Shang-Chi vs Jason Todd

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- Shang-Chi

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- Jason Todd (Pre-52)
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- Location:
- Shang-Chi starts at A
- Todd starts at B. 
 
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- Rules:
- Morals apply.
- Random encounter.
- Standard elimination rules apply.
- Todd is equipped with his Red Hood gear.
- Shang-chi is equipped with shurikens and a nunchaku.
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#2  Edited By jashro44

I would say shang chi. I believe he is the better fighter of the 2.

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#3  Edited By jeanroygrant

@jashro44 said:

I would say shang chi. I believe he is the better fighter of the 2.
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#4  Edited By TrueIlluminatus

Isn't Shang-Chi virtually featless?

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#5  Edited By jashro44
@Illuminatus: Shang chi has feats. There just not as impressive as people hype him up to be. 
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#6  Edited By WaveMotionCannon

Shang Chi in H2H. With equipment Jason

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#7  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Shang Chi should take this in a decent fight. Todd can likely earn some wins with his tech and dirtier tactics, but overall Chi is just more skilled.

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Jason shoots him in the face until I see some reaction feats.

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#9  Edited By AllStarSuperman  Online

What past me said.

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@allstarsuperman: Shang chi has dodged bullets after they are fired and deflected, not to mention danced around silver samurai.

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@jashro44: Sounds impressive, can I see scans? What does the Silver Samurai have for reaction/combat speed feats?

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@allstarsuperman: If we are talking about the older SS then:

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And also cutting a bullet out of the air when his sword wasn't drawn:

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#14 owie  Moderator

I'll definitely go for Shang-Chi, although he does definitely have the weapons disadvantage here.

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@jashro44: Sounds impressive, can I see scans? What does the Silver Samurai have for reaction/combat speed feats?

As for Silver Samurai here:

Bullet timing feats, and also wolverine comments that Harda was dodging his attacks to the point where they were at a stalemate (this isn't the whole fight I just posted the part that highlights Hardas speed and skill).

K4tzm4n made a respect thread for him if you want more:

http://thecomicsledger.proboards.com/thread/1325

Here is Shang Chi's showing against Harda if you want (its brief and not much of a fight):

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Good freaking matchup. There needs to be more good threads like this (as apposed to some of these dumb ridiculous posts I keep seeing like Kirby vs kylo ren and one punch man vs super Mario bros), like seriously.

Anyways I think red hood loses this one unless he can utilizes his pistols. If it come down to hand to hand then Shang chi wins. He's a better fighter, I think He might even best batman on strictly hand to hand

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This is a tough one and new 52 Jason would less likely use his pistols in a fight with a kung fu guy but those all blades are freaking tight... If its straight hand to hand Jason loses but he has a good chance with his gear of beating shang...

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#18  Edited By AllStarSuperman  Online

@newecho: @newecho: Jason still used his pistols when facing Shiva and Cheshire the first time in the new 52. Regardless this thread is using Pre-Flashpoint Jason, which is certainly not a bad thing, people tend to overrate the amp Jason received in the new 52.

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@allstarsuperman: I think new 52 is more skilled than pre flashpoint but regardless I think either can beat shang if he uses his equipment right but he loses in hand to hand

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#21  Edited By TheDandyMan

Jason doesn't have the accuracy feats to tag Shang with his pistols and while his extra equipment could help buy him a few wins, I imagine Chi will take the majority in close-quarters. Red Hood can hold his own but Chi's speed and overall fighting prowess should give him the advantage.

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@jashro44: He's at least as good as Captain America

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#24  Edited By AllStarSuperman  Online

Jason bombs him. There’s showings that say Jason could out right win (one shotting Shiva, beating Cass, beating Batman, Event Leviathan team busting), but the main thing is Shang Chi is an unarmed and unprotected hand to hand fighter, going up against a guy armed with explosives and area of effect tasers, along with hand guns that seemly defy physics when it comes to ammo capacity.