@fanboy#1: One thing is for sure that the Shadow King would overcome Apocalypse on the astral place, since the Shadow King is an astral demon himself, a being of pure psychic energy.
" @fanboy#1: One thing is for sure that the Shadow King would overcome Apocalypse on the astral place, since the Shadow King is an astral demon himself, a being of pure psychic energy. "
correct so if sk goes to the astral plane and takes apocalypse with him he'll win shadow king ftw
@Ferro Vida: The Shadow King could use Apocalypse as a host body. Or is that not possible? Could Apocalypse attack the Shadow King with a psionic blast or bolt? I reckon if Apocalypse uses his Celestial Technology, then En Sabah Nur could feasibly defeat the Shadow King, right? %Pr
" @Ferro Vida: The Shadow King could use Apocalypse as a host body. Or is that not possible? Could Apocalypse attack the Shadow King with a psionic blast or bolt? I reckon if Apocalypse uses his Celestial Technology, then En Sabah Nur could feasibly defeat the Shadow King, right? %Pr "
Has Celestial tech ever been used on a psionic entity before? Apocalypse doesn't have psionic blasts as part of his powers. In theory he could take over Apoc's body. In an alternate universe he took over Professor X's body and crushed his mind, so it's entirely possible for him to do the same here.
@Ferro Vida: I don't even know that much about Apocalypse's Celestial technology, but I am sure it can be used to his advantage, no? I am sure that Apocalypse's Celestial Technology gave Apocalypse his other numerous powers and abilities.
Well, any telepath can attack with psionic blasts and Apocalypse is a telepath. However, Apocalypse is not a natural telepath, right? In other words, Apocalypse was not born with telepathy as a part of his innate mutant powers and abilities, right? What powers was Apocalypse born with? It depends if Apocalypse is telepathically resistant enough to resist the Shadow King.
Would the TO virus, that Apocalypse has, or Apocalypse's metallic armor pose a problem for the Shadow King to use En Sabah Nur as a host body?
@Spurtle said:
" Shadow King would scare Apocalypse because he is very scary looking and then he would win. "
" @Ferro Vida: I don't even know that much about Apocalypse's Celestial technology, but I am sure it can be used to his advantage, no? I am sure that Apocalypse's Celestial Technology gave Apocalypse his other numerous powers and abilities.
Well, any telepath can attack with psionic blasts and Apocalypse is a telepath. However, Apocalypse is not a natural telepath, right? In other words, Apocalypse was not born with telepathy as a part of his innate mutant powers and abilities, right? What powers was Apocalypse born with? It depends if Apocalypse is telepathically resistant enough to resist the Shadow King.
Would the TO virus, that Apocalypse has, or Apocalypse's metallic armor pose a problem for the Shadow King to use En Sabah Nur as a host body?
@Spurtle said:
" Shadow King would scare Apocalypse because he is very scary looking and then he would win. "
LOL. %Pr "
But there is no evidence of it being able to do that, so it can't really be used as an argument. It's purely speculation.
I have never seen Apocalypse exercise the ability to use telepathy or any other telepathic abilities. That's why he kept Shadow King around in the Age of Apocalypse story arc. The tech did augment his abilities, but it did not give him psychic powers. His original ability was superhuman strength, and the alien tech allows him to make weapons from his body and to change himself.
The TO virus has not served that purpose for Cable in the past. Do you have evidence of protecting him?
@Ferro Vida: Apocalypse defeated Jean Grey via telepathy. I believe it was in "The Twelve" storyline.
So basically Apocalypse was naturally born like a kind of Hulk? Apocalypse was just born with superhuman strength? Or was he also born with healing factor, growing to large sizes, shape shifting and etc.?
Sorry, but I am befuddled by your last question. Please re-phrase it in a clearer way, if you don't mind. Thanks. %Pr
" @Ferro Vida: Apocalypse defeated Jean Grey via telepathy. I believe it was in "The Twelve" storyline. So basically Apocalypse was naturally born like a kind of Hulk? Apocalypse was just born with superhuman strength? Or was he also born with healing factor, growing to large sizes, shape shifting and etc.? Sorry, but I am befuddled by your last question. Please re-phrase it in a clearer way, if you don't mind. Thanks. %Pr "
Sorry, I don't recall that. I will take your word for it, though.
Not quite, but I know that superhuman strength was at least part of his original power. Pretty much everything else came enhancement unless I am mistaken.
My bad. Has the TO virus ever defended him from psionic assaults in the past?
@Ferro Vida: Oh. No. But Proteus for example, I believe, is vulnerable to metals whenever he wants to use someone as a host body. Don't know if it is the same for Shadow King. %Pr
" @Ferro Vida: Oh. No. But Proteus for example, I believe, is vulnerable to metals whenever he wants to use someone as a host body. Don't know if it is the same for Shadow King. %Pr "
Oh, now I see what you meant. No, Shadow King has had no such problems in the past. It takes a powerful psychic to hurt him on the astral plane.
@Ferro Vida: Yeah, but the Shadow King has a lot of telepathic skill, experience and raw power. Shadow King's raw power is Xavier's raw power. Shadow King's skill is above Xavier's, most of the time. The Shadow King himself is an astral demon and is a parasitic entity, meaning that no one can really defeat the Shadow King on the astral plane.
Psylocke can't be affected because of her immunity? Rogue lacks telepathic skill. Still the Shadow King has existed since the dawn of humanity and is older than Damask.
Mystique in Age of Apocalypse defeated Shadow King. %Pr
@Ferro Vida: True. But Shadow King, like Exodus underestimates his foes and the Shadow King likes to playfully toy with people's minds and not take them seriously. %Pr
" @Ferro Vida: True. But Shadow King, like Exodus underestimates his foes and the Shadow King likes to playfully toy with people's minds and not take them seriously. %Pr "
True, but assuming he is going all out here, Shadow King would crush Apocalypse's mind
" @Ferro Vida: Uncanny X-Men #275 "That one mention was never followed up on. We have no idea what happened." %Pr "
Well both survived and it was never mentioned again, so we can't really draw much from that. The dialogue box states that he didn't win, he merely survived.
Bump.... Apocalypse wouldn't be dumb enough to try to fight SK on the astral plane..... He would do what Archangel did and let the Sk inside his mind, and destroy the astral form the SK, even thou it would not kill him, only the astral form of him inside Apocalypse's mind....
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