Just stop this thread...... Shinobi stomp with ease.
Shinigami vs Shinobi vs Marine
And judging off the fact these are non canon characters with verse composite abilities and no set in character personality to go off of....I think it's only natural we argue the best case scenario for all. And with that in mind. The shinobi could go kamui then use Ino's dads mind destruction technique to mindr*pe everyone.
@vintage_spiderman: Nah this battle will take a while, all the characters have broken hax.
@princearagorn1: ehm a single guy with all the hax of the sternitters combined the power of gremmy used wisely is enough to stomp.
Not in the slightest. They're not even hax enough to win. Heck
@princearagorn1: Come on how can you beat immagination used properly,and if you add the other hax is just overkill.The heat of the sun from yamamoto,absolute zero from rukia,shunsui games and bankai,shinji inverted world,100 millions blades from byakuya,cellular poison from gin,two hit kill from soifon,senses deprivation from tosen,paralysis and poison from mayuri,barragan respiria,zommari amor,gabriel from aporro,the quincy blut,lille barro intangibility and piercing ability,pernida nerves, regeneration, moltiplication and evolution,askin death dealing,as nodt fear,bambietta bomb power and last but not the least the almighty from ywatch.Add all kidos to the mix et voilá you have the winner of this thread,he use the forbidden kido to stop time gg.
@princearagorn1: Come on how can you beat immagination used properly,and if you add the other hax is just overkill.The heat of the sun from yamamoto,absolute zero from rukia,shunsui games and bankai,shinji inverted world,100 millions blades from byakuya,cellular poison from gin,two hit kill from soifon,senses deprivation from tosen,paralysis and poison from mayuri,barragan respiria,zommari amor,gabriel from aporro,the quincy blut,lille barro intangibility and piercing ability,pernida nerves, regeneration, moltiplication and evolution,askin death dealing,as nodt fear,bambietta bomb power and last but not the least the almighty from ywatch.Add all kidos to the mix et voilá you have the winner of this thread,he use the forbidden kido to stop time gg.
I think he meant the sternitters combined only
Well, the fight here is between the shinigami and the ninja, and i don't think the izanagi/kamui/izanami hax is enough to get past the sternitters hax, the espada hax and the gorosei hax.
The guy is immortal, as hot as the sun, as cold as absolute zero, has devilish TP, and has a series of incredibly weird capabilities on top of that.
Oh, he's a reality warper capable of casual country busting too.
Well, the fight here is between the shinigami and the ninja, and i don't think the izanagi/kamui/izanami hax is enough to get past the sternitters hax, the espada hax and the gorosei hax.
The guy is immortal, as hot as the sun, as cold as absolute zero, has devilish TP, and has a series of incredibly weird capabilities on top of that.
Oh, he's a reality warper capable of casual country busting too.
& has the ability to see, steal and negate all things, anything in his line of fire/vision erases, can control anything he touches, can age anything within a certain area and complete hypnosis
Well, the fight here is between the shinigami and the ninja, and i don't think the izanagi/kamui/izanami hax is enough to get past the sternitters hax, the espada hax and the gorosei hax.
The guy is immortal, as hot as the sun, as cold as absolute zero, has devilish TP, and has a series of incredibly weird capabilities on top of that.
Oh, he's a reality warper capable of casual country busting too.
& has the ability to see, steal and negate all things, anything in his line of fire/vision erases, can control anything he touches, can age anything within a certain area and complete hypnosis
^^that's exactly part of what i meant with " a series of increidibly weird capabilities in top of that" lol
We're also not including that he can litterally raise an army of dead, make his opponent blind, and cut anything
lol.
@thevivas: @full123: @grappolo: @xiokenji: @cosmic_lantern: what about the bonus round i added
Goku gets solo'd here most likely.
Also to fairly judge this battle we need something to base their physicals because if we go by this the ninja godstomps them both.
For example Hashirama is leaps and bounds above captains whilst Id say admirals are a bit faster also but 10,000 wouldn't even be lightwork for either. These guys are high herald - low sky father level if we take into account some of the abilities. This would make a nice 3 way CaV IMO.
