All it say is that she can break them down molecule by molecule. wow a bunch of humans like Cap and Black widow, cept herc of course
Doesnt say anything bout her speed
Sersi vs Wonder Woman
"mira said:Maybe you should know that Sersi has really strong mind."King Saturn said:Her Transmutation and Telekinesis powers are thought based abilities... she has to think to use them...""Sersi still has to think to do anything to Wonder Woman though...What do you mean?"
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You can look it up under her list of powers. She can fly and move around lightspeed. So far I've yet to see anything that proves that Diana has any defense against a single one of Sersi's powers. The whole "she needs to think" argument is complete bullshit and everyone knows it. Every character thinks before they do anything, it's a basic brain function.
"King Saturn said:Doesnt matter how strong her mind is, if her reflex and thought processing cant keep up, then it wont do her any good"mira said:Maybe you should know that Sersi has really strong mind.""King Saturn said:Her Transmutation and Telekinesis powers are thought based abilities... she has to think to use them...""Sersi still has to think to do anything to Wonder Woman though...What do you mean?"
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"You can look it up under her list of powers. She can fly and move around lightspeed. So far I've yet to see anything that proves that Diana has any defense against a single one of Sersi's powers. The whole "she needs to think" argument is complete bullshit and everyone knows it. Every character thinks before they do anything, it's a basic brain function."Yeah.
"Basic status puts Sersi around lightspeed. That goes for about most Eternals. And among her list of powers is teleporting. Also, I don't see the relevance of arguing the fact she things. Diana has to think before she moves a muscle and yet you ignore that factor and try to say Sersi doesn't think faster than a normal human? Really now. And Sersi doesn't need to really think to use her power. She turned a cat into a dragon with a twitch of her fingers by accident. The whole speedblitz argument is rather old. If it comes right down to it she can change her own molecules at will and Diana will just pass right through her. She can put herself and others out of phase into a death-like state and completely negate the effects of a Negative Zone Bomb that was capable of demolishing a galaxy.The Concept of " At Will " is a concept that takes Thought dude... you have to process a thought you use your will in anything... now the problem is I think what you are missing is how fast you can process a thought... it can happen insanely fast... but the point is Wonder Woman could react before her thought of anything was truly in action at all...
Does that make her a galaxy buster? No. It just shows how insane her transmutation abilities are."
"And yet you have nothing to prove that she can counter a blitz from Wonder Woman"Actually I already have. She already has around lightspeed ability, which means she can react to Diana. All Sersi has to do is create a shield around herself. That's it. Sersi uses Cosmic Energy. She's like a slightly watered down version of the Silver Surfer, except her transmuting abilities are much higher. Diana charges at Sersi, Sersi turns her into a 5yr old little girl trying to win a beauty pageant.
"CuzISaidso said:Proof please"And yet you have nothing to prove that she can counter a blitz from Wonder Woman"Actually I already have. She already has around lightspeed ability, which means she can react to Diana. All Sersi has to do is create a shield around herself. That's it. Sersi uses Cosmic Energy. She's like a slightly watered down version of the Silver Surfer, except her transmuting abilities are much higher. Diana charges at Sersi, Sersi turns her into a 5yr old little girl trying to win a beauty pageant."
"Rei-Kai said:Thats Right... every character does think before they react... but Diana's reaction time is greater than Sersi's... and quite frankly what will it matter how fast Sersi can move if she is already KOed ?"You can look it up under her list of powers. She can fly and move around lightspeed. So far I've yet to see anything that proves that Diana has any defense against a single one of Sersi's powers. The whole "she needs to think" argument is complete bullshit and everyone knows it. Every character thinks before they do anything, it's a basic brain function."Yeah."
"Basic status puts Sersi around lightspeed.."Rei-Kai said:
"You can look it up under her list of powers. She can fly and move around lightspeed.I don't see this anywhere. Give me the source, or some evidence of this.
Rei-Kai said:
"The whole "she needs to think" argument is complete bullshit and everyone knows it.Maybe if it can't be argued against, I would understand. LOL.
She can teleport..which by Marvel standards makes her LS.I don't think she can fly currently though and definitely not at light speed."You can look it up under her list of powers. She can fly and move around lightspeed.I don't see this anywhere. Give me the source, or some evidence of this.
