Silver Surfer Vs Flash - Battles

#1 Posted by The Silver Surfer (23 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Battle: Silver Surfer Vs Wonder Woman

#2 Posted by The Silver Surfer (23 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

surferwill win flash might be able to very fast but can he top surfers speed at flight.if you seen the trailer of surfers movie how he grabs human torch and takes him up to space if that hapens to flash hes done.
Post Edited:2007-03-24 15:03:14

#3 Posted by Buckshot (18282 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

No one is faster than Flash.

EDIT: Except maybe Zoom and Black Flash.
Post Edited:2007-03-24 15:08:00

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#4 Posted by The Silver Surfer (23 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

true but flash wont get a hit if surfers stays flying all the time

#5 Posted by Boken (7756 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

neither would surfer.

#6 Posted by Methos (40100 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

i'm on side with Buckshot here, the flash has a upper speed over the speed of light...

as for Buck's edit...

Zoom wasn't quicker than Wally as the flash... Wally was just afraid that by using his powers to that extreme level he would replace his uncle, he finally got over that fear and kicked Zoom's ass...

as for the black flash... don't think anyone, not even the flash can outrun death

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#7 Posted by Boken (7756 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

methos got a point.

#8 Posted by Methos (40100 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

The Silver Surfer says:

"surferwill win flash might be able to very fast but can he top surfers speed at flight.if you seen the trailer of surfers movie how he grabs human torch and takes him up to space if that hapens to flash hes done.
Post Edited:2007-03-24 15:03:14"

yeah but the same could be said for the flash...

all he has to do it accelarate into the speed force and throw surfer into it... no one (exept wally) has ever returned from the speed force, not even previous flash's

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#9 Posted by Boken (7756 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

then what if it's wally whose verseing surfer.

#10 Posted by Methos (40100 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

hmmm goodpoint...

each flash has their own unique abilities...

go on surfer, tell us who we're batting for

M

#11 Posted by Boken (7756 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

ya this is getting annoying. i need to know who it is so i can pitch an arguement.

#12 Posted by speed (550 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

methos says:

"i'm on side with Buckshot here, the flash has a upper speed over the speed of light... as for Buck's edit... Zoom wasn't quicker than Wally as the flash... Wally was just afraid that by using his powers to that extreme level he would replace his uncle, he finally got over that fear and kicked Zoom's ass... as for the black flash... don't think anyone, not even the flash can outrun death M "

i remeber flash was about to die but he outran death

#13 Posted by speed (550 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Buckshot says:

"No one is faster than Flash. EDIT: Except maybe Zoom and Black Flash.
Post Edited:2007-03-24 15:08:00"

what about the runner

#14 Posted by Fourpower (R.I.P) (2021 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Silver Surfer can rearrange matter. This isn't even close.

#15 Posted by speed (550 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

whiel hes slows time and uses superspeed

#16 Posted by Buckshot (18282 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

He's going to be rearranging Flash's matter while taking thousands of punches that have the force of a star? Or while he's trapped in the speed force?

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#17 Posted by Fourpower (R.I.P) (2021 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Silver Surfer can melt Flash into jelly in half a second. This is not a fair fight.

#18 Posted by Methos (40100 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

to a man who moves at aprox 4 times the speed of light (That's where the speed force is supposed to exist accorsing to DC comics... so the speed of light is 186,000 miles per second... so that flash's top speed is 744,000 miles per second)

half of that... 148,000 miles per second for silver surfer to turn him into jelly...

how many punches can he throw at that speed in that half second?

enough to completely oblitorate surfer anyway...

and that's enough math for one day ;)

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#19 Posted by V (295 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Flash is one of the most underrated characters in comics, with his speed, he can hang with any of the big guns in either company.

#20 Posted by Fourpower (R.I.P) (2021 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

methos says:

"to a man who moves at aprox 4 times the speed of light (That's where the speed force is supposed to exist accorsing to DC comics... so the speed of light is 186,000 miles per second... so that flash's top speed is 744,000 miles per second)half of that... 148,000 miles per second for silver surfer to turn him into jelly...how many punches can he throw at that speed in that half second?enough to completely oblitorate surfer anyway...and that's enough math for one day ;)M"

