Shaman King Hao Asakura Vs Final Form Father

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Father?

But he's so tiny?

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Father in that state has no feats, but by concept is omnipotent. He's basically god.

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Hao was literally omnipotent in the end.

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Father in that state has no feats, but by concept is omnipotent. He's basically god.

a god that got punked out by a bunch of alchemists

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Father in that state has no feats, but by concept is omnipotent. He's basically god.

If he was omnipotent he would have been able to stop his power from being taking.

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@kyrees said:

@ghostravage said:

Father in that state has no feats, but by concept is omnipotent. He's basically god.

a god that got punked out by a bunch of alchemists

Conveniently due to the souls he had inside. Sounds like Plot purpose to me!

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Father in that state has no feats, but by concept is omnipotent. He's basically god.

If he was omnipotent he would have been able to stop his power from being taking.

No, because the love of the souls, they were working against him, humans can't surrender and all that "nakama-like" type of plot manipulation didn't let him win.

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@thatguywithheadphones said:

@ghostravage said:

Father in that state has no feats, but by concept is omnipotent. He's basically god.

If he was omnipotent he would have been able to stop his power from being taking.

No, because the love of the souls, they were working against him, humans can't surrender and all that "nakama-like" type of plot manipulation didn't let him win.

Someone who was omnipotent would've still won, sorta how omnipotence works.

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@ghostravage said:

Father in that state has no feats, but by concept is omnipotent. He's basically god.

If he was omnipotent he would have been able to stop his power from being taking.

No, because the love of the souls, they were working against him, humans can't surrender and all that "nakama-like" type of plot manipulation didn't let him win.

Someone who was omnipotent would've still won, sorta how omnipotence works.

That's the same issue with PR Beyonder... Why someone omnipotent would've let his powers get stole? You know he lost his powers because of PIS. He was indeed omnipotent at least for a limited time, before the "souls against him" happened.

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Hao wins easily. I mean sure father was godly, but TEMPORARILY. Hao is the god.

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@kyrees said:

a god that got punked out by a bunch of alchemists

If he was omnipotent he would have been able to stop his power from being taking.

It was mostly for the plot. They could hardly end fma with 'and then he became omnipotent and lived happily ever after'..

And by the time edward fought him, van had already used the eclipse circle to reverse the process iirc..

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Hao wins easily. I mean sure father was godly, but TEMPORARILY. Hao is the a god.

There are other Gods in the Shaman King Universe.

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Hao wins easily. I mean sure father was godly, but TEMPORARILY. Hao is the a god.

There are other Gods in the Shaman King Universe.

Actually. Hao is THE God. Sure there are other Spririts, and Spirit Guardians, but Hao has the Great Spirit, and as such the supreme ruler of the Shaman multiverse. If you read the most recent chapter in Shaman King Flowers, you will come to know that inside of his GS, he literally created an alternate version of Yoh with his O.S and was literally having a conversation with him.

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@thatguywithheadphones said:

@lowlaville said:

Hao wins easily. I mean sure father was godly, but TEMPORARILY. Hao is the a god.

There are other Gods in the Shaman King Universe.

Actually. Hao is THE God. Sure there are other Spririts, and Spirit Guardians, but Hao has the Great Spirit, and as such the supreme ruler of the Shaman multiverse. If you read the most recent chapter in Shaman King Flowers, you will come to know that inside of his GS, he literally created an alternate version of Yoh with his O.S and was literally having a conversation with him.

Umm, no they're 8 shaman kings

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@thatguywithheadphones: ..So Hao is the current king, yes?

Yeah...but from the plot of Flowers and the scans presented it seem as so the old Gods still have a say in the matter of how he rules.

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@lowlaville said:

@thatguywithheadphones: ..So Hao is the current king, yes?

Yeah...but from the plot of Flowers and the scans presented it seem as so the old Gods still have a say in the matter of how he rules.

I agree, Hao is limited in a manner. However that limitation does not define this matchup in any manner. If any at all, the limitation presents itself with the location of the matchup. While father can summon limitless power on Earth, Hao it seems is limited to the G.S.

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Not sure if people noticed Hao casually handing out supernovas

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Not sure if people noticed Hao casually handing out supernovas

People still are debating if that count outside of his GS. It should, but you know how people can get about feats.

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Hao. He has better actual feats for one thing, and Father never showed any far reach abilities.

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The "sun" Father held was meant to destroy Amestris. That's a possible country buster. Hao is casually star+ level with supernovas.

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Going by feats, Hao.

Going by suggested power/hype/assumption, Father.

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#28  Edited By ferventking

Hao;

combined souls of all dead people ever + nature spirits > a few million souls from a country

Also, SK Hao doesn't have a physical body, so there isn't much Father can do to him.

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Hao;

combined souls of all dead people ever + nature spirits > a few million souls from a country

Also, SK Hao doesn't have a physical body, so there isn't much Father can do to him.

Finally, someone who gets it