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#1 Posted by Gottheit (3473 posts) - - Show Bio

Green Lantern makes a road for Flash, from one end of the universe to the other, and Silver Surfer is next to him, flying on his surfboard. Surfer cannot fly higher then Flash can jump, and both men are allowed to phase through obstacles. Green Lantern is not allowed to hinder Surfer or help Flash with anything but the surface to run on, and Surfer and Flash are not allowed to attack each other. It is a race, from one end of the universe to the other. Who wins?

#2 Posted by Zenma (4970 posts) - - Show Bio

Gottheit says:

"Green Lantern makes a road for Flash, from one end of the universe to the other, and Silver Surfer is next to him, flying on his surfboard. Surfer cannot fly higher then Flash can jump, and both men are allowed to phase through obstacles. Green Lantern is not allowed to hinder Surfer or help Flash with anything but the surface to run on, and Surfer and Flash are not allowed to attack each other. It is a race, from one end of the universe to the other. Who wins?"

silver surfer he can go to speed of light, and flash will tire out

#3 Posted by Mighty Thorion (797 posts) - - Show Bio

Barry Allen could also travel at the speed of light, so he would have given the Surfer a real run for his money. Even so, he would eventually tire out - as Zenma says Wally would - and the Surfer would win.

#4 Posted by TheSinisterMissMort (272 posts) - - Show Bio

The Surfer can travel faster than light.

#5 Posted by Zenma (4970 posts) - - Show Bio

TheSinisterMissMort says:

"The Surfer can travel faster than light."

that may be true, but either way the flash will wear out and the surfer will win

#6 Posted by ulitmateninjagaidenx (2064 posts) - - Show Bio

silver surfer would win, about time flash lose.

#7 Posted by Gottheit (3473 posts) - - Show Bio

Cool. I thought so.

#8 Posted by T.J. Magnum (27685 posts) - - Show Bio

well flash can do alot of things,but he can't beat SS
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#9 Posted by King Saturn (223834 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer should win here. I dont think The Flash can handle the power cosmic

#10 Posted by Ball Buster (2041 posts) - - Show Bio

SS wins.

#11 Posted by NEW VENOM (926 posts) - - Show Bio

the surfer

#12 Posted by Sasuke (397 posts) - - Show Bio

WTF man W T F! i know SS is fast but come on this is the flash in a RACE, his main power is to run. being backed by the speed force don't see him tiering out and that was the only way i saw SS wining.

#13 Posted by Superboy-Prime 10000 (402 posts) - - Show Bio

TheSinisterMissMort says:

"The Surfer can travel faster than light."

Through Hyperspace.

#14 Posted by Noir_Dark (861 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't these guys have lives to save?

#15 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Since no Flash was specified, i field Black Flash for this race...

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#16 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio

When has the flash ever tired out? examples please.

#17 Posted by Garison (2645 posts) - - Show Bio

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#18 Posted by Resonate (15054 posts) - - Show Bio

#19 Posted by DRDOOMSDAY390 (1255 posts) - - Show Bio

(((silver surfer wins))) (((TOO BAD FLASH)))

#20 Posted by speedlgt (2109 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah I would like some examples of the flash getting tired (wally)

untill we see some scans...all the marvel zombies need to take it down a NOTCH!

#21 Posted by meta knight (113 posts) - - Show Bio

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#22 Posted by Logic Mark III (2121 posts) - - Show Bio

Well the flash has to eat and drink right? I remember back in the day when he and Supes raced he needed to have refreshments and by the end of it [a race around our globe not THE UNIVERSE as in this thread]he was pooped. Plus the Surfer is just that much faster [i dont know if it is specified he is faster than light only in hyperspace, regardless it doesnt say he cant access it, and im sure he could keep up light speed far longer for the reasons stated above.]

#23 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Logic Mark III says:

"Well the flash has to eat and drink right?"

only to stay alive, not for his energy requirements, the Speed Force provides all the energy he needs to run now, unlike older versions where he had a supercharged metabolism because of it and had to eat tons...

Logic Mark III says:

"Plus the Surfer is just that much faster [i dont know if it is specified he is faster than light only in hyperspace, regardless it doesnt say he cant access it, and im sure he could keep up light speed far longer for the reasons stated above.]"

It is specified in the comics that the only way SS can go faster than light is in Hyperspace... Gladiator is the same...

Flash doesn't have to enter hyperspace to go faster than light, but even so this race would take millions of years and Flash would die of old age before it was finished, while i believe Silver Surfer doesn't age, so he would win by default.

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#24 Posted by speedlgt (2109 posts) - - Show Bio

well that defines a "cheap" win, you ll die of age thus I win.

LOL thats just Great!

#25 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

it's true though...

