#1 Posted by serum (389 posts) - - Show Bio

Shao Kahn is the Emperor of Outworld known for his godlike strength, extreme brutality and knowledge of black magic Like his subordinate Shang Tsung, he has the power to consume others' souls. Later in the series, his abilities are toned down to make other bosses appear superior.

Unlike Shao Kahn, Shinnok relies less on brute strength and fear-mongering, but more on magical powers and ancient artifacts. He is the ruler of the Netherrealm, possessing millions of years' worth of knowledge and power, including the ability to perfectly impersonate any other beings of his choosing, as well as to transform into an immense demon. He also possesses extreme cunning, as well as the ability to manipulate events through others.

#2 Posted by Edamame (27987 posts) - - Show Bio

Shinnok should be able to defeat Shao Kahn without too much trouble due to his superior magical abilities. Furthermore, Shinnok has had all of this power and knowledge for millions and millions of years. If that isn't a long time, then I don't know what is. So that should give a clue as to who has (and had) more experience with regards to using magical powers. Obviously, the more experienced the combatant is, the more skilled he/she will be. Shao Kahn's knowledge is mostly confined to the black arts, and this knowledge is minute compared to the knowledge that Shinnok has. While Shao Kahn is well-known for his arrogance and overconfidence, Shinnok is most well-known for his wisdom and cunning. So this should also give a clue as to why Shinnok has the advantage here. Besides, Shinnok should always be beyond what Shao Kahn is or could ever be because of his "Fallen Elder God" status. Shao Kahn's superior physical abilities (strength and such) won't really matter.

#3 Posted by Transmetal (286 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edamame said:

Shinnok should be able to defeat Shao Kahn without too much trouble due to his superior magical abilities. Furthermore, Shinnok has had all of this power and knowledge for millions and millions of years. If that isn't a long time, then I don't know what is. So that should give a clue as to who has (and had) more experience with regards to using magical powers. Obviously, the more experienced the combatant is, the more skilled he/she will be. Shao Kahn's knowledge is mostly confined to the black arts, and this knowledge is minute compared to the knowledge that Shinnok has. While Shao Kahn is well-known for his arrogance and overconfidence, Shinnok is most well-known for his wisdom and cunning. So this should also give a clue as to why Shinnok has the advantage here. Besides, Shinnok should always be beyond what Shao Kahn is or could ever be because of his "Fallen Elder God" status. Shao Kahn's superior physical abilities (strength and such) won't really matter.


I agree fully
#4 Posted by Edamame (27987 posts) - - Show Bio

@Transmetal said:

@Edamame said:

Shinnok should be able to defeat Shao Kahn without too much trouble due to his superior magical abilities. Furthermore, Shinnok has had all of this power and knowledge for millions and millions of years. If that isn't a long time, then I don't know what is. So that should give a clue as to who has (and had) more experience with regards to using magical powers. Obviously, the more experienced the combatant is, the more skilled he/she will be. Shao Kahn's knowledge is mostly confined to the black arts, and this knowledge is minute compared to the knowledge that Shinnok has. While Shao Kahn is well-known for his arrogance and overconfidence, Shinnok is most well-known for his wisdom and cunning. So this should also give a clue as to why Shinnok has the advantage here. Besides, Shinnok should always be beyond what Shao Kahn is or could ever be because of his "Fallen Elder God" status. Shao Kahn's superior physical abilities (strength and such) won't really matter.

I agree fully

Thank you. You saved me from the stress of having to get into an argument. :)

#5 Posted by serum (389 posts) - - Show Bio

@Edamame said:

Shinnok should be able to defeat Shao Kahn without too much trouble due to his superior magical abilities. Furthermore, Shinnok has had all of this power and knowledge for millions and millions of years. If that isn't a long time, then I don't know what is. So that should give a clue as to who has (and had) more experience with regards to using magical powers. Obviously, the more experienced the combatant is, the more skilled he/she will be. Shao Kahn's knowledge is mostly confined to the black arts, and this knowledge is minute compared to the knowledge that Shinnok has. While Shao Kahn is well-known for his arrogance and overconfidence, Shinnok is most well-known for his wisdom and cunning. So this should also give a clue as to why Shinnok has the advantage here. Besides, Shinnok should always be beyond what Shao Kahn is or could ever be because of his "Fallen Elder God" status. Shao Kahn's superior physical abilities (strength and such) won't really matter.

True .. but .. in a fight 1 vs 1, Shinnok can not hurt to Shao Kahn... .. Shinnok can not be destroyed, he is a god .. Shao Kahn destroys the body to Shinnok, but Shinnok back to life .. I think it is similar to Juggernaut vs Mr.Sinister.. Mr.Sinister can not hurt to Juggernaut, but Juggernaut can not destroy to Mr.Sinister.. Shao Kahn Wins - K.O.

#6 Edited by Edamame (27987 posts) - - Show Bio

@serum said:

in a fight 1 vs 1, Shinnok can not hurt to Shao Kahn.

Yes, he certainly can.

@serum said:

Shao Kahn destroys the body to Shinnok, but Shinnok back to life ..

So, Shinnok is simply going to let Shao Kahn "destroy" his body?

@serum said:

Mr.Sinister can not hurt to Juggernaut, but Juggernaut can not destroy to Mr.Sinister.

