(stop giving Kyle credit for a Doom feat). So no im nowhere close to overeating Doom when his feats are among the top of the tier in Marvel universe. Stealing Galactus power more than once, stealing Pre Retconn Beyonders power.

@jagernutt:

I'm not seeing the point in this. You clearly don't know what I'm trying to say. I'm done with this thread.

@highaccuser:

I dont get whats not to understand?

Physical force cant put down SS, he will reform himself.

You can't rob energy from him unless you can better manipulate energy than him whether it be tech or magic or just plain more powerful, it has to be one of those reasons.

And I've listed reasons why all that's true.

And I've expained why it's untrue. Don't tag me now.

flash fanatics on the rampage haha hilarious SS is just to much for little old speedster they probebly think flash can speed steel even the presence and become masters of the omniverse too

YUP:

Speaking of rules, please refrain from insulting people like this. If you can't debate without making things personal and getting aggressive, then don't debate.

Wally wins.

@don_quixote: @thanosii: @shadowhuntr:

Try not to argue with awesomedude..

For one, he will never change his mind on his opinion no matter what.. that itself should ring your ignorance alarms.

When you debunk his points he'll turn to insulting you.. another ignorant trait.

Call him out on all of this? He'll insult you even more n add a 'no one cares'

@shamo: I already aplied your tactic and ignored him a while ago.

Just read mercy's post.. why am I not surprised..

Bump

@jagernutt: Why are you still bumping this?

This needs to die.

@reaverlation:

This thread easily rates among the most the most entertaining.

Bump

@don_quixote: @shamo: way ahead of you already ignoring him

Flash steals his surf board

GG SS

Silver Surfer. Why? Power Cosmic.

Flash. Why? Speed Force.