#1 Edited by XiiX (8049 posts) - - Show Bio
#2 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

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#3 Posted by King Saturn (224033 posts) - - Show Bio
I think Silver Surfer's cosmic power is greater than Abra Kadabra's magic...
#4 Posted by RobocopSlayerT800 (2341 posts) - - Show Bio

@King Saturn said:

I think Silver Surfer's cosmic power is greater than Abra Kadabra's magic...
#5 Posted by GhostRider2 (3282 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer wins.

#6 Posted by Killemall (18556 posts) - - Show Bio

Abra Kadabra without his character flaw is a reality warper. Would be very hard for Surfer to fight him.

#7 Posted by xeon1cs (1479 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

Abra Kadabra without his character flaw is a reality warper. Would be very hard for Surfer to fight him.

I'm not overly informed when it comes to Abra Kadabra, but what character flaw?

#8 Posted by Killemall (18556 posts) - - Show Bio

@xeon1cs said:

I'm not overly informed when it comes to Abra Kadabra, but what character flaw?

Same as most of the villians, not using his most potent powers, playing around etc. AK has at times shown the ability to outright warp reality, take away peoples powers using his tech, however when it comes to a straight fight, he never using his most potent abilities and mostly focused on trying to steal.

#9 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (5019 posts) - - Show Bio

SS in a spite stomp

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#10 Edited by XiiX (8049 posts) - - Show Bio

1up.

#11 Edited by SithLantern93 (2140 posts) - - Show Bio

Abra Kadabra

#12 Edited by dondave (36582 posts) - - Show Bio

Abra

#13 Posted by sophia89 (3515 posts) - - Show Bio
#14 Posted by OreoAssassin (4795 posts) - - Show Bio

Kadabra

#15 Posted by highaccuser (6182 posts) - - Show Bio

I see Norrin just transmuting Abras tech.

#16 Posted by reaverlation (15636 posts) - - Show Bio

I see Norrin just transmuting Abras tech.

Into pancakes I agree.

#17 Posted by highaccuser (6182 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser said:

I see Norrin just transmuting Abras tech.

Into pancakes I agree.

Or Waffles!

But I sustain my view.

#18 Posted by reaverlation (15636 posts) - - Show Bio
#19 Posted by highaccuser (6182 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: Better be syrup!

But Abra ftw

He'll turn some more people into Syrup!

Why does Abra win? I don't see how he resists getting his gear transmuted.

#20 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (3661 posts) - - Show Bio

Abra Kadabra, primarily a Flash Villain, is a reality warper. Surfer fans will never give in to this loss.

#21 Posted by Apocalypse3 (1332 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver surfer

#22 Posted by DemonKnights (5394 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer turns him into a pancake.

#23 Posted by XiiX (8049 posts) - - Show Bio

@demonknights: Yeah, the writers need to stop having him do that.

#24 Edited by reaverlation (15636 posts) - - Show Bio
#25 Posted by highaccuser (6182 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: Kadabra can just erase Surfer's mind.

Didn't Surfer push out the telepathy of Moondragon with the mind gem, and moondragon even without the mind gem was a planetary telepath who team busted?

#26 Posted by New_World_Order (13050 posts) - - Show Bio

Abra Kadabra probably.

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#27 Posted by reaverlation (15636 posts) - - Show Bio
#28 Posted by highaccuser (6182 posts) - - Show Bio
#29 Posted by reaverlation (15636 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: I never knew telepathic attacks leave you in smoke like that...

#30 Edited by highaccuser (6182 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: I never knew telepathic attacks leave you in smoke like that...

The only kind of energy blasts Moondragon have are telepathic. What else could they be?

#31 Posted by reaverlation (15636 posts) - - Show Bio
#32 Posted by highaccuser (6182 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: It could be telekinetic instead.

I've read a few comics with Moondragon in them. I've never seen her use telekinesis.

And he still escaped Goddess control when she had the cosmic egg, which was made of 30 cosmic cubes.

#33 Edited by dondave (36582 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: That's a mind blast. It's a concussive beam.

#34 Posted by reaverlation (15636 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: Funny how Moondragon wasn't allowed full access to the Mind gem due to Adam Warlock's restrictions. IIRC telekinesis was one the 1st things Moondragon commented on was boosted from the gem.And no telepathic attacks leave you in smoke like that.

Actually Goddess took control of Surfer's mind later in the story

#35 Posted by highaccuser (6182 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

@highaccuser: That's a mind blast. It's a concussive beam.

A telepathic concussive beam right?

#36 Posted by dondave (36582 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser A psionic concussive beam. She projects psionic energy as concussive blasts.

#37 Edited by XiiX (8049 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: That's honestly how I always interpreted it as well.

Otherwise why bother with the directed blast of energy, and not skip to him sporadically grasping his head, like they mostly do when telepaths try to possess someone?

That'd be like saying someone tried to use an "energy-based attack, therefor they were trying to affect/posess/take control of them on an energetic level". Often it's as simple as "they were trying to smack the crap outta someone with their main power" AKA knock them out.

In either case, it was never narrated as such, and(in my opinon) lends a certain unfounded credence to the origin of the attack/blast(from Moondragon) in question.

#38 Posted by highaccuser (6182 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: Funny how Moondragon wasn't allowed full access to the Mind gem due to Adam Warlock's restrictions. IIRC telekinesis was one the 1st things Moondragon commented on was boosted from the gem.And no telepathic attacks leave you in smoke like that.

Actually Goddess took control of Surfer's mind later in the story

Okay...but he did push her out then right? At least breifly?