#151 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (4235 posts) - - Show Bio

Based off of powersets and abilities bloodlusted Silver Surfer (theoretically) should be >> Thor who I would wager = Superman. Supes is Supes though so yeah

#152 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7162 posts) - - Show Bio

Current Surfer Vs pre flash Point surfer cool fight. Surfer vs new 52 Surfer stomps.

#153 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12483 posts) - - Show Bio

CLOSE IT ALREADY, IT IS UNANIMOUS, but seriously this was over like 5 pages ago........you know, at first i thought that marvel fanboys were bad and that DC fanboys were fewer, this was very eye opening to me.

#154 Posted by jameshebrew (763 posts) - - Show Bio

@SlimJ87D: im just going by what it says

#155 Posted by jameshebrew (763 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ancient_0f_Days: the man of steel always finds a way to win

#156 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12483 posts) - - Show Bio

@jameshebrew: .......wtf.... "the man of steel always finds a way to win" wtf was that, wow, It is official, DC wankers are just as bad as Marvel wankers, but anime wankers are just absolute king at wank, the masters of wank..........anyway, james, with that last statement, it is clear to me that you no longer belong in this thread.

#157 Posted by acer51 (2258 posts) - - Show Bio

@jameshebrew said:

@SlimJ87D: im not really talking about travel speed, but if supes can close the gap can he possibly speed blitz him..

isnt ss pretty much done if he gets knocked off his board?

It's a wide spread misconception spread by the movies that Surfer is powerless without his Board he can use all his powers (besides super flight) without his board he can likley still fly without the board but not at time breaking speeds.

#158 Posted by jameshebrew (763 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ancient_0f_Days: hahaha wow man was kinda kidding but that was funny you frick!

#159 Posted by jameshebrew (763 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: "likely"

is not gonna cut it

#160 Edited by Ancient_0f_Days (12483 posts) - - Show Bio

@jameshebrew: I don't know what language you speak but i speak the american English language ok, and "frick" isn't apart of it. (i know what you mean and you should count yourself lucky i don't just report you anyway)

#161 Edited by acer51 (2258 posts) - - Show Bio

@jameshebrew said:

@acer51: "likely"

is not gonna cut it

I've never seen him fly Without the board so im not going to say otherwise.

What i do know is Surfers powers still work without the Board and that it's a wide spread misconception that he cant, also with the board he can travel at time traveling speeds.

Im also going to say even though Superman is far more powerfull while sundipped he dosn't get to in this battle so it dosn't matter.

Imo Surfer is going to win this because frankly he's just more powerfull he has the power to destroy planets, somthing im pretty sure Pre-flashpoint Superman couldn't do.

#162 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12483 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: having the power to destroy planets..........frankly means nothing outside of a DBZ episode. just saying.

#163 Posted by jameshebrew (763 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ancient_0f_Days: in England we us frick for everything you fricken frick..superman takes this fricken fight 8 out of 10 fricken times frick!

#164 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12483 posts) - - Show Bio

@jameshebrew: U mad.........anyway super wank......like i said, you don't belong here, once thought you were a legit debater, now i see that you are a troll, and this is my last spoonful to you, cuz im done feeding you.

#165 Posted by acer51 (2258 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ancient_0f_Days said:

@acer51: having the power to destroy planets..........frankly means nothing outside of a DBZ episode. just saying.

Having the Power to destroy planets means evreything Silver Surfer wouldn't be able to fight anyone his leve without that power, also i dont know what a DBZ episode is.

#166 Posted by jameshebrew (763 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ancient_0f_Days: y do u take everything so personal im just messing with u

take a shot and relax its all for fun

#167 Posted by jameshebrew (763 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: in all honesty supes has the power to destroy planets too its just emitted in different ways..you could destroy earth with enough nukes{the us has enough to do this 9 times over:0] and obviously supes has more power than that his power is almost limitless

#168 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12483 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: Superman is more durable that a simple earth sized planet and not every planet is the same as earth in size or density, but im gonna assume you know that already and move on from your blatant ignorance. Anyway, superman is more durable than 2 planets that collided into eachother, onto him, end result, he came out ok. in DBZ. planet busting is all the rage and if you can bust a planet, or boast about busting a solar system or even a sketchy hint that you can bust a non-canon galaxy, you can bust the universe (this is DBZ fanboy logic btw). But no one in DBZ can bust more than a planet at one time since not every planet is the same size. People in Marvel and DC do it all the time and they do it to multiple planets of different sizes. So busting a planet means ABSOLUTELY nothing. surfer has the power to destroy the universe with the fullest of his power, regularly a solar system, since his powers far exceed the limit of a planet.