New word for today-it's called hyperbole. That means you overstate things to make a point. It's like saying, "I'm bored to death." You're not really gonna die cuz' you're so bored. It's hyperbole. Silver Surfer has broken lightspeed. He's not that slow. He's also NEARLY COMPLETELY INDESTRUCTIBLE. Besides, he could make it so Flash never existed, or detonated where they were. He'd survive. Flash wouldn't. Silver Surfer vs. Superman or Green Lantern, not so sure about.
Post Edited:2007-03-24 19:34:27

#21 Posted by Buckshot (18282 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Even if you don't believe he's 4x the speed of light, he's still faster than light. But you know, it really doesn't matter how fast Surfer goes. Flash can give and take speed like it's a Christmas gift. If he doesn't want Surfer to move, he won't. People toss around "indestructible" like it still means something. Surfer's been knocked around by hits with less force than a star, so thousands of them at once are really gonna throw him for a loop. That's not really important though since Flash can just throw him in the speed force and leave him there.

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Post Edited:2007-03-24 20:13:48

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#22 Posted by Methos (40100 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

lol love that pic :)

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#23 Posted by Sync (960 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

its speed vs cosmic powers

"imo" cosmic powers beat speed force

who to say surfer cant use speed force powers "imo" they fall dead within COSMIC POWERS

Does not silver surfer have cosmic awareness, will that not warn him/ help/ all together eldued flash?

drain speed, thats like flash draining The living triubal if keeping in content of the statment of him draining surfler powers/speed from a earlier post(speed of not powers)

That means he has to touch the surfer to drain powers?

In doing so giving surfer a chance

"Imo" i feel that surfer would just pop back from out the speed force

#24 Posted by The Silver Surfer (23 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

V.s Flash:Sorry, the SUrfer is faster than the Flash, with the power of the universe at his command. Once you take away his speed, Wally is just a guy. G'night, Wally. VS.

SUPERMAN: While Supes might land a couple of blows as the Surfer is trying to talk to him, our bald buddy Norrin could either hammer Supes into submission with the power cosmic or suck all the solar energy out of him with his energy manipulation powers. VS.

HULK: The Hulk may be physically stronger than the Surfer, but c'mon, our boy Norrin would never let the Hulk get near him. He'd zip up on the Hulk at near-lightspeed, unleash just a fraction of the power cosmic and, when the Hulk came to at the bottom of the smoking crater a couple days later, the Surfer'd be done kicking the crap out of the rest of the heros on this list.
Post Edited:2007-03-25 08:51:29

#25 Posted by Methos (40100 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

hmmmm convicing arguments... allow me to echange views

Vs Flash

Wally could either suck the speed / momentum out of surfer, leaving his completely frozen in space and time without the ability to have any movement at all or would accelorate into the speed force and trap surfer there... my money's on Flash for this one...

Vs Superman

hmm... tough one to call... Surfers strong, but is he that strong? supes could stay out of the way and blast him with heat vision or superbreath, freazing him or burning him.

bit of a close call but my money is on superman for that one...

Vs Hulk

would depend on the battle ground... if there are weapons Hulk could use then money's on the hulk, if not it's a easy win for sufer

M

#26 Posted by Ebony Bishop (767 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

I think what needs to be established is, where are they fighting?

The Speed Force cannot be accessed in the Marvel universe, but Surfer still has all his powers in the DC universe. So in the Marvel universe, Flash would bleed power like crazy, and couldn't even outrun Quicksilver. Advantage: Surfer.

#27 Posted by Sync (960 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

hmm on the hulk

it he hit the hulk and it does not kill him he gets that much tougher, maybe if he turns him into a rock surfer may win

but pound for pound i see hulk slowly gaining the upper hand

sups

again it is not known how fast the surfer is

and i do not think heat vison or breath might help sups

but sups had done crazy thing at many times in the comics and movies and if he has access to use or due those things than sups wins

but whats to stop surfer from turning into kyponite or making it, thats if surfer knows about it???

