#1 Edited by BigCimmerian (7849 posts) - - Show Bio

- This is post annihilation Surfer he has morals off

- Pre Flashpoint Martian Manhunter and Black Adam and this is current Thor

- Team is bloodlusted, who wins and why?

#2 Edited by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian:Surfer dies.

Morals on Surfer would have trouble fighting a morals on Thor, morals off Thor would beat him, then adding on Black Adam(a being who could fight off the JSA) and Martian Manhunter(a superman level character, a high telepath, and being who can only be killed by molecular disintegration) means the team wins in a massive stomp.

#3 Posted by Bane_of_sith (2778 posts) - - Show Bio

Team wins...SS with morals on would never do what it takes to beat them all...that said I do believe if he were bloodlusted he could win

#4 Edited by BigCimmerian (7849 posts) - - Show Bio

OK SURFER HAS MORALS OFF NOW

#5 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

Team kills the Surfer, pretty easily.

#6 Posted by InfamousFish (353 posts) - - Show Bio

The team stomps.

#7 Posted by Immortal777 (6828 posts) - - Show Bio

Yea I'll go with the team

#8 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (4879 posts) - - Show Bio

Morals on team wins. Bloodlusted SS with morals off would beat this team.

#9 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (1524 posts) - - Show Bio

Morals off, I am not sure what they are going to do to him before he kills them.

#10 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

Team stomps pretty damn hard. Morals off Black Adam would give him a pretty decent fight (he'd lose, but still...), so adding the three makes it a stomp.

#11 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (4879 posts) - - Show Bio

They are not stomping a bloodlusted morals off SS. They would blitzed to death. Not to mention he could take them to the astral plane and mind rape them. He could use matter manipulation on them. He has way to many options here. The only shot they have is against a morals on in character SS. Their strength won't be an issue either due to SS strength augmentation. SS has also been able to depower characters, he also can imprison them in his board. MM TP is useless against SS so that won't help the team. SS holds back 99% of the time but when he cuts lose he's extremely hard to beat.

#12 Posted by hemporionshinryu (6 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor alone has already beaten Surfer. The team would murder him in 30 seconds.

#13 Edited by Vouile (678 posts) - - Show Bio

said

"Team stomps pretty damn hard. Morals off Black Adam would give him a pretty decent fight (he'd lose, but still...), so adding the three makes it a stomp."

Black Adam is too over-rated in your book. He stalemated with Superman but that doesn't mean he's on-par with The Silver Surfer (especially in terms of speed).

*~*

"Thor alone has already beaten Surfer. The team would murder him in 30 seconds."

This is true when morals apply.

*~*

@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub said

"Morals on team wins. Bloodlusted SS with morals off would beat this team."

You're name sounds sad, why should the wolf and her cub be alone? But your post proves that you're an intellect and yes, Bloodlusted Silver Surfer...man that yould be real bad for the team! Energy Manipulation, Time Travel and faster than light speed in a large bloodlusted would be REAL bad for the team!

Morals on: Team wins

Morals off: Silver Surfer wins

Message by,

Vouile

#14 Posted by demifiendninja (299 posts) - - Show Bio

@shenryuzaiden said:

@XiiX said:

Team. Surfer gets terribly overrated at times........

this.

any of team can give him problems by himself

#15 Posted by hemporionshinryu (6 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vouile: This is a comic site, please read a comic before posting again

Blood and Thunder, Thor beat Surfer and dented his skull leaving Surfer lying there like a bitch.

#16 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vouile: Black Adam has never actually fought Superman. Superman has fought Black Adam, though. Also, in each of those appearances, Black Adam had the advantage. When Black Adam actually fight's someone (i.e. Doctor Fate, Alan Scott, Amazo, and Martian Manhunter), he wins.

#17 Edited by XLR87T3 (2243 posts) - - Show Bio

@hemporionshinryu: I just read that. I'm pretty sure Silver Surfer was trying to reason with him and stuff. Sounds like begging, but I can't say SS was going all out, you know, with no morals.

#18 Posted by Empiorumfacemask (6 posts) - - Show Bio

@XLR87T3 said:

@hemporionshinryu: I just read that. I'm pretty sure Silver Surfer was trying to reason with him and stuff. Sounds like begging, but I can't say SS was going all out, you know, with no morals.

Thor beat him in an earlier issue also, Thor has 2 victories over him, SUrfer has none.

