Shaman Nate Grey vs Daimon Hellstorm

Both at full power. In character. Fight starts out in NY. 100m apart.

@chiq:

i like nate .. but i have no clarity on damian ... can u provide few feats please?

Well, he is basically a Hell Lord level being. Really powerful magic, battles other hell lords. I am not sure on his TP resistance. I'll try and call some Daimon experts.

@beatboks1

hmm .. well then .. if he's real good .. then it'll be fun .. u've got x-man expert here :)

looking forward to it. :) hopefully we get a great debate going on.

@chiq:

yep .. btw .. as i have no real clarity on damian .. which power level do u think he is? .. because .. nate wins against bloodlusted martian manhunter, superman prime .. etc (has happened before) ... magic ability of loki level got defeated quite handily (i've won it in a tournament.. ).. though nate weren't allowed to use reality warping or time manipulation in those fights (and no tp control against loki was allowed too).. ... ... can u say what u think of damian?

HIs best TP resistance feat was against a servant of Osiris who was an "etherial being". I'll try and find the scans tomorrow.

@beatboks1:

is damian immortal? .. can he survive instant tk crush? .. can he come back if nate dumps him out of reality.. or somewhere around the timeline? ... i really have not much on damian

They have a lot of similar powers for me. They just are fueled by different sources. high level Magic vs uber TK and TP

I've already debated that Damian takes MMH. he has all the same abilities plus some. In a CAV I debated against Thor (another of my faves) that I can see SOS getting a an even number of wins in. He has been described as being as powerful as Classic Strange on panel. He is a time manipulator himself and can heal anyone even from death, control the earth, weather, lightning, has VAST energy manipulation, incredible durability, spells. His best feats are containing Dormammu and Black heart and defeating Mephisto and a couple other hell Lords. His magic is leagues above old Loki.

@beatboks1:

wow .. looks good then if those are true... looking forward to it :)

These days at his Hell Lord status yes

yes. he has healed the dead Seer Prohpeet in an instant by willing it and tanked as much as Thor can

yes, he can travel anywhere by dimensional travel through hell.

bump :)

you are the nate expert?

all quite good .. but out of reality isn't really dimentional travel ... dimentional travel is nothing on nate level (and i'll say damian level too by what i heard from u :)) ... out of reality means .. that place doesn't exist in reality.

no... i just like nate :)

Gallery

That's all my CV hellstrom folder

@beatboks1:

sooo small .. can't really read the lines -_-

but looks good though ...

here .. i'll give this one ... i posted this recently ... though nate were heavility restricted in the fight against mmh .. because i tried to make it a balance .. but still .. it seems nate's team isn't up to it by popular demands :D (many says PG will one shot ms marvel .. and dc will gain number advantage)

few feats of nate ...

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i have seen u bumping some years old threads .. but why are u bumping a recently created thread ? :D

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yeah .. i've seen them afterwards .. :) lol .. that was past 2 am for me then .. and i was too sleepy.. so i forgot that :D

edit: .. as i see the time ...i realised, it was past 11 pm for me .. but i gave my lab exam yesterday... standing straight for 6 hours in lab .. was tired like hell :D

Nate wins if the fight is without prep and on earth

Damian wins in hell

hmm .. does battle place matters that much? they both can shift dimensions quite easily..

and is damian stronger in hell?

Thats very true but certain places are better for one or the other. Daiman, being a hell lord, is at his most powerful in his own dimension.

i see :)

bump

@chiq: @ssj_god: youve got 2 X-man experts (c'mon ssj you know i know Nate even his Pre-Shaman :P) I'd say nate grey but @beatboks1 always finds a way of messing with people.

like before beatboks explained Hellstrom to me i didnt think Damion could beat Thor now im almost entirely convinced that he could

I don't see why Nate can't put him to sleep with TK.

A standard Hellstrom (and in New York, not in hell), for instance as last seen in the Kid Loki arc, is not as powerful as Shaman X-Man. Powerful, yes. Able to fight with Nightmare to a degree. But overall, not at X-man's level.

@kidman560:

yep .. as i said .. i just like nate as a character ... u know him good too :)

Interesting match. I say that on earth nate grey would win, but hellstorm would win in hell, although both can change the location of the battle whenever they want.

bump

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