"mira said:But Diana has weaker mind than Sersi. So I think that Sersi can react faster."Rei-Kai said:Thats Right... every character does think before they react... but Diana's reaction time is greater than Sersi's... and quite frankly what will it matter how fast Sersi can move if she is already KOed ?""You can look it up under her list of powers. She can fly and move around lightspeed. So far I've yet to see anything that proves that Diana has any defense against a single one of Sersi's powers. The whole "she needs to think" argument is complete bullshit and everyone knows it. Every character thinks before they do anything, it's a basic brain function."Yeah."
"King Saturn said:That is the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard."mira said:But Diana has weaker mind than Sersi. So I think that Sersi can react faster.""Rei-Kai said:Thats Right... every character does think before they react... but Diana's reaction time is greater than Sersi's... and quite frankly what will it matter how fast Sersi can move if she is already KOed ?""You can look it up under her list of powers. She can fly and move around lightspeed. So far I've yet to see anything that proves that Diana has any defense against a single one of Sersi's powers. The whole "she needs to think" argument is complete bullshit and everyone knows it. Every character thinks before they do anything, it's a basic brain function."Yeah."
"Static Shock said:Correct... Sersi cannot travel at Lightspeed through Flight... its her Teleportation powers that make her FTL... but since Sersi's raw reaction time isnt that great... she could still be taken out by Blitz...She can teleport..which by Marvel standards makes her LS.I don't think she can fly currently though and definitely not at light speed.""You can look it up under her list of powers. She can fly and move around lightspeed.I don't see this anywhere. Give me the source, or some evidence of this.
"Vance Astro said:Why do you think that Diana reaction time is better? If someone has stronger mind then his reaction time is better. Can you explain it to me please?"Static Shock said:Correct... Sersi cannot travel at Lightspeed through Flight... its her Teleportation powers that make her FTL... but since Sersi's raw reaction time isnt that great... she could still be taken out by Blitz... "She can teleport..which by Marvel standards makes her LS.I don't think she can fly currently though and definitely not at light speed.""You can look it up under her list of powers. She can fly and move around lightspeed.I don't see this anywhere. Give me the source, or some evidence of this.
It's under her listed powers. Try looking them up. She's even flown in space before. She's one of the top Earth Eternals. She's right up there with Ikaris in flight speed and he tries to race with Makkari, who's FTL. Now, prove to me Diana doesn't get immediately raped by transmutation.
She can teleport..which by Marvel standards makes her LS.I don't think she can fly currently though and definitely not at light speed."Is it somewhere on Warlock's level? Because I know his teleportation is a means of instantaneous travel, and was labeled as light speed in the Handbook. Just because you can teleport doesn't mean it's instantaneous. For example: Nightcrawler.
mira said:
"But Diana has weaker mind than Sersi. So I think that Sersi can react faster."Uhhhhh....?
"It's under her listed powers. Try looking them up. She's even flown in space before. She's one of the top Earth Eternals. She's right up there with Ikaris in flight speed and he tries to race with Makkari, who's FTL. Now, prove to me Diana doesn't get immediately raped by transmutation."Link please? I love it when people make claims about someones powers without any evidence
Lemme give it a try
ZOMG SUPERMAN CAN BLOW UP TEH UNIVERSE WITH HIS ASS !!!! L337
hey that is kinda fun
"King Saturn said:Sorry but, you are an idiot"Vance Astro said:Why do you think that Diana reaction time is better? If someone has stronger mind then his reaction time is better. Can you explain it to me please?""Static Shock said:Correct... Sersi cannot travel at Lightspeed through Flight... its her Teleportation powers that make her FTL... but since Sersi's raw reaction time isnt that great... she could still be taken out by Blitz... "She can teleport..which by Marvel standards makes her LS.I don't think she can fly currently though and definitely not at light speed.""You can look it up under her list of powers. She can fly and move around lightspeed.I don't see this anywhere. Give me the source, or some evidence of this.
"Vance Astro said:It's simple. Stronger mind = her brain can react faster.She can teleport..which by Marvel standards makes her LS.I don't think she can fly currently though and definitely not at light speed."Is it somewhere on Warlock's level? Because I know his teleportation is a means of instantaneous travel, and was labeled as light speed in the Handbook. Just because you can teleport doesn't mean it's instantaneous. For example: Nightcrawler.
mira said:"But Diana has weaker mind than Sersi. So I think that Sersi can react faster."Uhhhhh....?