#19 Posted by XiiX (7413 posts) - - Show Bio

@Empiorumfacemask said:

@XLR87T3 said:

@hemporionshinryu: I just read that. I'm pretty sure Silver Surfer was trying to reason with him and stuff. Sounds like begging, but I can't say SS was going all out, you know, with no morals.

Thor beat him in an earlier issue also, Thor has 2 victories over him, SUrfer has none.

Wow, really? The way people make it seem is that Thor would lose to Surfer any day of the week..........

#20 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5131 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub
Morals on team wins. Bloodlusted SS with morals off would beat this team.
THIS.
#21 Posted by Empiorumfacemask (6 posts) - - Show Bio

@XiiX said:

@Empiorumfacemask said:

@XLR87T3 said:

@hemporionshinryu: I just read that. I'm pretty sure Silver Surfer was trying to reason with him and stuff. Sounds like begging, but I can't say SS was going all out, you know, with no morals.

Thor beat him in an earlier issue also, Thor has 2 victories over him, SUrfer has none.

Wow, really? The way people make it seem is that Thor would lose to Surfer any day of the week..........

Surfer could beat Thor with his speed but even if he's blood lusted he'd get stomped by these 3

#22 Posted by spawn_123 (1693 posts) - - Show Bio

I love SS and im a big fan but the team wins this one

#23 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (4879 posts) - - Show Bio

@hemporionshinryu and @Empiorumfacemask sense your one in the same. You know the same troll who used about 5 different accounts to troll SS threads yesterday. Pretty much said the same thing to almost anyone who was for SS or Runner. "This is a comic site, please read a comic before posting again". You have to be kidding me?! Who the hell is on a comic site talking about comics if they don't read them? Your trolling is pathetic. You never make an actual argument and all you try to do is insult other people for not having the same opinion as you. You are not even clever enough to act like you are someone else. Hell the Runner thread was locked yesterday due to all of your incessant trolling. How much of a lack of life do you have to change accounts 5 times on one site in a day? It's amazing with all of your vast comics knowledge that you couldn't use your real user name to debate those of us with such feeble comics knowledge. When did you graduate Comics University btw? Didn't catch your credentials at the beginning of the thread. Now be a good troll and get back under your bridge, it is dinner time after all. See you next account. Wonder what name you will shock us with next time?

#24 Posted by Empiorumfacemask (6 posts) - - Show Bio

@spawn_123 said:

I love SS and im a big fan but the team wins this one

Agreed, it's actually pretty cruel. Any of them would give Surfer hell one on one. Being blood lusted isn't going to save Surfer from the one sided ass whipping he's going to get

#25 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Team kills the Surfer, pretty easily.
#26 Posted by darktiger (4153 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Team kills the Surfer, pretty easily.

agreed

#27 Posted by XLR87T3 (2243 posts) - - Show Bio

@Empiorumfacemask said:

@XLR87T3 said:

@hemporionshinryu: I just read that. I'm pretty sure Silver Surfer was trying to reason with him and stuff. Sounds like begging, but I can't say SS was going all out, you know, with no morals.

Thor beat him in an earlier issue also, Thor has 2 victories over him, SUrfer has none.

Are you freaking kidding me?!? (This is going down my imaginary score-book of victories Thor has over Superman...)Thor knocks him out, the rest of the team can do whatever they want with the body.

#28 Posted by IZZR (4289 posts) - - Show Bio
Any of the 3 can solo him, even morals off its a toss up.
#29 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (4879 posts) - - Show Bio

@IZZR you lost all credibility when you just said anyone of them could solo. Ive noticed you have a severe hatred for the SS. Doesn't mean he would get stomped. You also tried low balling SS on another thread by using a scan of SS in a Loeb written comic. Go ahead and start a thread with SS facing each one of these guys solo. We'll see how many people agree with you.

#30 Posted by IZZR (4289 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub said:
@IZZR you lost all credibility when you just said anyone of them could solo. Ive noticed you have a severe hatred for the SS. Doesn't mean he would get stomped. You also tried low balling SS on another thread by using a scan of SS in a Loeb written comic. Go ahead and start a thread with SS facing each one of these guys solo. We'll see how many people agree with you.
Wth? You actually believe SS has superior strength, speed and versatility that these 3? Martian manhunter went toe to toe with SBP he would wipe the floor with SS, hes such a boring character, just silver and naked for no reason.
#31 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian said:

OK SURFER HAS MORALS OFF NOW

Morals off Surfer stomps, he has transmutation, blitzing, dimensional transportation, shielding, divine empowerment(removing their superpowers), mindrape,etc.