Our Sun is 30,000 light years from the center of the Milky Way Galaxy... So, the light that we see coming from our Milky Way Galaxy's center, left there 30,000 years ago... The known Universe contains at least 1,000,000 billion of other Galaxies...

The circumference would measure approximately to be 2pi times R (radius), where R = (50,000 light years). The circumference is as calculated 314,000 light years.

so using the standard equation Time = Distance / Speed, giving them both an avarage of the Speed of Light, since this is the fastest Silver Surfer can travel without entering Hyperspace (299,792,458 M/S)

One Light Year is 5,878,625,373,183.61 miles

Time = Distance / Speed

Time = 5,878,625,373,183.61 / 299,792,458

gives the answer 19,608.983,536,148,898,048,662,718,526,428

rounded up because we're working in such huge numbers lol

19,608.983

So traveling at the speed of light, it would take both the Silver Surfer and Flash over 19 thousand 6 hundred years, just to run around our galaxy...

now there are over 1,000,000 billion galaxies that have been 'named', so even if we only used them for this race we have...

19,608.983 years for one galaxy

19,608.983 X 1,000,000,000,000,000 = ahh, hell, you get the idea... we're talking billions, upon billions of years, even at the speed of light...

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#26 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

oh, just incase anyone was trying to work out the final distance, that's not including the space between galaxies...

so multiply the final answer by 10 to 15 as galaxies tend to be spread out quite a bit, then you'll get your final length of time it would take... if the number will even fit on a calculator lol

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#27 Posted by Logic Mark III (2121 posts) - - Show Bio

i feel tired just reading that man...allow running it.

#28 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

I think, with the length of time involved here, it's safe to assume that the final length of time for this race would be about 2 or 3 times the current age of the universe...

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#29 Posted by Gottheit (3473 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, suppose Flash was kept alive, and fed. There is no way to exit this race, except to cross the finish line. It doesn't matter how long that takes.

#30 Posted by Flash Is The Best (112 posts) - - Show Bio

I dont like how this question was worded. it should be like a race around the world like how flash did against superman. A race that long would tire anyone out. but if it was a race length something reasonable Flash would win. if it was a race around Earth flash would win. but at that long of a distance that would take FOREVER TO FINISH i dont think nobody would win.

#31 Posted by Archdevil (378 posts) - - Show Bio

FLASH!

#32 Posted by Gottheit (3473 posts) - - Show Bio

You know, I really don't think Flash could take Surfer in terms of speed. Call me crazy. I think they would at least be even.

#33 Posted by zee crusher (8997 posts) - - Show Bio

Superboy-Prime 10000 says:

"TheSinisterMissMort says:
"The Surfer can travel faster than light."

Through Hyperspace."

No he just uses it. When he fought durok he didn't use hyperspace and traveled faster then the speed of light. Either way Surfer wins this. At one time when flash went above light speed something use to happen to him.

#34 Posted by zee crusher (8997 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash Is The Best says:

"I dont like how this question was worded. it should be like a race around the world like how flash did against superman. A race that long would tire anyone out. but if it was a race length something reasonable Flash would win. if it was a race around Earth flash would win. but at that long of a distance that would take FOREVER TO FINISH i dont think nobody would win. "

Around the world surfer would win that way easier then flash. He can turn intangible. Flash can do but at the rate hes running hes gonna be doing alot of dodging. For him to turn intangible would take to much time. Any other race surfer would still win to.

#35 Edited by Scarecrow4 (480 posts) - - Show Bio



Flash Stomps

#36 Posted by iLLituracy (13537 posts) - - Show Bio

Someone PLEASE explain to me how the Flash could take the Silver Surfer.

#37 Posted by TruePwnge (2764 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer stomps

and anyway if this was a race, Surfer is faster than the Flash

#38 Posted by Scarecrow4 (480 posts) - - Show Bio

Please Explain to me how the Surfer could beat the flash who by the way can outrun death!!  Surfer can't even get close to him he's far to slow

#39 Posted by castleking (24119 posts) - - Show Bio

omni bast instant win for SS..

#40 Posted by Akwa (4821 posts) - - Show Bio
Scarecrow4 said:
Please Explain to me how the Surfer could beat the flash who by the way can outrun death!!  Surfer can't ... [more]

Surfer is faster than Flash.
#41 Edited by Scarecrow4 (480 posts) - - Show Bio

No he's not he travels around in space without gravity woohoo! I can toss a rock and it will go fast in a weight free environment.   But put him on earth against the Flash and he will get SPANKED!! I don't think he'll make it 100 feet on his little board before the flash laps him.  Silver Surfer is not a GOD everyone thinks this guy is untouchable and i don't understand why!!  Then the best answer i get is " Um hello Cosmic POWER!!" Woopty friggin doo da.  What even is that "The Power of everything Cosmic!" Well the Flash has the SPEED FORCE which is like the POWER COSMIC only nothing but SPEED!!!! Flash Stomps surfer into the DUST and then Giggles as he goes about his life helping all the citizens of the DC universe.