#169 Posted by ssejllenrad (12790 posts) - - Show Bio

So this thread is still alive? Daaaaaaamn! I'm a Supes fanboy and I know he ain't beating SS. Well not unless he gets amps. But normally he'd get pounded really really hard.

#170 Posted by acer51 (2258 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ancient_0f_Days said:

@acer51: Superman is more durable that a simple earth sized planet and not every planet is the same as earth in size or density, but im gonna assume you know that already and move on from your blatant ignorance. Anyway, superman is more durable than 2 planets that collided into eachother, onto him, end result, he came out ok. in DBZ. planet busting is all the rage and if you can bust a planet, or boast about busting a solar system or even a sketchy hint that you can bust a non-canon galaxy, you can bust the universe (this is DBZ fanboy logic btw). But no one in DBZ can bust more than a planet at one time since not every planet is the same size. People in Marvel and DC do it all the time and they do it to multiple planets of different sizes. So busting a planet means ABSOLUTELY nothing. surfer has the power to destroy the universe with the fullest of his power, regularly a solar system, since his powers far exceed the limit of a planet.

If anyones ignorant it's you, SIlver Surfer can destroy an Earth size Planet or greater with ease, Superman cant nuff said.

By the way the OPer changed the thread rules to make it the orginal Superman who would get stomped.

#171 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12273 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer stomps.

#172 Posted by jameshebrew (763 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: but superman can,,why would he though..he could with ease also

supes takes him

#173 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12273 posts) - - Show Bio

@jameshebrew said:

@acer51: but superman can,,why would he though..he could with ease also

supes takes him

No, he couldn't. Not even close.

#174 Posted by jameshebrew (763 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001: his power is amplified in different ways than ss,,his is mainly brute strength,,what would stop him from flying straight through the planet many times and cause it to explode..

#175 Posted by acer51 (2258 posts) - - Show Bio

@jameshebrew said:

@acer51: but superman can,,why would he though..he could with ease also

supes takes him

You dont get what im saying here, the Op changed it to the Orginal Superman that means Golden age, no one noticed the OPer say it was now Golden age which is why this battle went on for this long.

#176 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12273 posts) - - Show Bio

@jameshebrew said:

@venomoushatred1001: his power is amplified in different ways than ss,,his is mainly brute strength,,what would stop him from flying straight through the planet many times and cause it to explode..

That won't matter when Surfer transmutes him into a fruit pie.

#177 Edited by acer51 (2258 posts) - - Show Bio

Heres the conversation which led to the Op changing the battle 4 years ago on page 2 of this debate.

@Eternal Chaos said:

I honestly think that if we went with all the orginal versions of everybody both marvel and dc it would be so crazy, and cool. simple, but still crazy and cool.

yea orinal ss vs oringal superman

The OPer Mispelled this he later makes a post admiting he meant to say Original.

This is proof that 4 years ago the battle was changed to Golden age Superman and SIlver Age Surfer meaning SURFER STOMPS.

#178 Posted by acer51 (2258 posts) - - Show Bio

/thread

#179 Posted by jameshebrew (763 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: i know he said that..i still believe in supermans speed and strength over ss

#180 Posted by jameshebrew (763 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001: explain how he does this to a person as powerful and has the invounrability as supes

#181 Posted by WillPayton (10009 posts) - - Show Bio

Why are people still arguing this? Superman cant win against SS.

#182 Posted by acer51 (2258 posts) - - Show Bio

@jameshebrew said:

@acer51: i know he said that..i still believe in supermans speed and strength over ss

Golden age Superman cant even fly.

