Shiva's League of Assassins VS Daredevil & Friends

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#1  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Likely a lot of speculation here since Mad Dog and Alpha's showings are rather limited.

 

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The woods, midday.  Unpopulated.

 

Rules:

-Begin 30 feet apart.

-Random enounter.

-Morals apply.

-Standard elimination rules.

 

Mad Dog (large blade)

Alpha (9mm pistol)

Shrike (standard assortment of melee weapons/throwing weapons)

 

VS

 

Daredevil (twin batons)

Moon Knight (carbonadium armor/standard assortment of melee/throwing weapons)

Black Widow (Natasha - standard wrist weapons and gear)

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#2  Edited By entropy_aegis

Team 2.We already did Moonknight vs Shrike,Mad dog should give Daredevil some problems but he's too stupid and unstable to get a victory.
Alpha has next to no showings at all,i'm not sure if he can beat Widow.But either way Daredevil carries it for him team barely,even if Shrike and Alpha beat their respective opponents Murdock should eventually handle them.

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#3  Edited By Bucketz

Hmm, I say Team 2.

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#4  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@entropy_aegis said:

Team 2.We already did Moonknight vs Shrike,Mad dog should give Daredevil some problems but he's too stupid and unstable to get a victory.Alpha has next to no showings at all,i'm not sure if he can beat Widow.But either way Daredevil carries it for him team barely,even if Shrike and Alpha beat their respective opponents Murdock should eventually handle them.


-Moon Knight vs Shrike is unresolved.  Shrike is more skilled and Moon Knight simply needs his armor to stand a chance. T he debate is still open.

-Mad Dog might not be bright, but he's absolutely brutal and extremely fast, too. 

-Alpha unfortunately only has 3 combat showings, but I'm confident it was implied he's more skilled than Moony or Natasha.  After all, he was picked by Cain to train Cassie for a reason.  As well as by Shiva to train with Mad Dog.

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#5  Edited By entropy_aegis

Okay so while Nat and Marc give Shrike and Alpha a good fight,DD beats MD and beats the other 2 guys barely.

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#6  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

I agree Daredevil is likely the most skilled and strongest combatant here, but I don't believe it would be that easy to best Mad Dog.  Shiva made short work of him, but she's freaking Shiva so it's kind of to be expected, lol.  However, I also view Black Widow as the weakest link.
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#7  Edited By entropy_aegis

Team does have the weapons advantage.

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#8  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Due to Black Widow, but I also see her as being the weak link.  Besides, Shrike has throwing weapons and a heavy array of melee weapons, while Alpha has his pistol (which we can only assume he's skilled with).  Frankly, I believe Moon Knight requires his melee weapons to hang with any of them.
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#9  Edited By entropy_aegis

Would'nt team 2 have the team work advantage?

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#10  Edited By Ramtha07


I'd give it to team two. But this, admittedly, is due to my having far more knowledge on said team.

Know a little about Shrike ... anyone care to educate me a little more on Mad Dog and Alpha?

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#11  Edited By entropy_aegis
@Ramtha07:
Mad Dog was Cassandra Cain's failed predecessor,the reason he failed cause he was unstable.Lady Shiva said he was skilled,he also got some good hits on Cassandra(infact IIRC he actually killed her) but this was after she was fatigued after fighting Shiva herself,some of her students(which include Shrike) some Zombies and Mr Freeze.Plus she did'nt want to fight him either.I don't recall anything significant with Alpha from the top of my head but i'll prolly re-read his limited stuff.
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#12  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@entropy_aegis
Technically, yes.  But at the same time I don't see that being a huge factor because I imagine everyone would be rather occupied.
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#13  Edited By entropy_aegis
@k4tzm4n:
True but i still say team 2 unless Shiva herself joins the fray.I presume your eyes were popping out from your skull while you were reading Batgirl? lol.
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#14  Edited By Ramtha07
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Thanks! Still leaning toward team 2 ... DD is top tier material.
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#15  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

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I wanted to leave Shiva out of this because then I'd have to place someone from Marvel on her level.  Then the debate just comes down to those two, LOL.

 

Perhaps I'm overestimating Mad Dog's combat effectiveness.  Like Shiva said, he's talented but lacks elegance.  His speed was also impressive and despite the proper technique, I found him rather brutal in combat.  I wish he and Alpha had more showings, because as is it's incredibly tough to debate over them, but I feel like there's enough to at least speculate (like we currently are).  The Cassie VS Shiva fight in the last issue was amazingly awesome.

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#16  Edited By entropy_aegis
@k4tzm4n:
Yeah but it was too short.
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#17  Edited By entropy_aegis

Next up Mad Dog vs Bane.

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#18  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
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LOL. 
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#19  Edited By TrueIlluminatus

Gonna give this too team 2. Natasha and Spector are incredibly well trained, and Daredevil has more than plenty experience.