#1 Edited by Broman_1412 (201 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer vs Darkseid

Morals off for both sides

They can use all of their powers to win

Win by death

DEBATE!!!!!!!

#2 Posted by ConvenientLie (686 posts) - - Show Bio
#3 Edited by Chaos Prime (11585 posts) - - Show Bio

this encounter has been done to Death..

#4 Edited by CharlieJade (442 posts) - - Show Bio

Kirby Darkseid, the real Darkseid>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>Silver Surfer (616)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>Silver Searcher>nu52 Darkseid>Elseworld Darkseid>Surfer catoon>Darkseid cartoon> earth 16 Darkseid>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> jobbing Darkseid (Loeb etc)

#5 Posted by New_World_Order (13893 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer.

#6 Posted by spiderbuck (2484 posts) - - Show Bio
#7 Posted by comic_book_fan (6487 posts) - - Show Bio

darkseid.

#8 Posted by GhostRider2 (4066 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer wins.

#9 Posted by GhostRavage (10210 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer... I consider Darkseid a major jobber with his OF/OM and losing to Superman...

Lol at this... This is not a mismatch, if Darkseid loses to Superman then he can lose to SS aswell...

#10 Posted by KingAres109 (1623 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer is a monster morals off.But so is Darkseid.Darkseid has one-shotted Superman a few times.More than Supes has done him.

#11 Posted by Moonman78 (1736 posts) - - Show Bio

Although surfer has the power to win this he won't use it quick enough on DS and even though DC has tried to make DS into a clown, I say he beats surfer on average for a majority.

#12 Posted by Killemall (18748 posts) - - Show Bio

Morals off, and post annihilation surfer, assuming the fight takes place on Earth, Surfer is going to have a reasonable chance to win.

Its just given the planetora of abilities Surfer has, he could really be a scary opponent.

Its just we have seen morals off Surfer a couple of times in comics, and he looked no where as powerful as you would expect him to be.

#13 Posted by hardcorefakes (694 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer.

Trolls will be Trolls. Surfer gets Omega Beamed.

#14 Posted by GhostRavage (10210 posts) - - Show Bio

@thundergodswrath said:

Silver Surfer.

Trolls will be Trolls. Surfer gets Omega Beamed.

Should i post all the scans where that OB hasn't work? I have like 4 or 5 i think plus the one from the crossover when he did shoot him and he survived... OB doesn't work... like... ever...

#15 Posted by TifaLockhart (15310 posts) - - Show Bio

Post them.

#16 Posted by The_Titan_Lord (7692 posts) - - Show Bio

SS has my vote.

#17 Edited by gogopowerrangers (36 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer wins

#18 Posted by GhostRider2 (4066 posts) - - Show Bio
#19 Posted by MonsterStomp (24524 posts) - - Show Bio
Online
#20 Posted by GhostRider2 (4066 posts) - - Show Bio

@monsterstomp: didn't failed on Supes and Doomsday?Besides SS can absorb or use his speed to dodge.

#21 Posted by Killemall (18748 posts) - - Show Bio

@thundergodswrath said:

Silver Surfer.

Trolls will be Trolls. Surfer gets Omega Beamed.

Its a little harsh don't you think, calling someone a troll simply because he doesn't agree with you.

Also Omega Beam, given more current portrayal, at the least can be questionable. Granted , at least , if you only look at high end feat it has enough to suggest it can one shot Surfer, the same goes other way around to suggest Surfer could tank it.

Also its not like Surfer himself doesn't have few tricks that should work on Darkseid too, trapping him in the board, matter manipulation on planetary level, planet busting / worm hole creating energy attack, all should work I would think.

#22 Posted by New_World_Order (13893 posts) - - Show Bio

@hardcorefakes: interestingly I actually sort of changed my mind to Darkseid winning. The Omega Beams are not a guranteed win and people need to understand that. Doesn't really matter what you call me because I take anything someone says with lower than 100 posts with a grain of salt.

#23 Edited by eternityx (2934 posts) - - Show Bio

SS.

#24 Edited by Quanchi (291 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer wins

#25 Posted by dondave (39923 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid traps him in the Source Wall

#26 Posted by Quanchi (291 posts) - - Show Bio
#27 Posted by Razul (274 posts) - - Show Bio

Morals off for Surfer is a massive gamechanger. If this is Post Annihilation then I go surfer. He still has a chance even without the upgrade.

#28 Edited by Reactor (2980 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid. Not saying Surfer won't make him work for it, he will - and then some - but I don't believe Surfer can truly take Darkseid out.

#29 Posted by Hulkman123 (1907 posts) - - Show Bio

SS should win this.

Darkseid will put up a good fight, but he isn't quite good enough to do this.

#30 Posted by ElmoHump (1531 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer... I consider Darkseid a major jobber with his OF/OM and losing to Superman...

Lol at this... This is not a mismatch, if Darkseid loses to Superman then he can lose to SS aswell...