A CaV with these characters would be interesting
@decaf_wizard: he can't touch nobody they are all intangible lol
Composite Marine is to Haxxed. Lightspeed+Robin Arms+Toy Touch=stomp
Almighty foresees and negates that and anything else before it happens or if Marine touches shinigami they seal there own fate via Perninda's ability to control or Barragan's ability to age
Shinobi stomps with genjutsu no one in bleach has shown tp resistance including those that uses tp like techniques, not sure about one piece but shinobi glances at his opponents he wins
Shinobi stomps with genjutsu no one in bleach has shown tp resistance including those that uses tp like techniques, not sure about one piece but shinobi glances at his opponents he wins
Almighty ability sees through Genjutsu and Shinobi gets blinded if they attempt to glance at the shinigami
@oblivion360: that is true genjutsu could stomp but the bleach guy can see the future and stop time with a kido.
@oblivion360: that is true genjutsu could stomp but the bleach guy can see the future and stop time with a kido.
Plus Shinobi gets blinded the moment he looks at shinigami
With logia intangibility on, wouldn't the marine still be able to get hit the second he's touched by water, or magma, or something else that a single logia would be weak against?
Are we assuming roughly equalized speed here? b/c in general I think the depiction of speed feats in bleach is inferior to the other 2....at least I'm sure it is to the narutoverse...am I wrong here?
Shinobi stomps with genjutsu no one in bleach has shown tp resistance including those that uses tp like techniques, not sure about one piece but shinobi glances at his opponents he wins
Almighty ability sees through Genjutsu and Shinobi gets blinded if they attempt to glance at the shinigami
Please don't start that almighty NLF nonsense when its best feats aren't even mountain level IIRC. Also the Shinobi doesn't need eyesight at all to stomp here, he has Sage senses capable of dodging FTL projectiles. Not to mention not even half of those hax will do anything to chakra, aging it is impossible, can't be absorbed (without rinnegan)/disintegrated, can't transform chakra into anything. Chakra cloak is nearly auto GG, Kamui and whilst he uses limbo clones to set up IT is GG, Kamui + amaterasu + Kirin = GG, Lightning cloak + Weight manip + Kimimaro kekkai genkai + Twin lions fist = gg. Also the Marine has a way better chance than the shinigami due to incredibly broken hax.
@princearagorn1: Come on how can you beat immagination used properly,and if you add the other hax is just overkill.The heat of the sun from yamamoto,absolute zero from rukia,shunsui games and bankai,shinji inverted world,100 millions blades from byakuya,cellular poison from gin,two hit kill from soifon,senses deprivation from tosen,paralysis and poison from mayuri,barragan respiria,zommari amor,gabriel from aporro,the quincy blut,lille barro intangibility and piercing ability,pernida nerves, regeneration, moltiplication and evolution,askin death dealing,as nodt fear,bambietta bomb power and last but not the least the almighty from ywatch.Add all kidos to the mix et voilá you have the winner of this thread,he use the forbidden kido to stop time gg.
I think he meant the sternitters combined only
1. The imagination is extraordinarily limited in use - if we're talking theoretical potential, it's the same thing as jutsu used to warp reality.
2. Really, a skilled mind controller can just make the shinigami use it on himself. Shinigami are featless against tp.. while I can list the endless number of jutsu we've seen, there's no reason to.
Are we assuming roughly equalized speed here? b/c in general I think the depiction of speed feats in bleach is inferior to the other 2....at least I'm sure it is to the narutoverse...am I wrong here?
Anyone???
That's a good point I'll have to think on that one for a minute....off the top of my head tho, didn't the Bounts use some kind of TP? And Aizen used hypnosis...some Captains showed resistance to that
@princearagorn1: Yes the visionary is limited if you take gremmy feats, anyway as i said before the shinigami can see the future. He will know when the shinobi will try to use genjutsu, he can use ichibei power to remove the powers related to the eyes,he can teleport inside his shadow with shunsui games, cast the forbidden kido to stop time and then oneshot the shinobi with yamamoto bankai or rukia bankai or shunsui bankai. There are many ways to do it.