#183 Posted by jameshebrew (763 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: either can ss without his board and hes been known to be separated from it b4, i think supes could do this

superman can still leap tall buildings in a single bound

#184 Posted by acer51 (2258 posts) - - Show Bio

@jameshebrew: But he can't beat a guy who is radiating with pure Cosmic Energy and can demolish Planets with a Single Blast.

(I would like to mention that Golden Age Supes can be hurt by Shell-fire)

ARE WE DONE HERE?!

#185 Edited by jameshebrew (763 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: yeah but he has superhuman control of face muscles lol..jk

i know about the shell thing but thats only the first 3 yeary of golden age latter on in golden age he was able to withstand a atomic bomb

#186 Posted by acer51 (2258 posts) - - Show Bio

@jameshebrew:

A Nuke? Thats what you're bringing to a fight againist Silver Surfer?

Admit it! you've lost.

#187 Edited by spiderbuck (2455 posts) - - Show Bio

@NEEK_03 said:

@spiderbuck said:

Can't we all just agree Surfer Stomps and just share some ice cream or something?

what kind of ice cream? and no im not convinced surfer wins let alone stomps.

Cosmic Cookie Crunch!

But Surfer will only share if you agree he wins :)

#188 Posted by jameshebrew (763 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: i admit nothing i regret nothing and i truly believe supes can find a way to win..golden age supes especially always did

#189 Posted by acer51 (2258 posts) - - Show Bio

@jameshebrew:

Don't you want some Ice Cream?

Let me introduce you to a term called PLOT INDUCED STUPIDITY

It's why Supes always wins. (It's why every Superhero always wins)

In an actual fight, without biased writers, there is no hope for Superman, and you sir, are in denial.

Now...we are serving Vanilla, Strawberry, Chocolate, Oreo, Coffee, and my personal favourite, Rocky Road.

#190 Posted by jojjimbo (2463 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer wins here.

#191 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (3182 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ancient_0f_Days said:

@Petey_is_Spidey: Obviously you don't know what you are talking about, nor did you read what i wrote earlier because, while sundipped superman's kryptonite weakness is gone (especially more than a day, like i said but you can't read apparently), and his bio-electric aura if strengthened and expanded can reach out to intangible objects as well (if not then read ahead). And if superman is as fast as or faster than surfer after (a day or more) of sun-dipping, then how will he touch/get close to superman (this is if the bio-electric aura can be disproved)? Please read this time.

You have everything right except for the speed thing. Superman at least needs a 6–8 day of being sundipped to reache surfer speed, so unless he gets to surfer's level, he's not touching him. And the OP didn't state that Superman is sundipped, so your comment is invalid and doesn't count. Surfer murders him, get over it. Now stop riding superman's d***.

#192 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (3182 posts) - - Show Bio

There is noway supes can stop(or even hit) surfer.

#193 Posted by BatWatch (3253 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman One Million would kick Surfer's ass, and I think regular Supes could give him a moderate fight, but Supes would fall in the end. Surfer draws energy from the universe itself, right? He simply has more stamina and probably more power. Now, somebody did mention Superman having a close range advantage, but I'd guess that Surfer could probably outrun Supes. Debatable. I think Supes might have him beat in reaction time, but...who knows...

#194 Edited by kcaz (1371 posts) - - Show Bio

Supes prime One Million will win. but regular supes doesnt stand a chance, because SS is a cosmic being. this is an unfair battle

#195 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer doesn't win... He stomps and this isn't even a battle.

#196 Posted by Om4zd (929 posts) - - Show Bio

So.....shouldn't this be locked? After four years?

#197 Edited by jojjimbo (2463 posts) - - Show Bio

Why are people bringing up Superman 1 Million? hes not in this fight...don't be bitter because regular Sups loses this fight, he cant win them all.

P.S. Silver Surfer wins

#198 Posted by Jeronimo (740 posts) - - Show Bio

@Om4zd said:

So.....shouldn't this be locked? After four years?

Agreed.

#199 Edited by SlimJ87D (10992 posts) - - Show Bio

@jameshebrew said:

@acer51: either can ss without his board and hes been known to be separated from it b4, i think supes could do this

superman can still leap tall buildings in a single bound

This is ridiculous. Did you not see him fight the runner at all? They're pretty much moving through the Universe at high speeds, and even though Silver Surfer gets knocked off his board with enough force to stay motionless in space he's able to call his board back within milliseconds. Judging from the speeds they were traveling he obtained his board multiple times before it even got a few meters away while they were traveling at great speeds in space.