#28 Posted by speed (550 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

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#30 Posted by speed (550 posts) - 6 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

The Silver Surfer says:

" V.s Flash:Sorry, the SUrfer is faster than the Flash, with the power of the universe at his command. Once you take away his speed, Wally is just a guy. G'night, Wally. VS. SUPERMAN: While Supes might land a couple of blows as the Surfer is trying to talk to him, our bald buddy Norrin could either hammer Supes into submission with the power cosmic or suck all the solar energy out of him with his energy manipulation powers. VS. HULK: The Hulk may be physically stronger than the Surfer, but c'mon, our boy Norrin would never let the Hulk get near him. He'd zip up on the Hulk at near-lightspeed, unleash just a fraction of the power cosmic and, when the Hulk came to at the bottom of the smoking crater a couple days later, the Surfer'd be done kicking the crap out of the rest of the heros on this list.
Post Edited:2007-03-25 08:51:29"

u got that from wizards top 10

#31 Posted by VIZION2011 (1675 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Sorry guys i know im new into comics but im having a hard time beleiving that speed can trump the power cosmic. Yes Flash can his hit wit h a millions of punches at the blink of an I. But woudnt surfer just absorb his powers while he's punching? or just even take his powers away and kill him. Im not trying to be smart just lookin for a little understanding sence ima newbe and all

#32 Posted by SeSAW (3677 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

VIZION2010 said:

"Sorry guys i know im new into comics but im having a hard time beleiving that speed can trump the power cosmic. Yes Flash can his hit wit h a millions of punches at the blink of an I. But woudnt surfer just absorb his powers while he's punching? or just even take his powers away and kill him. Im not trying to be smart just lookin for a little understanding sence ima newbe and all"

Speed dont trump PC. And SUrfer is faster than Flash anyway and Ive proved it hundreds of times, with scans people just ignor it.

#33 Posted by VIZION2011 (1675 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Oh....OK! Im happy to do that until provin other wise

#34 Posted by High Revolutionary (3157 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Fourpower (R.I.P) said:

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Silver Surfer can melt Flash into jelly in half a second. This is not a fair fight.
"

Agreed.

Stick your fingers in your ears, then stick them in your belly. Don't be afraid if it jiggles like Jelly.

#35 Posted by The Man of Yesteryear (5502 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

The Surfer wins.

#36 Posted by Son of Liberty (334 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

The Surfer

#37 Edited by TruePwnge (2764 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Fourpower (R.I.P) said:

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New word for today-it's called hyperbole. That means you overstate things to make a point. It's like saying, "I'm bored to death." You're not really gonna die cuz' you're so bored. It's hyperbole. Silver Surfer has broken lightspeed. He's not that slow. He's also NEARLY COMPLETELY INDESTRUCTIBLE. Besides, he could make it so Flash never existed, or detonated where they were. He'd survive. Flash wouldn't. Silver Surfer vs. Superman or Green Lantern, not so sure about.

"

Silver Surfer crbstomps

#38 Posted by forze (435 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Silver surfer would take this. Slower people have tag the Flash and not even on silver surfer's league, and a tag from silver surfer will end the fight. Well that is if surfer fights out of character since he usually talks before resorting to violence.

#39 Posted by CATMANEXE (17046 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

High Revolutionary said:

"Fourpower (R.I.P) said:
"
Silver Surfer can melt Flash into jelly in half a second. This is not a fair fight.
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Agreed.Stick your fingers in your ears, then stick them in your belly. Don't be afraid if it jiggles like Jelly."

agreed. and time and speed are irrelevant to Surfer anyways. he's beyond those notions.

#40 Posted by Waffle Fries (884 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Silver Surfer destroys the earth with one powerful blast of cosmic energy, the end.

#41 Posted by AtPhantom (14454 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Yeah, Surfer will kill him to death : )

#42 Posted by Logic Mark III (2122 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Physical attacks might not matter since the Silver Surfer can access the astral plane. Time/speed/distance mean nothing there so he could kill the Flash easy as pie, especially as the Flash couldn't retaliate.

Would being trapped in the speed force do anything to Silver Surfer? His level of control over energy and matter should allow him to do something with it or prevent it.

How can the Flash steal Silver Surfers speed if he is in space? The Surfer could be out of the atmosphere in an instant, the guy is fast enough to perform the old Movie Superman fly around the Earth and go back/forward in time.

#43 Posted by Waffle Fries (884 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Logic Mark III said:

"Physical attacks might not matter since the Silver Surfer can access the astral plane. Time/speed/distance mean nothing there so he could kill the Flash easy as pie, especially as the Flash couldn't retaliate.Would being trapped in the speed force do anything to Silver Surfer? His level of control over energy and matter should allow him to do something with it or prevent it.How can the Flash steal Silver Surfers speed if he is in space? The Surfer could be out of the atmosphere in an instant, the guy is fast enough to perform the old Movie Superman fly around the Earth and go back/forward in time."

