zee crusher says:
"Thor why do you people thinking catching bullets is really that fast?? "
Because not that many heroes are shown to be able to cross a room and catch a bullet fired at the prisoner who is only 10 feet from the gun barrel.
This would mean that the Sentry would have had to move at a velocity around the speed of sound. More importantly this means that Sentry displayed the ability to think cognitively at these speeds as well – so tracking the path of the bullet and aligning his hand to catch the bullet. So definitely a bit more like a Superman clone.
I don’t remember Thor performing this actual stunt. I know he has demonstrated other feats that can be considered to show super speed but it is a power he does not display in most encounters (but then again neither does the Sentry).
Putting aside most of the older Thor comics when writers used to introduce actions/powers at the drop of a hat, has Thor used significant super speed after say Thor #300 ?
"Thor beat galactus who said he would have died if he stayed any longer sentry only had a standstill I think losing is a better victory then only a standstill."
Until Senty’s battle with Galactus is shown we don’t know the energy level of Galactus at the time of the fight. In Galactus’s fight against Thor, Galactus had come to feed on a planet that would indicate that Galactus was far from his peak in power as it was dinnertime and he would not consume a planet if there were not an urgent need to replenish his energies.
The comic that Thor performs this feat in is quite old and this demonstration of might does not tally with current thought – Thor turning back Galactus!!
Thor does use Asgardian energy (whatever that is – must be magic related for Galactus not to be able to absorb/manipulate it) against him but when ever has he used this particular power again ?
"Thor can easily take sentry hits sentry is very much weaker then Thor."
I don’t recall Sentry ever punching Thor so this statement cannot be proved. As for proving weaker than Thor…..
We have seen Thor’s huge strength feats – lifting a fair portion of the Midgard Serpent etc, but again he fails to do this consistently. No doubt if Sentry had been launched in the 1960’s he too would have had feats of strength of a similar level. In most modern comics, writers have annual development meetings and editors discuss guest appearances by characters to at least provide some continuity to characters abilities. This happened to a much lesser degree in the 60’s and 70’s so it does not surprise me that Thor has some huge feats from his early appearances, as his abilities were inconsistent.
In most of his more modern appearances Thor’s abilities have been more consistent and based on these I don’t see that Sentry should be considered to be hugely weaker than Thor. I do think that Thor is the stronger but not be a lot.
In the Avengers, Wonderman was always presented, even from his earliest appearances, as being almost as strong as Thor. He makes reference to this several times and so do many others.
In the recent Mighty Avengers, Wonderman makes the same comment about the Sentry.
And even though the newest Incarnation of Thor has at least some access to the Odin power, it is not clear that his physical abilities have significantly increased.
"As shown how Thor beat Abosrbing man pretty easily last time they met. Sentry was only holding back his strength so what Thor changed the guys molecules in the most cruel way."
Can someone post this where he changes Absorbing Man’s molecules ?
Was this an old appearance ?
"As well has hitting and dodging people like sufer and gladiator. Sentry speed of not a problem. As for agility yeah he wins big whoop thats where his fighting skills come in. In one comic Thor had no strength and fougth captain america guess who won Thor he is about 20times better then captain america in that category from what i heard."
Where did you hear that Thor is 20x better than Capt America at hand to hand fighting?
I don’t recall this battle so please if you have some scans, post them or describe out the battle.
Thor had no strength? Were all of his superhuman physical abilities reduced as well (reaction speed, durability, endurance) ?
No one is arguing that Thor has superior hand to hand ability to Sentry, or better combat tactics, but to beat Cap America at hand to hand is something else as Thor is mostly a brawler/wrestler, while Cap has Judo/Wrestling mastery and a smattering of other martial arts rolled up in to 1 unique fighting style.
"Yeah he lost to foes like hulk and some others but big whoop hes beaten stronger. Thor has taken hits from mangog recently with out budging Sentry face had a whole new make over from just a being like hulks hits. So Thor takes this old or new thor it makes no difference."
Of course this supposes that WWH was weaker than Magog. At the point of the fight with the Sentry, WWH was far allegedly stronger than he has almost ever been as he was angrier (but in a controlled manner) than he has ever been. As the old saying says - the madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets.
The Hulk was demonstrating levels of strength and power (regenerative and endurance) that were clearly above many previous appearances. For Sentry to stand up to these blows and almost welcome them seems to indicate to me that he is one tough cookie.
So the blows hurt him and made him bleed. Getting punched in the face by someone who can casually snap Colossus’s wrists and who is then not holding back, and withstand the blows in an all out fight suggests a very high level of durability.
zee crusher says:
"First of all Those is stronger then Sentry don't care what anybody says. If sentry is so strong he should have been able to lift the hellcarrier thing. Cause classic Thor yes Classic could pull the midgard serpent from earth the whole thing to not just a little bit. Also if Sentry was so strong he should have been able to take hulk down in a faster time then Thor did cause in some cases Thor broke hulks neck he used thunder to knock hulk out killed hulk and just beat the mess out of him if sentry was so strong he should have been able to compare rather then turn back to a human. Warlock here are the pics."
Thor breaking the Hulks neck is an example of hand to hand ability (application of leverage) and strength, not simply just strength.
Also this was not the same Hulk. This was old classic hulk. WWH is a far better fighter, fighting dirty and clever – like a gladiator, so it would have been harder to win through hand to hand combat. WWH I think would have been at a far higher level of strength than the older hulk depicted, as he was angrier.
Finally a key fact to remember is that when Thor hits the hulk with his hammer he is doing a lot more damage than simply hitting the hulk with his fist. Why ?
He is hitting him with Mjolnir – the equivalent of an indestructible 50 lb lump hammer. Of course he will do more damage. Even a normal man hitting with a lump hammer does more damage than with his fist alone.
Admittedly Thor hitting the Sentry with Mjolnir will do a lot more damage than a simple punch from Thor but then again I think that WWH was at the time of the fight stronger than Thor so in my mind this balances out.
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