Hello there smart arse.Darkseid never fought Superman to kill before.Surfer isn't protected by the source so he dies once Darkseid fires his Omega Beams.Yeah Superman tanked them before but only because Darkseid uses them to only damage Kal-El.

#31 Edited by GhostRavage (10210 posts) - - Show Bio

@elmohump: Lol... You quote a 7 months old comment and on top of that called me a smart arse. Priceless. Whatever you say boss.

#32 Edited by 69ballzdeep (273 posts) - - Show Bio

SS murder stomps

#33 Edited by Experio (18207 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer.

#34 Edited by Killemall (18748 posts) - - Show Bio

@elmohump said:

Hello there smart arse.Darkseid never fought Superman to kill before.Surfer isn't protected by the source so he dies once Darkseid fires his Omega Beams.Yeah Superman tanked them before but only because Darkseid uses them to only damage Kal-El.

There really is no need to be rude.

Also what is this about being protected by source, where has it ever been stated on a canon publication that you need to be protected by source.

Also where does the underlined part come from, your assumption? Coz i know DC writers who disagree with you.

So its not only clear on panel potrayal, even writers disagree with assertion that Superman couldnt tank the Omega Beam, and in line with both consistency as well as clear writer's intent.

Omega Beams are often overblown in comicvine.

#35 Posted by leonkarlen123 (8819 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid stomps, Pre Crisis Darkseid stomps even more

#36 Edited by ElmoHump (1531 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall lol read more.Darkseid can use the Omega Beams to erase anything that isn't protected by the source itself.It's been stated in canon before.Maybe not the New 52 but this forum post was Pre-52 so that counts.Darkseid was using his OB for real and Superman tanked them while protected by the source and he escaped severely injured.Do you know anything about Darkseid mate?Want some scans to prove you and that writer wrong if Darkseid was for real?

#37 Edited by Killemall (18748 posts) - - Show Bio

@elmohump said:

@killemall lol read more.

This doesnt really count as an argument.

Darkseid can use the Omega Beams to erase anything that isn't protected by the source itself.

Then i will be happily wait here for you to show me 1 scan where it says so.

Maybe not the New 52 but this forum post was Pre-52 so that counts.

Nevermind Pre 52, you can try pre crisis just as well and i will happily concede. Just show me 1 scan that even remotely says so.

.Darkseid was using his OB for real and Superman tanked them while protected by the source and he escaped severely injured.

Again i ask you to show me 1 scan suggesting Superman was protected by the source, if you want i can actually start posting scan of Superman tanking OB and no where does it even remotely hints that Source has anything to do with it.

Furthermore, Superman isnt the only person to tank it, Doomsday has tanked it so has Mary Mary and a lot of other.

And it seem you convinently ignored the writer's explanation right there.

Do you know anything about Darkseid mate?

I think so, given i have read most of his appearences.

Want some scans to prove you and that writer wrong if Darkseid was for real?

Absolutely, and even 1 scan suggesting that source has anything to do with it would be greatly appreciated.

#38 Posted by JwwProd (12876 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid.

#39 Edited by God_of_Wrath (258 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall:

Very true. Morals off Sufer has a chance but Darkseid gets the majority.

But on the other hand an out of character Surfer, that is if he used all his powers as he should, then Surfer should stomp.

#40 Edited by theONEtaichou (1609 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall:

Very true. Morals off Sufer has a chance but Darkseid gets the majority.

But on the other hand an out of character Surfer, that is if he used all his powers as he should, then Surfer should stomp.

...why is a morals off SS have a chance? Shouldn't a morals off DS pummel him anyway since their both MO?

good day

#41 Edited by Killemall (18748 posts) - - Show Bio

...why is a morals off SS have a chance? Shouldn't a morals off DS pummel him anyway since their both MO?

good day

Well for one Silver Surfer is significantly faster, and just as versatile.

Its the fact that we are using an amped up version of Darkseid makes it a bit hard to argue against him.

#42 Posted by God_of_Wrath (258 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall:

And I've never seen a morals on Darkseid.

So I don't think we can say that if morals off he'd use all his powers better or anything.

And Surfer is crazy powerful. And morals off he might pull some wins! But majority goes to Darkseid.

#43 Posted by XImpossibruX (5535 posts) - - Show Bio

I love how so many people are like "herp derp Omega beam wins"

And Killemall is proving them wrong, but is promptly ignored.

smh comicvine.

#44 Posted by dorukesin (7421 posts) - - Show Bio

Jobberseid stomps so damn hard

#45 Posted by eternityx (2934 posts) - - Show Bio

SS

#46 Edited by Gizmorino (5818 posts) - - Show Bio

silver surfer after a hard battle

#47 Edited by lol (5444 posts) - - Show Bio
#48 Posted by Cooldes (4232 posts) - - Show Bio

silver surfer is just as versitile, and waaaaaayy faster.

I'm going with him on this one

#49 Edited by GhostRider2 (4066 posts) - - Show Bio

Still Surfer.

#50 Posted by FlashGreaterSignEveryone (1323 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid wins