#1 Posted by King Saturn (223834 posts) - - Show Bio

Who wins in an all out battle between these Cosmic Powerhouses ? Silver Surfer and Thor vs Adam Warlock and Captain Atom ? Both Silver Surfer and Thor are at Standard Levels of Power. Adam Warlock is at most recent level of power minus the Soul Gem. Captain Atom is at his Pre 52 Levels. Fight takes place in Space. Random Encounter.

#2 Posted by AngryHulks (3001 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer vs Captain Atom is hard to debate (and I like them both), but however, Adam Warlock is the weakest here (I didn't follow up on Adam Warlock recently, so I might missed something) and Surfer should beat him easily. But the inclusion of Thor should give the team 1 higher chance of winning.

#3 Posted by King Saturn (223834 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer vs Captain Atom is hard to debate (and I like them both), but however, Adam Warlock is the weakest here (I didn't follow up on Adam Warlock recently, so I might missed something) and Surfer should beat him easily. But the inclusion of Thor should give the team 1 higher chance of winning.

what makes Adam Warlock the weak link in your opinion ?

#4 Posted by AngryHulks (3001 posts) - - Show Bio

@angryhulks said:

Silver Surfer vs Captain Atom is hard to debate (and I like them both), but however, Adam Warlock is the weakest here (I didn't follow up on Adam Warlock recently, so I might missed something) and Surfer should beat him easily. But the inclusion of Thor should give the team 1 higher chance of winning.

what makes Adam Warlock the weak link in your opinion ?

Well, actually Adam Warlock have held his own against Thor, but that's was long time ago. However, Adam Warlock was nearly KOed by Punisher robots, that's what I think made me think he's weak. He might as well have upgrade now because I didn't follow up on him recently.

#5 Posted by King Saturn (223834 posts) - - Show Bio

@king_saturn said:

@angryhulks said:

Silver Surfer vs Captain Atom is hard to debate (and I like them both), but however, Adam Warlock is the weakest here (I didn't follow up on Adam Warlock recently, so I might missed something) and Surfer should beat him easily. But the inclusion of Thor should give the team 1 higher chance of winning.

what makes Adam Warlock the weak link in your opinion ?

Well, actually Adam Warlock have held his own against Thor, but that's was long time ago. However, Adam Warlock was nearly KOed by Punisher robots, that's what I think made me think he's weak. He might as well have upgrade now because I didn't follow up on him recently.

alrighty

#6 Posted by silverJuggernaut (132 posts) - - Show Bio

i think silver surfer and thor will win this one.

#7 Edited by czarny_samael666 (17004 posts) - - Show Bio

@king_saturn said:

@angryhulks said:

Silver Surfer vs Captain Atom is hard to debate (and I like them both), but however, Adam Warlock is the weakest here (I didn't follow up on Adam Warlock recently, so I might missed something) and Surfer should beat him easily. But the inclusion of Thor should give the team 1 higher chance of winning.

what makes Adam Warlock the weak link in your opinion ?

Well, actually Adam Warlock have held his own against Thor, but that's was long time ago. However, Adam Warlock was nearly KOed by Punisher robots, that's what I think made me think he's weak. He might as well have upgrade now because I didn't follow up on him recently.

Very different Warlock than this one.

IMO it is really hard to decide. They all have so many powers based on magic and cosmic energies...

Warlock's sihelds should be able to survive any attack from people from team 1. Killemall belives that Adam still can affect sould of his enemies. If it is truth then Team 2 should win.

#8 Posted by UltraSuperTrooper (676 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 takes majority I think. should be a good fight

#9 Edited by King Saturn (223834 posts) - - Show Bio

anyone else ?

#10 Posted by INFINITE_DOOM (265 posts) - - Show Bio

I would have to go with team one due to the fact that Silver Surfer and Captain Atom are on a even field in my opinion, the little i know of Adam Warlock does not suffice to beat Thor.

#11 Edited by rolldestroyer (3508 posts) - - Show Bio

team 1 IMO

#12 Edited by New_World_Order (12613 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer and Thor.

#13 Posted by King Saturn (223834 posts) - - Show Bio

any more in depth reasons for you choices ?

#14 Posted by King Saturn (223834 posts) - - Show Bio

I am curious as to know why Team 2 seems to have no shot here ?

#15 Edited by Clark_EL (2583 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1

#16 Edited by GhostRider2 (3275 posts) - - Show Bio

I am curious as to know why Team 2 seems to have no shot here ?

