Shao khan vs darth vader

Okay, so who takes it? Shao Khan or Darth Vader. The location is on out world and on the death star. Tell me who will win and why? Be honest and do not just go with your favorite character, but compare powers and feats.

Darth Vader takes this. I don't think Shao could get close. If he does, pretty sure a saber could cut threw his war hammer. Then Vader snaps his neck with the force.

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Darth Vader takes one look at hs enemy and crushes his heart inside his chest....easy win for Darth not even close to breaking a sweat

@Bane_of_sith said:

Darth Vader takes one look at hs enemy and crushes his heart inside his chest....easy win for Darth not even close to breaking a sweat

@Sci_Fi_Rulez said:

@Bane_of_sith said:

Darth Vader takes one look at hs enemy and crushes his heart inside his chest....easy win for Darth not even close to breaking a sweat

Kahn doesn't need a heart to live. Kang destroyed his heart in the MK9 story but he was still able to survive, still I guess I'd have to say Vader would win anyway. The force is just to vast and versatile, and Vader's saber give him the advantage up close.

The only thing I things Kahn (probably) has on Vader is physical strength and his soul drain. In a sense the fight could go either way depending on who shoots first. Vader won't be able to dodge or counter Kahn's soul drain but I don't think Kahn would be able to counter Vader's high end force abilities.

If I had to score it though, I'd give it to Vader 6 or 7 times out of 10. He just has more options in this fight.

Anakin.

Vader, the Force is just too versatile for Shao Khan to handle.

A lightsaber gives Vader the advantage up close, and The Force can be used to disrupt timing and afflict injury from a distance

Well, Vader has absolutely no defense against soul drain that I know of. I do know that Vader has some pretty vast TK feats and pretty impressive speed feats. So if it comes down to who shoots first, then Vader probably takes it, unless Shao Khan has more impressive speed feats.

BTW, how does Shao Khan's soul drain work? Does he require a ritual or something? Like how fast can he do it?

@onilordasmodeus said:

@Sci_Fi_Rulez said:

@Bane_of_sith said:

Darth Vader takes one look at hs enemy and crushes his heart inside his chest....easy win for Darth not even close to breaking a sweat

Kahn doesn't need a heart to live. Kang destroyed his heart in the MK9 story but he was still able to survive, still I guess I'd have to say Vader would win anyway. The force is just to vast and versatile, and Vader's saber give him the advantage up close.

The only thing I things Kahn (probably) has on Vader is physical strength and his soul drain. In a sense the fight could go either way depending on who shoots first. Vader won't be able to dodge or counter Kahn's soul drain but I don't think Kahn would be able to counter Vader's high end force abilities.

If I had to score it though, I'd give it to Vader 6 or 7 times out of 10. He just has more options in this fight.

I don't think MK9 is cannon?..i could be wrong though.Vader is able to move objects with his mine by using the force.The only way for the soul drain to work is if he kills Anakin first?.He's haves so many varieties of force abilities so it gives him more then just 6 out of 7.My opinion

Vader stomps Shao Kahn due to having way better physical feats, skill feats, and force abilities that have been posted in plenty of Star Wars threads. Vader could simply force choke Shao Kahn or kill him with telekinesis.

@onilordasmodeus said:

@WhiteWiz:The way I'd describe Kahn's soul drain is similar to force choke. The victim just gets weaker and weaker until they just waste away, though I'd say Kahn's drain is much faster. Kahn also has also stripped multiple souls (billions) at a time in mere moments.In MK9 there was no real ritual involved when Kahn drained Shang Tsung, but that game also showed a ritual that Quan Chi had to perform in order for him to create a soulnado that would have had the same affect as Kahn's drain. Quan Chi is also not as well versed in soul manipulation as Kahn or Shang is so I'd say that played a part there.The speed of Kahn's magic is really quick too. In the MK comics Kahn was able to make Raiden explode from an extreme distance (miles) with out any visual on his where abouts without any real delay. Kahn said die and Raiden "died".All that being said, the force has been shown to be comprable in speed, and more versatile in it's uses compared to Kahn's magical showings. Honestly I feel as though if the fight takes place in Outworld then Kahn has advantage, but if it is in the SWU on the Death Star, then Vader has advantage.