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"It's under her listed powers. Try looking them up. She's even flown in space before. She's one of the top Earth Eternals. She's right up there with Ikaris in flight speed and he tries to race with Makkari, who's FTL. Now, prove to me Diana doesn't get immediately raped by transmutation."I havent seen any source that says Ikaris can travel FTL... I saw something that said he could travel at Machspeeds by not Lightspeed...
"It's under her listed powers. Try looking them up. She's even flown in space before. She's one of the top Earth Eternals. She's right up there with Ikaris in flight speed and he tries to race with Makkari, who's FTL. Now, prove to me Diana doesn't get immediately raped by transmutation."I tried that. I didn't find anything. On Comicvine, it says that she can fly at supersonic speeds. Not light speed.
"It's under her listed powers. Try looking them up. She's even flown in space before. She's one of the top Earth Eternals. She's right up there with Ikaris in flight speed and he tries to race with Makkari, who's FTL. Now, prove to me Diana doesn't get immediately raped by transmutation."Why would someone look it up when we know she can't fly anymore.Flying in space before doesn't matter.That was years ago.The Eternals acually aren't that powerful..if it wasn't for Transmutation and matter manipulation they wouldn't be what they are.
"Static Shock said:Again..you're an idiot"Vance Astro said:It's simple. Stronger mind = her brain can react faster."She can teleport..which by Marvel standards makes her LS.I don't think she can fly currently though and definitely not at light speed."Is it somewhere on Warlock's level? Because I know his teleportation is a means of instantaneous travel, and was labeled as light speed in the Handbook. Just because you can teleport doesn't mean it's instantaneous. For example: Nightcrawler.
mira said:"But Diana has weaker mind than Sersi. So I think that Sersi can react faster."Uhhhhh....?
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"It's simple. Stronger mind = her brain can react faster."What makes you think Sersi's mind is stronger than Wonder Woman's?
"Rei-Kai said:Truth Indeed...even Ikaris can only fly at Machspeeds..."It's under her listed powers. Try looking them up. She's even flown in space before. She's one of the top Earth Eternals. She's right up there with Ikaris in flight speed and he tries to race with Makkari, who's FTL. Now, prove to me Diana doesn't get immediately raped by transmutation."I tried that. I didn't find anything. On Comicvine, it says that she can fly at supersonic speeds. Not light speed."
"Static Shock said:She's not stronger than Wonder Woman..she's not even stronger than Spider-Man."mira said:I read her bio.""It's simple. Stronger mind = her brain can react faster."What makes you think Sersi's mind is stronger than Wonder Woman's?"
"mira said:Hahaha good joke. I really hope that you're joking. Cause if not then you should read Sersi's bio."Static Shock said:She's not stronger than Wonder Woman..she's not even stronger than Spider-Man.""mira said:I read her bio.""It's simple. Stronger mind = her brain can react faster."What makes you think Sersi's mind is stronger than Wonder Woman's?"
"Vance Astro said:Hahahaha funny thing is its true"mira said:Hahaha good joke.""Static Shock said:She's not stronger than Wonder Woman..she's not even stronger than Spider-Man.""mira said:I read her bio.""It's simple. Stronger mind = her brain can react faster."What makes you think Sersi's mind is stronger than Wonder Woman's?"
"Vance Astro said:That wasn't mean to be funny.Sersi with her own physical strength can only lift 2 tons."mira said:Hahaha good joke.""Static Shock said:She's not stronger than Wonder Woman..she's not even stronger than Spider-Man.""mira said:I read her bio.""It's simple. Stronger mind = her brain can react faster."What makes you think Sersi's mind is stronger than Wonder Woman's?"
"mira said:If you read her bio then you know that Sersi can increase her strength to unknown levels. So her strength can grow."Vance Astro said:That wasn't mean to be funny.Sersi with her own physical strength can only lift 2 tons.""mira said:Hahaha good joke.""Static Shock said:She's not stronger than Wonder Woman..she's not even stronger than Spider-Man.""mira said:I read her bio.""It's simple. Stronger mind = her brain can react faster."What makes you think Sersi's mind is stronger than Wonder Woman's?"