Runner even makes the comment that Silver Surfer can't fly without his board or travel in space, and then Silver Surfer tells him that even though that is true, the board is completely under his control and he redirects it making it perform an instant 180 and it comes back to him right away.

His fight with the runner proves that Superman doesn't have any true speed advantage over him.

Now you're debating that even Golden Age Superman can beat Silver Surfer? Without flight he doesn't even have a true speed advantage over Silver Surfer anymore. This just got even more ridiculous.

The only arguments I really heard from you out of this whole debate was just you sitting back and criticizing on what the Silver Surfer can and can't do in this fight. You keep handicapping him and downplaying all of his feats claiming "Oh those aren't going to work on Superman" without any evidence whatsoever that Superman can even do anything to Silver Surfer who can go intangible: http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/79967/1654643-1286964_assphase_super_super.jpg

Fights inside of a black hole without his board (Durability): http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9323/galactusthedevourer217yj3.jpg

Dodges and attacks against multiple laser beam fire in one panel (Speed and multitasking ability with energy blast): http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1935/silversurfer199003316ik9.jpg

Instantly calculates a teleporters spot of teleportation by using his ability to see infrared energies and the direction that they were choosing to teleport and shoots him (Fast reaction time and calculating ability, also shows he can see energy and its directional path): http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6231/silversurfer198902312rp5.jpg

Surfer has microscopic and sub atomic vision, can see the entire EM spectrum, and can even see on Spectro levels (Showing that he can scan energy and where it is going)

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/88...fer03702yg5.jpg

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/...fer03703kp8.jpg

Senses Gladiator’s weakness (proving he can just scan your weaknesses)

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/...ourer518no4.jpg

Can sense specific details about people(like their race and any powers they have)

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/...99600411no5.jpg\

And here is his triumph card over Superman, energy manipulation feats

Matter to energy conversion and absorption
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/...11matteruj2.jpg

Drains his double who’s his exact equal in power in a matter of seconds
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/...47absorbdr2.jpg

Drains gamma radiation from Hulk
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/...lkv22503oj5.jpg

Absorbs power from Firelord and then uses it to overload him
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/...98901921ts2.jpg

Absorbs multiple energy blast and uses the energy to jump start a nearby star
(Please note however, that Surfer was interrupted while in the process of doing it on his own. He just as easily could’ve powered up further using cosmic rays given sufficient time. So even though the absorbed energy was helpful, it wasn’t NECESSARY.)
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/...v3103p16fd9.jpg
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/...v3103p17qd1.jpg
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/...v3103p18sa8.jpg
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/...v3103p19ox6.jpg
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/...v3103p20jo2.jpg
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/...v3103p21jo7.jpg

Absorbs cosmic rays from space while INSIDE of Ego
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/...98902214el8.jpg

Draws extra power from a black hole
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/...30ampinghh6.jpg

Amps power by absorbing energy from a sun
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/49...ade04morqd3.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/...ade04morjl3.jpg
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/88...ade04morcx0.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/...ade04morwz5.jpg

Resist life force absorption
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/...200140ovxb3.jpg
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/...200142ovur0.jpg

Resist power absorption from Rouge
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/...324roguerm2.jpg
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/...326roguesq8.jpg

Overloads energy absorber
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/...rv306209ar3.jpg

Overloads Dr. Spectrum
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/...ers11311vj1.jpg

This isn't even half of the things the Silver Surfer has done. Silver Surfer is to versatile, while your only argument as to how Superman wins is by him punching him while we the majority can write up dozens of reasons of how and why the SIlver Surfer can defeat Superman. You're only arguments have been to restrict the Silver Surfer of his abilities or trying to find loop holes and handicaps as to why the Silver Surfer can't use his powers the way he does.

Silver Surfer takes it.

Scans are credited to User darthgoober over at KMC. Thank you Darthgoober.

#200 Posted by Bo88gdan (4864 posts) - - Show Bio

SUrfer