Hmm, pretty interesting. Shao Khan seems to have higher end feats as far as the scale in which he can utilize his drain. However, if it comes down to who attacks first, I would still lean more towards Vader, as he has precognition to allow him to anticipate an opponents attack, and he can also slow down time (in his mind) in order to react to attacks such as blaster bolts and such.

Vader. The force is too powerful for Shao Kahn magic.

@onilordasmodeus:I though Kahn had Quin Chi use magic to help him recover?

@onilordasmodeus said:

@WhiteWiz:Correct me if I'm wrong, but force precognition is subject to a physical action not a thought. Kahn doesn't have to do anything before his attack. There really wouldn't be anything that Vader would be able to read.

Vader's thought process is pretty fast, so he may be able to strike before Khan can. I'm not too knowledgeable on MK. I've always wanted to get into it as Khan seems to be a pretty interesting villain.

I wonder how well Khan could do against Vader's master, Palpatine.

In the EU, Palpatine has also shown soul manipulation, and can also possess others. Also, Palpatine has some very impressive mental powers, being able to put billions under his mental control.

Does Shao Kahn have any mental powers?

Yeah, Shao Kahn looks pretty awesome. I've always planned on getting into MK, but never got around to it. I really enjoyed the first movie they had, but the second film, however, was terrible IMO.

@onilordasmodeus:

Yes, I mean telepathy, mind control, etc..

As for Palpatine's soul manipulation, I'm not sure to what extent he can use the ability. I do know that he can possess other people with his own spirit, and can also move other people's spirits from body to body (Bevel Lemelisk). Also, there is a comic (Sithisis) in which Palpatine seemingly controls other sith spirits in order to aid him in a ritual that allowed him to manipulate the emotions of force users on a galactic scale. Not exactly sure what went on in the comic, as it has no narration, just pictures. Perhaps one of the SW experts such as Silver, JedXMan, or even Nova would know more. Still though, I don't think he has matched Kahn in that area.

Also, being a telepathic may also be something to Vader's advantage, unless Shao Kahn has a very strong will or any defense against mind control. I don't think Vader has shown very impressive mental powers, so having a very strong will may suffice for Kahn. However, against a force user like Palpatine or Vitiate, simply having a strong will would not be enough at all.

What can Kahn do?

@WhiteWiz said:

@onilordasmodeus:

Yes, I mean telepathy, mind control, etc..

As for Palpatine's soul manipulation, I'm not sure to what extent he can use the ability. I do know that he can possess other people with his own spirit, and can also move other people's spirits from body to body (Bevel Lemelisk). Also, there is a comic (Sithisis) in which Palpatine seemingly controls other sith spirits in order to aid him in a ritual that allowed him to manipulate the emotions of force users on a galactic scale. Not exactly sure what went on in the comic, as it has no narration, just pictures. Perhaps one of the SW experts such as Silver, JedXMan, or even Nova would know more. Still though, I don't think he has matched Kahn in that area.

Also, being a telepathic may also be something to Vader's advantage, unless Shao Kahn has a very strong will or any defense against mind control. I don't think Vader has shown very impressive mental powers, so having a very strong will may suffice for Kahn. However, against a force user like Palpatine or Vitiate, simply having a strong will would not be enough at all.

I apologize, but Vitiate is nothing to Sidious. Vader stomps Vitiate, there is simply not enough Vitiate can do to even prevent destruction as soon as Vader closes on him.

So much false information is being spread in this thread it should be down right illegal, If people want knowledge on the MK Universe they should go to Youtube and watch cutscenes from the game, read character bios, and looking at the ending that are canon in order to accurately evaluate a MK character rather than relying on a user who is known from fabricating and over-exaggerating feats, majority of all MK comics are non-canon to the mainstream Universe, the only ones I know that are considered canon is the Mortal Kombat Collector's Edition, Mortal Kombat II Collector's Edition, Mortal Kombat 4 Limited Edition, and Mortal Kombat: Deception Limited Edition, but none of these comics are canon to the Mortal Kombat 9 storyline which is a retcon to the MK Universe.