"Vance Astro said:Theories are nice but if you don't have a feat then you may as well stop right now"mira said:If you read her bio then you know that Sersi can increase to unknown levels. So her strength can grow.""Vance Astro said:That wasn't mean to be funny.Sersi with her own physical strength can only lift 2 tons.""mira said:Hahaha good joke.""Static Shock said:She's not stronger than Wonder Woman..she's not even stronger than Spider-Man.""mira said:I read her bio.""It's simple. Stronger mind = her brain can react faster."What makes you think Sersi's mind is stronger than Wonder Woman's?"
"Vance Astro said:Thats just theory though... and she hasnt shown anything to show she is anywhere near Wonder Woman in physical strength"mira said:If you read her bio then you know that Sersi can increase her strength to unknown levels. So her strength can grow.""Vance Astro said:That wasn't mean to be funny.Sersi with her own physical strength can only lift 2 tons.""mira said:Hahaha good joke.""Static Shock said:She's not stronger than Wonder Woman..she's not even stronger than Spider-Man.""mira said:I read her bio.""It's simple. Stronger mind = her brain can react faster."What makes you think Sersi's mind is stronger than Wonder Woman's?"
"Vance Astro said:So can Silver Surfer and he's still weaker than Wonder Woman."mira said:If you read her bio then you know that Sersi can increase her strength to unknown levels. So her strength can grow.""Vance Astro said:That wasn't mean to be funny.Sersi with her own physical strength can only lift 2 tons.""mira said:Hahaha good joke.""Static Shock said:She's not stronger than Wonder Woman..she's not even stronger than Spider-Man.""mira said:I read her bio.""It's simple. Stronger mind = her brain can react faster."What makes you think Sersi's mind is stronger than Wonder Woman's?"
I don't trust what it says on Comicvine cause, like Wiki, it's not an official site. Plus most people here are biased against Marvel anyway, which makes everything posted up about them suspect. The Marvel handbooks concerning their abilities places speed around lightspeed, not Supersonic. I used to have an old handbook too. I should get the more recent additions.
Vance Astro said:
Sersi transmuted a cosmically powered android Hulk. She has transmuted herself and other Avengers members during Galactic Storm, including Iron-Man's armor without ill effects. And actually she can fly. She can even teleport still. She got pissed at Tiamut and attacked him before Makkari stopped her, and before when Makkari first tried that he went comatose. Sersi actually resisted the immediate shutdown programmed into Eternals to keep them from attacking a Celestial. And lately, the Eternals are basically being 'reset' like the Asgardians in the new Thor series. Also, her latest act recently was completely restructuring her own body into an exact replication of Makkari's body, powers and all, as a means of reviving him so that Tiamut wouldn't reset the Earth to a few billion years prior.Ikaris didn't try to race Makkari recently.Makkari is beyond the speed of most of Marvel..and Sersi and Ikaris are nowhere near.Transmuting the Hulk who is slow as hell doesn't mean you can transmute someone faster than you brain can work.Sersi doesn't have the speed or the reaction time.Oh and BTW..most ot the Eternals lost some of their powers.
"mira said:But it's in her bio."Vance Astro said:Thats just theory though... and she hasnt shown anything to show she is anywhere near Wonder Woman in physical strength""mira said:If you read her bio then you know that Sersi can increase her strength to unknown levels. So her strength can grow.""Vance Astro said:That wasn't mean to be funny.Sersi with her own physical strength can only lift 2 tons.""mira said:Hahaha good joke.""Static Shock said:She's not stronger than Wonder Woman..she's not even stronger than Spider-Man.""mira said:I read her bio.""It's simple. Stronger mind = her brain can react faster."What makes you think Sersi's mind is stronger than Wonder Woman's?"