@princearagorn1: Yes the visionary is limited if you take gremmy feats, anyway as i said before the shinigami can see the future. He will know when the shinobi will try to use genjutsu, he can use ichibei power to remove the powers related to the eyes,he can teleport inside his shadow with shunsui games, cast the forbidden kido to stop time and then oneshot the shinobi with yamamoto bankai or rukia bankai or shunsui bankai. There are many ways to do it.
aren't the shinigami technically ethereal beings that have already died? How does shinobi TP work in that case? Also if we're using multiple Zanpakuto abilities at once... then I'd go w/ Tosen's Suzumushi Tsuishiki to take away all their senses but touch and encompass them in darkness....then use Kyoraku's kageoni to attack through the giant shadow they're standing on... or his Irooni to call black and attack them both in the head where their hair is....seeming as how they both have black hair....
Quality vs Quantity. Bleach hax is way to much for the ninja's. Genjustu is not going to work on the shinagami's because they fight with their zanpakuto's. Kinda like having a tail beast inside of you. Bleach has an answer for anything that Naruto verse can throw at them.
Comparing a jinchuuriki to a Shinigami is pushing it tbh , and naruto-verse has OP seals , reality warping , space/time hax , etc.
Quality vs Quantity. Bleach hax is way to much for the ninja's. Genjustu is not going to work on the shinagami's because they fight with their zanpakuto's. Kinda like having a tail beast inside of you. Bleach has an answer for anything that Naruto verse can throw at them.
Comparing a jinchuuriki to a Shinigami is pushing it tbh , and naruto-verse has OP seals , reality warping , space/time hax , etc.
All stuff that the bleach verse has too.
And honestly, bleach verse probably has more, and it's hax is more powerful.
Quality vs Quantity. Bleach hax is way to much for the ninja's. Genjustu is not going to work on the shinagami's because they fight with their zanpakuto's. Kinda like having a tail beast inside of you. Bleach has an answer for anything that Naruto verse can throw at them.
Comparing a jinchuuriki to a Shinigami is pushing it tbh , and naruto-verse has OP seals , reality warping , space/time hax , etc.
All stuff that the bleach verse has too.
And honestly, bleach verse probably has more, and it's hax is more powerful.
Well the key techniques for the Shinibo are pretty much IT , Insta-teleport , Shinra tensei and Kumai.
Bleach verse is fairly hax , especially with Quincy hax(Illie n Gremmy)
Comes down to the Marine and Shinigami. None of the Shinobi's abilities are passive and Kizaru + Robin + Sugar equals toy slave Shinobi the instant the battle starts. From there it comes down to does the Shinigami's passive hax abilities save him from a blitz.
@stormking1221: Barragan cloak slow down time around it, not to mention yamamoto 15 million degrees cloak.
Quality vs Quantity. Bleach hax is way to much for the ninja's. Genjustu is not going to work on the shinagami's because they fight with their zanpakuto's. Kinda like having a tail beast inside of you. Bleach has an answer for anything that Naruto verse can throw at them.
Comparing a jinchuuriki to a Shinigami is pushing it tbh , and naruto-verse has OP seals , reality warping , space/time hax , etc.
All stuff that the bleach verse has too.
And honestly, bleach verse probably has more, and it's hax is more powerful.
Well the key techniques for the Shinibo are pretty much IT , Insta-teleport , Shinra tensei and Kumai.
Bleach verse is fairly hax , especially with Quincy hax(Illie n Gremmy)
I here what you are saying, but bleach has way better hax. Bleach has a legit reality warper, a guy that can take away all your abilities by saying a word. And another guy that see into the future. Every hax that the Naruto verse has can be one upped by a hax in bleach.
Comes down to the Marine and Shinigami. None of the Shinobi's abilities are passive and Kizaru + Robin + Sugar equals toy slave Shinobi the instant the battle starts. From there it comes down to does the Shinigami's passive hax abilities save him from a blitz.
@stormking1221: Barragan cloak slow down time around it, not to mention yamamoto 15 million degrees cloak.
Not one of these would effect chakra except the massive heat from yamamoto and the Shinobi is physically leaps and bounds above both.
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