I enjoy both characters and Shao Kahn is pretty powerful but I going with Darth Vader because, if Vader wanted to he could just pick Kahn up and crush him. Now if Kahn did happen to get close to him it would come down to lightsaber vs war hammer fight, I dont think Vader's saber would cut Kahn's hammer cause its magically wielded but I feel like Vader is a better swordsman.

@ShootingNovasaid:

What can Kahn do?

@WhiteWiz said:

@onilordasmodeus:

Yes, I mean telepathy, mind control, etc..

As for Palpatine's soul manipulation, I'm not sure to what extent he can use the ability. I do know that he can possess other people with his own spirit, and can also move other people's spirits from body to body (Bevel Lemelisk). Also, there is a comic (Sithisis) in which Palpatine seemingly controls other sith spirits in order to aid him in a ritual that allowed him to manipulate the emotions of force users on a galactic scale. Not exactly sure what went on in the comic, as it has no narration, just pictures. Perhaps one of the SW experts such as Silver, JedXMan, or even Nova would know more. Still though, I don't think he has matched Kahn in that area.

Also, being a telepathic may also be something to Vader's advantage, unless Shao Kahn has a very strong will or any defense against mind control. I don't think Vader has shown very impressive mental powers, so having a very strong will may suffice for Kahn. However, against a force user like Palpatine or Vitiate, simply having a strong will would not be enough at all.

I apologize, but Vitiate is nothing to Sidious. Vader stomps Vitiate, there is simply not enough Vitiate can do to even prevent destruction as soon as Vader closes on him.

I don't see how that has anything to do with Vader vs. Kahn, unless Vader has displayed better telepathic feats than Vitiate.

@WhiteWiz said:

@ShootingNovasaid:

What can Kahn do?

@WhiteWiz said:

@onilordasmodeus:

Yes, I mean telepathy, mind control, etc..

As for Palpatine's soul manipulation, I'm not sure to what extent he can use the ability. I do know that he can possess other people with his own spirit, and can also move other people's spirits from body to body (Bevel Lemelisk). Also, there is a comic (Sithisis) in which Palpatine seemingly controls other sith spirits in order to aid him in a ritual that allowed him to manipulate the emotions of force users on a galactic scale. Not exactly sure what went on in the comic, as it has no narration, just pictures. Perhaps one of the SW experts such as Silver, JedXMan, or even Nova would know more. Still though, I don't think he has matched Kahn in that area.

Also, being a telepathic may also be something to Vader's advantage, unless Shao Kahn has a very strong will or any defense against mind control. I don't think Vader has shown very impressive mental powers, so having a very strong will may suffice for Kahn. However, against a force user like Palpatine or Vitiate, simply having a strong will would not be enough at all.

I apologize, but Vitiate is nothing to Sidious. Vader stomps Vitiate, there is simply not enough Vitiate can do to even prevent destruction as soon as Vader closes on him.

I don't see how that has anything to do with Vader vs. Kahn, unless Vader has displayed better telepathic feats than Vitiate.

Actually, I was simply correcting a matter in your post. Again, Vitiate's telepathic feats are not as impressive as people make him out to be.

In any regard, in a fight between Vitiate and Vader, Vader destroys him, and that was all I said.

@ShootingNova said:

@WhiteWiz said:

@ShootingNovasaid:

What can Kahn do?

@WhiteWiz said:

@onilordasmodeus:

Yes, I mean telepathy, mind control, etc..

As for Palpatine's soul manipulation, I'm not sure to what extent he can use the ability. I do know that he can possess other people with his own spirit, and can also move other people's spirits from body to body (Bevel Lemelisk). Also, there is a comic (Sithisis) in which Palpatine seemingly controls other sith spirits in order to aid him in a ritual that allowed him to manipulate the emotions of force users on a galactic scale. Not exactly sure what went on in the comic, as it has no narration, just pictures. Perhaps one of the SW experts such as Silver, JedXMan, or even Nova would know more. Still though, I don't think he has matched Kahn in that area.