#32 Edited by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (4879 posts) - - Show Bio

@IZZR so because he's silver, doesn't have his penis hanging out and boring to you he loses? That's impeccable logic. You need to read up on SS, he would destroy anyone of these 3 1 on 1. MM is like a watered down version of SS. A bloodlusted SS is too much for any of these 3. The only reason in your mine that he doesn't win is due to your dislike of him. If you are going to say any one of the 3 can beat him solo t least make an actual argument. Oh and another thing, you actually think any of these 3 can match the SS in speed? Surely you jest. Lmao! He can traverse galaxies in seconds. Not to mention he can augment his strength to match them, so yeah he's got the bases covered.

#33 Posted by isaac_clarke (5448 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer loses here, mainly because of the Martian and Mjolnir. It's honestly a bit much to fight this many people without something more exploitable - unless he's BFRing like crazy or opening singularities in their brains.

#34 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW said:

@BigCimmerian:Surfer dies.

Morals on Surfer would have trouble fighting a morals on Thor, morals off Thor would beat him, then adding on Black Adam(a being who could fight off the JSA) and Martian Manhunter(a superman level character, a high telepath, and being who can only be killed by molecular disintegration) means the team wins in a massive stomp.

Thor would beat Silver Surfer?

#35 Edited by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (4879 posts) - - Show Bio

@Isaac_clarke he can move @FTL speeds and blitz the hell out of them. None of them can compete with his speed. He can take them to the astral plane, he might be able to depower them also. With his scosmic awareness he'll know all of their weaknesses, I'm sure BFR'ing them is a viable option also. As you said opening singularities in their brains is possible, I admit that was something I forgot he could do. Not to mention he has matter manipulation and can even create black holes. The fact that he can survive through black holes and stars is a testament to his durability, none of these 3 have that kind of power. With that said morals on SS loses, but a morals off bloodlusted SS could definitely win this.

#36 Posted by KaitenKenbuRyuken (17 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@NerdsFTW said:

@BigCimmerian:Surfer dies.

Morals on Surfer would have trouble fighting a morals on Thor, morals off Thor would beat him, then adding on Black Adam(a being who could fight off the JSA) and Martian Manhunter(a superman level character, a high telepath, and being who can only be killed by molecular disintegration) means the team wins in a massive stomp.

Thor would beat Silver Surfer?

Don't see why not, he's done it before.

#37 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: @KaitenKenbuRyuken: Morals on? Yes. Morals off? No.

#38 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW said:

@jeanroygrant: @KaitenKenbuRyuken: Morals on? Yes. Morals off? No.

Why?

#39 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@KaitenKenbuRyuken said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@NerdsFTW said:

@BigCimmerian:Surfer dies.

Morals on Surfer would have trouble fighting a morals on Thor, morals off Thor would beat him, then adding on Black Adam(a being who could fight off the JSA) and Martian Manhunter(a superman level character, a high telepath, and being who can only be killed by molecular disintegration) means the team wins in a massive stomp.

Thor would beat Silver Surfer?

Don't see why not, he's done it before.

That was Classic Versions.

#40 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

That was Classic Versions.

Classic and Current Thor are the same version.

@jeanroygrant said:

Why?

Morals off, Surfer uses mindrape or transmutation.

#41 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW said:

@jeanroygrant said:

That was Classic Versions.

Classic and Current Thor are the same version.

@jeanroygrant said:

Why?

Morals off, Surfer uses mindrape or transmutation.

Alright.

#42 Posted by XiiX (7413 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer gets gang-bashed.

#43 Posted by MonsterStomp (15740 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub said:

@Isaac_clarke he can move @FTL speeds and blitz the hell out of them. None of them can compete with his speed. He can take them to the astral plane, he might be able to depower them also. With his scosmic awareness he'll know all of their weaknesses, I'm sure BFR'ing them is a viable option also. As you said opening singularities in their brains is possible, I admit that was something I forgot he could do. Not to mention he has matter manipulation and can even create black holes. The fact that he can survive through black holes and stars is a testament to his durability, none of these 3 have that kind of power. With that said morals on SS loses, but a morals off bloodlusted SS could definitely win this.

When has Surfer blitz anyone? Surfer moving at FTL speeds isn't the same as reacting that fast.