#42 Edited by TruePwnge (2764 posts) - - Show Bio

If Surfer gets of his board and races Flash on foot maybe then Flash has a chance but in any other battle Surfer stomps


Surfer is way, way faster than the Flash


Surfer wins easy


Hulk getting owned with a slap

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(when if ever has Apocalypse owned Hulk with a pimp slap??)


Uses Phasing ability and moves through walls, makes his board vanish into energy and then remakes his board in his hand




.Telekenetic powers raises a spaceship




Defeats the Skrull Champion


Destroys Wonder Man





 What Surfer's cosmic awareness would look like

Analyzes the situation in a microsecond and in even less time travels light years




Beats Mxy-style Imp called Impossible Man

Holding back almost kills Ironman

FTL reflexes, Surfer uses his speed blitz ability to out speed the Ego entity and rescue a helpless destroyed fleet of aliens
using the energy of his board in an instant he physically transports them light years away from Ego


Takes Ironman's best punch, it doesn't even faze him

Intangible, Can Phase Through walls, glass etc


Causes Jack of Hearts to experience extreme levels of pain

Shrinks himself so he can enter a micro verse



Fixes Metropolis who Mxy had shurnk to microverse levels, Surfer defeats Mxyzptlk and restores the city to normal size




Destroys Cable (who had been amped up to god-like levels)


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Silver Surfer defeats Valkyrie

Telekenetic ability to lift a large box, doesn't need a marker to write


Defeats Namor - UNDER WATER !




Surfer can absorb or reflect a near infinite level of energy


Surfer beats the very powerful Kree Ronan the Accuser


#43 Posted by freetherunner (1 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gottheit:
did you all forget that Wally West has mainlined with the speedforce? I mean the dude can over 13 times the speed of light (universe  was never mentions so i'm gonna guess this takes place on a neutral    universe), also nobody said Flash had to run that fast the whole lenght of the race, he can rest (the speed force allows any Flash's body to move and heal faster. how do you think he does infinite mass punch without getting hurt?) only problem I see is how flash is gonna breath. other then that I see no reason why Flash cannot win this.
#44 Posted by Hellos (8898 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gottheit said:
"

Green Lantern makes a road for Flash, from one end of the universe to the other, and Silver Surfer is next to him, flying on his surfboard. Surfer cannot fly higher then Flash can jump, and both men are allowed to phase through obstacles. Green Lantern is not allowed to hinder Surfer or help Flash with anything but the surface to run on, and Surfer and Flash are not allowed to attack each other. It is a race, from one end of the universe to the other. Who wins?

"

Read this, the Surfer wizzes past Galaxies, ofcourse he wins this race, he could win it if it was on a planet just as easily.
#45 Posted by Donovan Montgomery (5416 posts) - - Show Bio
@TruePwnge: 
 
Dude, you only neede the one scan of Surfer searching the Earth before his team mates could finish their sentence. 
Of course I can't find it right now eather, lol 
 : ^|
#46 Posted by MKF30 (11635 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not convinced Surfer can go faster or as fast as "Flash in Speed Force"
#47 Posted by Th3 FlAsH 123 (616 posts) - - Show Bio
@MKF30 said:
"I'm not convinced Surfer can go faster or as fast as "Flash in Speed Force" "
#48 Posted by yodagod (2285 posts) - - Show Bio
@MKF30:
@Th3 FlAsH 123:
@freetherunner:
If Flash travels 13 times the speed of light, then he's at least 30,000 times too slow since Surfer can travel over 400,000 times the speed of light (conservative estimate).  Surfer also searched the entire planet and all six billion people in less than a second, that is many time faster than light.  He didn't just circle the planet, but actively searched every square inch and every single individual. Surfer wins this and he does it easily.  Especially since the op doesn't disallow hyperspace and in that Surfer can practically go as fast as he wants.
#49 Posted by FLCL1 (9580 posts) - - Show Bio

SS
#50 Posted by negamegas (311 posts) - - Show Bio
@TruePwnge:
Yeah, that Superman word bubble is photoshoped. :P 
 
@ulitmateninjagaidenx:
You suck. :P     
 
Well.... Surfer has yet to shown the ability to go through other dimensions or back or foward in time.  Course this depends on which flash too. 
 
You know, I remember seeing a scan of a Silver Surfer vs Flash comic on a DC vs Marvel mugen.  Lemme see if I can find it.