Also, being a telepathic may also be something to Vader's advantage, unless Shao Kahn has a very strong will or any defense against mind control. I don't think Vader has shown very impressive mental powers, so having a very strong will may suffice for Kahn. However, against a force user like Palpatine or Vitiate, simply having a strong will would not be enough at all.

I apologize, but Vitiate is nothing to Sidious. Vader stomps Vitiate, there is simply not enough Vitiate can do to even prevent destruction as soon as Vader closes on him.

I don't see how that has anything to do with Vader vs. Kahn, unless Vader has displayed better telepathic feats than Vitiate.

Actually, I was simply correcting a matter in your post. Again, Vitiate's telepathic feats are not as impressive as people make him out to be.

In any regard, in a fight between Vitiate and Vader, Vader destroys him, and that was all I said.

I never said Vader couldn't destroy Vitiate. And while, Vitiate's telepathic abilities may not be on par with Palpatine's, they are certainly above Vader's, as far as I recall.

@WhiteWiz said:

@ShootingNova said:

@WhiteWiz said:

@ShootingNovasaid:

What can Kahn do?

@WhiteWiz said:

@onilordasmodeus:

Yes, I mean telepathy, mind control, etc..

As for Palpatine's soul manipulation, I'm not sure to what extent he can use the ability. I do know that he can possess other people with his own spirit, and can also move other people's spirits from body to body (Bevel Lemelisk). Also, there is a comic (Sithisis) in which Palpatine seemingly controls other sith spirits in order to aid him in a ritual that allowed him to manipulate the emotions of force users on a galactic scale. Not exactly sure what went on in the comic, as it has no narration, just pictures. Perhaps one of the SW experts such as Silver, JedXMan, or even Nova would know more. Still though, I don't think he has matched Kahn in that area.

Also, being a telepathic may also be something to Vader's advantage, unless Shao Kahn has a very strong will or any defense against mind control. I don't think Vader has shown very impressive mental powers, so having a very strong will may suffice for Kahn. However, against a force user like Palpatine or Vitiate, simply having a strong will would not be enough at all.

I apologize, but Vitiate is nothing to Sidious. Vader stomps Vitiate, there is simply not enough Vitiate can do to even prevent destruction as soon as Vader closes on him.

I don't see how that has anything to do with Vader vs. Kahn, unless Vader has displayed better telepathic feats than Vitiate.

Actually, I was simply correcting a matter in your post. Again, Vitiate's telepathic feats are not as impressive as people make him out to be.

In any regard, in a fight between Vitiate and Vader, Vader destroys him, and that was all I said.

I never said Vader couldn't destroy Vitiate. And while, Vitiate's telepathic abilities may not be on par with Palpatine's, they are certainly above Vader's, as far as I recall.

Vitiate's telepathy is nowhere near Palpatine's. When Vitiate enslaves the minds twenty billion beings simultaneously and effortlessly, you can tell me.

Vitiate has only enslaved (and not even permanently) the minds of defeated Jedi. Not impressive.

@ShootingNova said:

@WhiteWiz said:

@ShootingNova said:

@WhiteWiz said:

@ShootingNovasaid:

What can Kahn do?

@WhiteWiz said:

@onilordasmodeus:

Yes, I mean telepathy, mind control, etc..

As for Palpatine's soul manipulation, I'm not sure to what extent he can use the ability. I do know that he can possess other people with his own spirit, and can also move other people's spirits from body to body (Bevel Lemelisk). Also, there is a comic (Sithisis) in which Palpatine seemingly controls other sith spirits in order to aid him in a ritual that allowed him to manipulate the emotions of force users on a galactic scale. Not exactly sure what went on in the comic, as it has no narration, just pictures. Perhaps one of the SW experts such as Silver, JedXMan, or even Nova would know more. Still though, I don't think he has matched Kahn in that area.