"I don't trust what it says on Comicvine cause, like Wiki, it's not an official site. Plus most people here are biased against Marvel anyway, which makes everything posted up about them suspect. The Marvel handbooks concerning their abilities places speed around lightspeed, not Supersonic. I used to have an old handbook too. I should get the more recent additions.Oh its in a hand book oooo I suppose you don't have a scanner either, thats convenient
Vance Astro said:Sersi transmuted a cosmically powered android Hulk. She has transmuted herself and other Avengers members during Galactic Storm, including Iron-Man's armor without ill effects. And actually she can fly. She can even teleport still. She got pissed at Tiamut and attacked him before Makkari stopped her, and before when Makkari first tried that he went comatose. Sersi actually resisted the immediate shutdown programmed into Eternals to keep them from attacking a Celestial. And lately, the Eternals are basically being 'reset' like the Asgardians in the new Thor series. Also, her latest act recently was completely restructuring her own body into an exact replication of Makkari's body, powers and all, as a means of reviving him so that Tiamut wouldn't reset the Earth to a few billion years prior."Ikaris didn't try to race Makkari recently.Makkari is beyond the speed of most of Marvel..and Sersi and Ikaris are nowhere near.Transmuting the Hulk who is slow as hell doesn't mean you can transmute someone faster than you brain can work.Sersi doesn't have the speed or the reaction time.Oh and BTW..most ot the Eternals lost some of their powers.
....Why don't you give me the exact name of the book and the year it was published...
People arent biased against Marvel here..in fact their are probably more Marvel fans here then DC
I could be wrong but the majority of people here have open minds regardless of what they like
You wanna see a biased community check out KMC or CBUB ...both ride Marvel c*ck like there is no tommorow
Vance Astro said:1.Who cares what Hulk Sersi transmuted..he was still slow.Sersi transmuted a cosmically powered android Hulk. She has transmuted herself and other Avengers members during Galactic Storm, including Iron-Man's armor without ill effects. And actually she can fly. She can even teleport still. She got pissed at Tiamut and attacked him before Makkari stopped her, and before when Makkari first tried that he went comatose. Sersi actually resisted the immediate shutdown programmed into Eternals to keep them from attacking a Celestial. And lately, the Eternals are basically being 'reset' like the Asgardians in the new Thor series. Also, her latest act recently was completely restructuring her own body into an exact replication of Makkari's body, powers and all, as a means of reviving him so that Tiamut wouldn't reset the Earth to a few billion years prior."Ikaris didn't try to race Makkari recently.Makkari is beyond the speed of most of Marvel..and Sersi and Ikaris are nowhere near.Transmuting the Hulk who is slow as hell doesn't mean you can transmute someone faster than you brain can work.Sersi doesn't have the speed or the reaction time.Oh and BTW..most ot the Eternals lost some of their powers.
"Lol. He just doesn't get it. X-D"
I think he does get it, he's just being difficult. That's why I'm not like 'long response complete with cross reference 10 posts ago' mode, this thread really doesn't deserve the attention.
Rei-Kai, the Eternals were depowered. The only one to show such a high degree of speed is Makkari, he can reach speeds enough to where it seems like everyone is frozen, I think that could be near light speed.. point being, Sersi hasn't shown that kind of speed.
People arent biased against Marvel here..in fact their are probably more Marvel fans here then DCUh yeah, they are. About 4/5ths of the people here are DC fans. And that's a big assumption from you about knowing the number of fans here given your extensive posting record.
CuzISaidso said:
You wanna see a biased community check out KMC or CBUB ...both ride Marvel c*ck like there is no tommorow"CBUB is almost entirely a joke. CBR is different. They still have people who think Superman can beat Loki.
"King Saturn said:It doesnt change the fact its still in theory... simply because she hasnt shown anything to show that her strength level is insanely great... so that so Called Unknown Level of strength she has could be somewhere around 40 to 50 tons... approx."mira said:But it's in her bio.""If you read her bio then you know that Sersi can increase her strength to unknown levels. So her strength can grow."Thats just theory though... and she hasnt shown anything to show she is anywhere near Wonder Woman in physical strength"
CBUB is almost entirely a joke. CBR is different. They still have people who think Superman can beat Loki.
I beg to differ on that one.
CBR > Comicvine in terms of moderation, rule enforcement, and manners.
pfft...I have been on CBR
One guy said Magneto can destroy galaxies and damage the universe
One guy said Gladiator was on par with Pre crisis superman
One guy said Wolverine could beat Cyborg Superman
Both CBUB and CBR are jokes
It doesnt change the fact its still in theory... simply because she hasnt shown anything to show that her strength level is insanely great... so that so Called Unknown Level of strength she has could be somewhere around 40 to 50 tons... approx."She was strong enough to deck Hercules, who's class 100+. Her base strength is only around class 15 or so. Her control of Cosmic Energy enables her to amplify her strength over class 100. As shown when she flattened the Olympian.
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