Shuma gorath vs Dormammu

These classic Dimensional Warlords have finally clashed in a all out war, shall the flaming skull triumph or will the tentacled Eyeball win?

Wow. This is a tough one.Im leaning towards SG.

Didn't Shuma got defeated by Dr. Strange? thats just sad. 

"Didn't Shuma got defeated by Dr. Strange? thats just sad. "

Shuma Gorath's personal powers are far greater than those of Dormammu

"Shuma Gorath's personal powers are far greater than those of Dormammu"

"the creator said:

"Shuma Gorath's personal powers are far greater than those of Dormammu"

Agreed."

"Duke Checkmate III said:

"the creator said:

"Shuma Gorath's personal powers are far greater than those of Dormammu"

Agreed."

I really do not know for sure.Even Strange has stated that Dormammu is one his most powerful foes."

shuma wins

Shuma crushes dormammu

So its agreed that shuma and his armies devour dormammu's dimension?

"Didn't Shuma got defeated by Dr. Strange? thats just sad. "

O.K so personally Dormammu doesn't have a shot, how about resources wise?  As In armies and crap like that.

Goraths armies are much bigger

Well I guess Dormammu can kiss his flaming @$$ goodbye after this battle, maybe Gorath may consider using Dormammu as a vassal.  If he's feeling nice.

Bump.

So the fate is Dormammu is A oblvion B Imprionsment C. vassalage to Shuma gorath.  D ends up being eaten as a light snack to increase shuma's power.

"So the fate is Dormammu is A oblvion B Imprionsment C. vassalage to Shuma gorath.  D ends up being eaten as a light snack to increase shuma's power."

"Dreadnaught said:

"So the fate is Dormammu is A oblvion B Imprionsment C. vassalage to Shuma gorath.  D ends up being eaten as a light snack to increase shuma's power."

All of the above."

"Fantasma Ghost said:

"Dreadnaught said:

"So the fate is Dormammu is A oblvion B Imprionsment C. vassalage to Shuma gorath.  D ends up being eaten as a light snack to increase shuma's power."

All of the above."

How can he be nonexistent and pay homage to Shuma as his Lieutenant at the same time?"

"Dreadnaught said:

"Fantasma Ghost said:

"Dreadnaught said:

"So the fate is Dormammu is A oblvion B Imprionsment C. vassalage to Shuma gorath.  D ends up being eaten as a light snack to increase shuma's power."

All of the above."

How can he be nonexistent and pay homage to Shuma as his Lieutenant at the same time?"

Step by step."

"Fantasma Ghost said:

"Dreadnaught said:

"Fantasma Ghost said:

"Dreadnaught said:

"So the fate is Dormammu is A oblvion B Imprionsment C. vassalage to Shuma gorath.  D ends up being eaten as a light snack to increase shuma's power."

All of the above."

How can he be nonexistent and pay homage to Shuma as his Lieutenant at the same time?"

Step by step."

So B, than C, if Dormammu fails, D, which inevitably leads to A?"

"Dreadnaught said:

"Fantasma Ghost said:

"Dreadnaught said:

"Fantasma Ghost said:

"Dreadnaught said:

"So the fate is Dormammu is A oblvion B Imprionsment C. vassalage to Shuma gorath.  D ends up being eaten as a light snack to increase shuma's power."

All of the above."

How can he be nonexistent and pay homage to Shuma as his Lieutenant at the same time?"

Step by step."

So B, than C, if Dormammu fails, D, which inevitably leads to A?"

You got it."

"Didn't Shuma got defeated by Dr. Strange? thats just sad.  "

Shuma Gorath can defeat Dormammu... even though Dormammu has infinite magical powers... Dormammu's magic really isnt on the Reality Warping level of Shuma Gorath Agreeded

Dormammu has far superior feats so he tears Gorath a new butt in his realm or out.

" Dormammu has far superior feats so he tears Gorath a new butt in his realm or out. "

" @oldmagic said:

"Didn't Shuma got defeated by Dr. Strange? thats just sad.  "

Old thread.  Fast forward to Ultimatum 4.

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" @High Revolutionary said:

" @oldmagic said:

"Didn't Shuma got defeated by Dr. Strange? thats just sad.  "

Old thread.  Fast forward to Ultimatum 4.

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Pure Awesomeness. I think bad guys should be allowed to kill a major character in an awesome way at least every once in a while. Even though its ultimate U its still pretty cool to see... "

Shuma Gorath stomps...
 
@Cypher's Gambit said:

" @A_Nonny_Moose said:

" Dormammu has far superior feats so he tears Gorath a new butt in his realm or out. "

Dormammu took over one Eternity. Shuma took over 300? "

Well when Shuma appears against Dormammu in MvC3 D-man says "Ancient One what is your bidding?". Just throwing that in there.

" Well when Shuma appears against Dormammu in MvC3 D-man says "Ancient One what is your bidding?". Just throwing that in there. "

i actually read somewhere that Dormammu already expressed inferiority to Shuma-Gorath.. 

" i actually read somewhere that Dormammu already expressed inferiority to Shuma-Gorath..  "

" i actually read somewhere that Dormammu already expressed inferiority to Shuma-Gorath..  "

" @lord_oraculous016 said:

" i actually read somewhere that Dormammu already expressed inferiority to Shuma-Gorath..  "

"A mouse in a great temple."
 
 
 
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" @Cypher's Gambit said:

" @lord_oraculous016 said:

" i actually read somewhere that Dormammu already expressed inferiority to Shuma-Gorath..  "

"A mouse in a great temple."
 
 
 
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lol.. but actually the whole mice in a great temple were directed to Mephisto and Satannish.. the one i was referring to was this.. 

i think this was just all creation of Shuma and Strange even said that Dormammu would be too arrogant to express inferiority to Shuma-Gorath.. but feat-wise and semantics, Shuma-Gorath is leagues above Dormammu..  "

So I guess we all agree Shuma wins?

LOL Dormammu stomps. He fought Eternity and fought Odin himself in Asgard. Not to mentioned he chained up Zom. Gorath only has hyperbole in his favor while Dormammu has actual feats. 
 
Good day suckas.

Dormammu's power is large, but Shuma is in a league all his own. Dormammu loses.

dormammu has potentially unlimited power and sources to gain from it, but shuma is potentially and had been trans-infinite.

Shuma should win this.

If the battle takes place in the Chaos dimension then he wins. If it takes place in the Dark Dimension Dormammu wins. If it takes place outside of either of their own dimensions the battle really could go either way.

Doctor Strange has defeated Shuma-Gorath twice whereas when Dormammu chose not to invade Earth and not destroy Doctor Strange because of having honor towards Strange for helping put the Mindless Ones back in their place in their battle. Also Dormammu is MUCH more powerful since then. Umar has beaten Strange and Dormammu has would never lose to Umar. Not only that but Dormammu's feats are greater so that leads me to side with him in this.

Facepalm.