Also, being a telepathic may also be something to Vader's advantage, unless Shao Kahn has a very strong will or any defense against mind control. I don't think Vader has shown very impressive mental powers, so having a very strong will may suffice for Kahn. However, against a force user like Palpatine or Vitiate, simply having a strong will would not be enough at all.

I apologize, but Vitiate is nothing to Sidious. Vader stomps Vitiate, there is simply not enough Vitiate can do to even prevent destruction as soon as Vader closes on him.

I don't see how that has anything to do with Vader vs. Kahn, unless Vader has displayed better telepathic feats than Vitiate.

Actually, I was simply correcting a matter in your post. Again, Vitiate's telepathic feats are not as impressive as people make him out to be.

In any regard, in a fight between Vitiate and Vader, Vader destroys him, and that was all I said.

I never said Vader couldn't destroy Vitiate. And while, Vitiate's telepathic abilities may not be on par with Palpatine's, they are certainly above Vader's, as far as I recall.

Vitiate's telepathy is nowhere near Palpatine's. When Vitiate enslaves the minds twenty billion beings simultaneously and effortlessly, you can tell me.

Vitiate has only enslaved (and not even permanently) the minds of defeated Jedi. Not impressive.

LOL. Are you trying to force a debate on me? I never said Vitiate's telepathy is anywhere near Palpatine's.

@WhiteWiz:No, but it was hinted like that.

@ShootingNova said:

@WhiteWiz:No, but it was hinted like that.

Not by me it wasn't. Maybe I implied that Vitiate's telepathy is better than Vader's (which it is), but I never said it was greater than Palps'.

@WhiteWiz: What? I never claimed you said it was above Palpatine's, but it seemed like you meant their telepathy in was in each other's league...... which isn't true.

@ShootingNova said:

@WhiteWiz: What? I never claimed you said it was above Palpatine's, but it seemed like you meant their telepathy in was in each other's league...... which isn't true.

No, I never even impied it

@WhiteWiz: Okay. And now this is 100% off-topic.

I got that implication too... and yes, this is off topic now

@JamesKM716 said:

I got that implication too... and yes, this is off topic now

And that makes this thread even more off-topic LOL.

On-topic, Vader stomps.

@JamesKM716 said:

I got that implication too... and yes, this is off topic now

I don't see how. I definitely implied that Vitiate was a greater telepath than Vader.

On topic: depends who hits first, which would probably be Vader.

@WhiteWiz: It will be Vader until there's some good speed feats for Khan.

Vader should have no problem here so long as he doesn't give Shao the chance to do anything. I think Vaders Force energy is significantly more powerful than Shao. So long as Vader does something from a distance and does not allow Khan anywhere near him physically, Vader will win. If Khan gets his hands on Vader somehow and lands a solid hit, Vader will lose.

@onilordasmodeus said:

@WhiteWiz:Kahn is my favorite villian of all. I can't say enough about him; he's pretty awesome.Palpatine vs Kahn would be much the same as the Vader fight but Palpatine has even more advantage. He is a faster and more skilled fighter than Vader, and his Force abilites are stronger. Palpatine is still suseptable to Kahn soul drain so their still is that possibility.Still, Palpatine would win 8 or 9 times out of 10.

Palpatine destroys Khan before he can react. 10/10 victory. Vader can move faster than Kahn can react.

Bumping my old school thread lol.

Awesome thread Nekro.

Vader kills Kahn before Kahn knows what happened. Kahn gets killed by peak humans. IF it were a tournament fight in the MK tournament matches, Vader is going to clean house with the Force. In Outworld, Kahn is going to wreck Vader. If powers and speed were equalized somehow, Kahn takes it because he is a warrior with 20,000 years of combat expeirence and houses skill on par with Gods. Not only just Gods...ELDER gods...vader times a thousand in combat skill is still lightyears away from that level.

TLDR: Depends on the setup.

Vader.

Hmmm... what?

Shao Kahn wins

It depends if this is EU Vader or canon.