Atom can't beat the Silver Surfer.This is like Manhattan vs SS where what Manhattan can do, SS can do better.

#17 Edited by Shawnbaby (10478 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm giving this to Atom Warlock (See what i did there?)....Thor actually lacks the Versatility that the other three have.

#18 Posted by King Saturn (223834 posts) - - Show Bio

@king_saturn said:

I am curious as to know why Team 2 seems to have no shot here ?

Atom can't beat the Silver Surfer.This is like Manhattan vs SS where what Manhattan can do, SS can do better.

those are just two characters... what if Adam Warlock is more versatile than Thor ? then what happens ?

#19 Edited by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1,but it's close.

#20 Edited by Killemall (18323 posts) - - Show Bio

those are just two characters... what if Adam Warlock is more versatile than Thor ? then what happens ?

Well Thor runs the risk of getting his soul stolen by a touch, or being a victim of matter manipulation.

Physical strength alone Thor would stomp all over Warlock (nice job on not given Warlock the soul gem , thats a hax item anyways) but Warlock has shield capable of surviving Supernova without a problem, is one of the most powerful energy manipulator (not that its going to help against the vaunted hammer), is pretty well versed as a fighter, has matter manipulation, has to some extent telepathy (Surfer TP likely negates that), has soul manipulation (he however has to touch the person in question, but Asgardian souls are harder to manipulate though).

Its a versatility that Warlock has makes it a close match i am still leaning towards Thor in a one on one match with Warlock.

Warlock and Thor have , thus far, fought 4 times (not including Magus) and while there is a bit of context involved in the aforementioned battle, Warlock lost everytime. First time Thor was in Warrior Madness , Warlock has him ran away, second and third time Thor was in pseudo warrior madness Warlock got stamped upon, and last time Thor has power gem.

#21 Edited by czarny_samael666 (17004 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall:

Thor was in pseudo warrior madness

It wasn't any WM. IT was the point of whole story. Bioses are often wrong. For example they say that Kurse is 2 times stronger than Thor, while Beyonder amped him another time, which means that he is 4 times stronger.

#22 Edited by King Saturn (223834 posts) - - Show Bio

@king_saturn said:

those are just two characters... what if Adam Warlock is more versatile than Thor ? then what happens ?

Well Thor runs the risk of getting his soul stolen by a touch, or being a victim of matter manipulation.

Physical strength alone Thor would stomp all over Warlock (nice job on not given Warlock the soul gem , thats a hax item anyways) but Warlock has shield capable of surviving Supernova without a problem, is one of the most powerful energy manipulator (not that its going to help against the vaunted hammer), is pretty well versed as a fighter, has matter manipulation, has to some extent telepathy (Surfer TP likely negates that), has soul manipulation (he however has to touch the person in question, but Asgardian souls are harder to manipulate though).

Its a versatility that Warlock has makes it a close match i am still leaning towards Thor in a one on one match with Warlock.

Warlock and Thor have , thus far, fought 4 times (not including Magus) and while there is a bit of context involved in the aforementioned battle, Warlock lost everytime. First time Thor was in Warrior Madness , Warlock has him ran away, second and third time Thor was in pseudo warrior madness Warlock got stamped upon, and last time Thor has power gem.

hmmmm... very good analysis.

#23 Edited by Killemall (18323 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall:

Thor was in pseudo warrior madness

It wasn't any WM. IT was the point of whole story. Bioses are often wrong. For example they say that Kurse is 2 times stronger than Thor, while Beyonder amped him another time, which means that he is 4 times stronger.

Thats why i mentioned pseudo warrior madness, because everyone there "thought" he was in warrior madness, before Odin came up twirling his mustache.

@king_saturn:thanks, i have read most of Thor issues, all Surfer issue till November 2011 and most of it after that point as well, and have read every Warlock issue, including his non-canon appearances as well as bios and stuffs in Marvel Age interviews. I feel the 3 marvel character i can give a good judgement on, but i have read like only 10 issues with Captain Atom in it :p

#24 Edited by Vaeternus (9410 posts) - - Show Bio

Leaning team 2 in a tough battle

#25 Edited by Clark_EL (2583 posts) - - Show Bio

Leaning towards team 1 but I'm not sure.

#26 Posted by lol (4079 posts) - - Show Bio

Leaning team 2 in a tough battle

#27 Posted by Experio (14340 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor and Surfer.

#28 Posted by dondave (34674 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1

#29 Posted by halvardisnotnice2 (3 posts) - - Show Bio

i'm honestly gonna go with team 2 here, them combined would be an awfully hard team to beat