Ya, the flash would not be able to steal the Surfer's speed because it does not come from the speed force it comes from the power cosmic. Just like how the Flash was not able to steal Zoom's speed because it came from manipulating time.

#44 Edited by AtPhantom (14454 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Flash can steal the speed of people who are not tied to the Speed force. He does not take it from Zoom because it would be pointless, Zoom would just accelerate himself further and it would be like nothing happened. Anyway, I too doubt speed steal would work on the Surfer because of his connection to power cosmic.

Logic Mark III said:

"Physical attacks might not matter since the Silver Surfer can access the astral plane. Time/speed/distance mean nothing there so he could kill the Flash easy as pie, especially as the Flash couldn't retaliate."

He still needs his body to live. Astral plane would not help him. And there is still time involved in it. Thought takes time. accept that.

Logic Mark III said:

"Would being trapped in the speed force do anything to Silver Surfer? His level of control over energy and matter should allow him to do something with it or prevent it."

Probably yes, Surfer should be able to free himself from the speed force easily.

Logic Mark III said:

"How can the Flash steal Silver Surfers speed if he is in space? The Surfer could be out of the atmosphere in an instant, the guy is fast enough to perform the old Movie Superman fly around the Earth and go back/forward in time."

Being fast in a straight line means nothing to your reflex speed. I can get into a car and go at 200 mph, but that doesn't mean I could react to sh!t at that speed. It's the difference between speed and acceleration. Surfer can reach far greater speeds than Flash, but Flash's reflexes and acceleration are easily beyond him.

Either way, the Surfer would win. He's durable enough to handle flash's punches up to a point, and fast enough to cut down Flash's offensive before that point is reached.

#45 Posted by Triumphant (2316 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Surfer

#46 Posted by CATMANEXE (17046 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

V said:

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Flash is one of the most underrated characters in comics, with his speed, he can hang with any of the big guns in either company.
"

no. Flash is one of the most over rated characters, in fact, i cant think of a single character from any company
thats as over rated as Flash and i mean it.

#47 Posted by Logic Mark III (2122 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@AtPhantom: Does he need his body to live? Can he even really die in any conventional way? It said in a SILVER SURFER COMIC that the Astral plane ignores distance/time/speed etc...accept it. Of course the Astral plane would help. Again how does the Flash get him in space? He can't! All the Silver Surfer has to do then is float around in space and enter the Astral plane and kill the Flash....what don't you get about that?

Straight line speed? Uhhhh isn't the Silver Surfer going to fly up in a straight line to get out of the atmosphere into space? I don't think he needs to react to anything. Just think up, up and away and boom he is gone. I don't quite understand why you are bringing reflexes into it!?!??

#48 Posted by Waffle Fries (884 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

AtPhantom said:

"Flash can steal the speed of people who are not tied to the Speed force. He does not take it from Zoom because it would be pointless, Zoom would just accelerate himself further and it would be like nothing happened. Anyway, I too doubt speed steal would work on the Surfer because of his connection to power cosmic.

That was my whole point....

#49 Posted by AtPhantom (14454 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Logic Mark III said:

"@AtPhantom: Does he need his body to live? Can he even really die in any conventional way? It said in a SILVER SURFER COMIC that the Astral plane ignores distance/time/speed etc...accept it. Of course the Astral plane would help. Again how does the Flash get him in space? He can't! All the Silver Surfer has to do then is float around in space and enter the Astral plane and kill the Flash....what don't you get about that?Straight line speed? Uhhhh isn't the Silver Surfer going to fly up in a straight line to get out of the atmosphere into space? I don't think he needs to react to anything. Just think up, up and away and boom he is gone. I don't quite understand why you are bringing reflexes into it!?!??"

/Facepalm.

Yes, he can die in a conventional way. How do we know that? BECAUSE HE'S IN MORTAL DANGER EVERY OTHER TUESDAY!!!! If he could exist as nothing but energy, then he would never be in danger of dying, and that is not the case.

I'll try to make this as clear as I possibly can:
Reflex and thought speed are the same thing, and surfer has slower thought speed than the flash.
If they are in a battle, as soon as the Surfer hears the PING sound or whatever it is that marks the beginning, he would react to that (see, reflex), and head into space. Meanwhile, Flash would have given him three punches before he left the ground. Can you comprehend that?

#50 Posted by Chaos Prime (8223 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Imo SS takes this battle.