Actually, it is plausible that the Juggernaut could knock Mr. Sinister out. However, you are right. The Juggernaut can't "kill" Mr. Sinister.

#7 Posted by serum (389 posts) - - Show Bio

@Edamame said:

@serum said:

in a fight 1 vs 1, Shinnok can not hurt to Shao Kahn.

Yes, he certainly can.

@serum said:

Shao Kahn destroys the body to Shinnok, but Shinnok back to life ..

So, Shinnok is simply going to let Shao Kahn "destroy" his body?

@serum said:

Mr.Sinister can not hurt to Juggernaut, but Juggernaut can not destroy to Mr.Sinister.

Actually, it is plausible that the Juggernaut could knock Mr. Sinister out. However, you are right. The Juggernaut can't "kill" Mr. Sinister.

Raiden is a god, like Shinnok, and he could not tickle Shao Kahn .. understand now?

#8 Edited by Edamame (27987 posts) - - Show Bio

@serum: So you are comparing Shinnok to Raiden simply because they both were/are Elder Gods?

You do realize that Raiden doesn't have the same powers and abilities that Shinnok has, right? That should be self-evident.

Raiden gets weakened and loses his powers whenever he enters a domain that isn't native to him, and Outworld is the best example of this.

#9 Posted by serum (389 posts) - - Show Bio

@Edamame said:

@serum: So you are comparing Shinnok to Raiden simply because they both were/are Elder Gods?

You do realize that Raiden doesn't have the same powers and abilities that Shinnok has, right? That should be self-evident.

Raiden gets weakened and loses his powers whenever he enters a domain that isn't native to him, and Outworld is the best example of this.

Shinnok was dead, like all .. Shao Kahn was the only winner in this war armaggedon .. Shinnok, Quan Chi and Shang Tsung were killed .. you can see in the video ..

#10 Posted by irsyadizmi (7 posts) - - Show Bio

@Edamame: couldn't have put it in a better way.

#11 Posted by serum (389 posts) - - Show Bio

@irsyadizmi said:

@Edamame: couldn't have put it in a better way.

Edamame are mistaken in their answers in this poll .. Armageddon in the war .. the only ones warriors left alive were Shao Kahn and Raiden .. Shao Kahn easily killed to Raiden.. Shinnok was killed on the sub-floor like all the other warriors .. see the video .. here there is nothing to discuss .. the video speaks for itself...

#12 Posted by Edamame (27987 posts) - - Show Bio

@serum said

Shinnok was dead, like all .. Shao Kahn was the only winner in this war armaggedon .. Shinnok, Quan Chi and Shang Tsung were killed .. you can see in the video ..

No. As a matter of fact, it was Shinnok who was basically responsible for Shao Kahn's demise and "death". Shinnok used Quan Chi to basically trick Shao Kahn into failure; Shao Kahn was "blinded by rage".

Furthermore, Quan Chi managed to survive and wasn't really dedicated to Shao Kahn's cause because he was working for Shinnok.

@serum said:

Edamame are mistaken in their answers in this poll

The soybeans are mistaken? :)

#13 Posted by TifaLockhart (14043 posts) - - Show Bio

Not to mention that's Kahn powered up by millions of souls there. My money is on Shinnok playing Kahn like a fool.

#14 Posted by serum (389 posts) - - Show Bio

@Edamame said:

@serum said

Shinnok was dead, like all .. Shao Kahn was the only winner in this war armaggedon .. Shinnok, Quan Chi and Shang Tsung were killed .. you can see in the video ..

No. As a matter of fact, it was Shinnok who was basically responsible for Shao Kahn's demise and "death". Shinnok used Quan Chi to basically trick Shao Kahn into failure; Shao Kahn was "blinded by rage".

Furthermore, Quan Chi managed to survive and wasn't really dedicated to Shao Kahn's cause because he was working for Shinnok.

@serum said:

Edamame are mistaken in their answers in this poll

The soybeans are mistaken? :)

This is not the true power of Raiden .. Raiden alluded received strange ..

#15 Posted by Edamame (27987 posts) - - Show Bio

@serum said:

This is not the true power of Raiden .. Raiden alluded received strange ..

I am sorry, but this has nothing to do with Shinnok vs. Shao Kahn. lol

#16 Posted by serum (389 posts) - - Show Bio

@Edamame said:

@serum said:

This is not the true power of Raiden .. Raiden alluded received strange ..

I am sorry, but this has nothing to do with Shinnok vs. Shao Kahn. lol

Shinnok is a God, and he is superior by nature .. but God in a human body ... Shao Khan has an unstoppable destructive power .. Shao Khan is known for his divine strength, extreme callousness and his love of personal executions .. is difficult to Shinnok defeat Shao Khan (no prep) ... Shinnok would need time to prepare to destroy Shoa Khan..

#17 Posted by hyperbeing (382 posts) - - Show Bio

um guys don't use the amregddon arguement cause that wasn't the real shinnok but a clone he sent in his place and he is an elder god and one of the elder gods that created the realms out of the body of the one being. also raiden was stated to have power that rivals shoakaun and if thats true then shinnok who outm atches raiden in terms of power out matches shokaun as well. though shoa kahn is likely a better fighter.