sentry vs superman vs gladiator

This can go either way. Under normal circumstances Superman wins but if Sentry went crazy too the full extent he wins

"Gladiator potentially has no limit, but he does have a weakness, just like Supes. His confidence. Supes doesn't quit, and out of all the uber-powerful foes he's fought, he always comes out on top and has never died (Doomsday was the closest opponent, but Supes didn't technically die there). Supes' only weaknesses are kryptonite and magic, and Gladiator has neither. But I'd wager Gladiator's confidence will wane after fighting Superman for an hour and seeing that he's not getting any easier to defeat. And once his confidence is shaky, then he's down for the count"

"This can go either way. Under normal circumstances Superman wins but if Sentry went crazy too the full extent he wins"

And as about Cannonball,Gladiator wasn't fighting him seriously.He was playing all the time,until he loose his temper. Then Cannonball's newfounded ability saved him from a punch that COULD sent ANYONE else in the middle of the sun!! And at a moment of morale weakness he punched him down (but not defeted him!). In 5" he was standing again!
And if Cannonball was worthy enought to really defete Gladiator, he would sent him with the rest X-men to save the Empire,but...

Cannonball was lucky,not worthy!
so:
Cladiator>>>>>>>Cannonball

I think Supes would come out the winner in this one It definitely would be an extremely bloody fight, but Supes comes out victorius.

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the flag is red white and blue

elvis is the king

and

Superman doesnt loose.

the great american truths

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lol

Sentry all the way

Sentry never showed up at the battle.  He's at home crying because he broke a nail.

hardee har har......Good one.....but really he is more powerful than either of the other two

He's really not.

World's worst superhero.  Power Pack has accomplished more good than he has.

Beating yourself isn't a feat either.

Ill agree to disagree

Superman.

both of can beat his overrated cheesy boring ass.   

well i think gladiator goes down first.(as much as it saddens me to say...*sniffle* such a cool haircut...) i mean who are u going to go agenst first the purple guy with a frohawk or the normal human looking guy? lets face it his looks say beat me up (mostly cus he looks better then the rest of them. ITS A FROHAWK!!) then it would come down to sentruy and superman where superman wins.

they stated that sentry is using the full extent of his powers,wun he win?

if its the full extent of his powers he would distroy planets in differnt galexies and he wouldent do that now would he?

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Sentry never showed up at the battle.  He's at home crying because he broke a nail.

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Superman gets beaten down, then it comes down to Gladiator and Sentry. Fight goes on, Gladiator wrecks Sentry's favorite candy store. Sentry gets pissed and beats Glads into a bloody purple pulp. Then Sentry's wife comes and bakes everyone cookies.

"well i think gladiator goes down first.(as much as it saddens me to say...*sniffle* such a cool haircut...) i mean who are u going to go agenst first the purple guy with a frohawk or the normal human looking guy? lets face it his looks say beat me up (mostly cus he looks better then the rest of them. ITS A FROHAWK!!) then it would come down to sentruy and superman where superman wins."

"kaino12 said:

"well i think gladiator goes down first.(as much as it saddens me to say...*sniffle* such a cool haircut...) i mean who are u going to go agenst first the purple guy with a frohawk or the normal human looking guy? lets face it his looks say beat me up (mostly cus he looks better then the rest of them. ITS A FROHAWK!!) then it would come down to sentruy and superman where superman wins."

This post is just stupid.

is there any reason why its wrong? (with the excpetion of superman winning cus sentenal might win depending on wether u take the hyperbolys of his power seriousely.) would u go agenst the obvouse alien or the not obvouse alien? on the other hand sentury and gladiator or from marvel they might have heard of eachother and there for would be weary of the person whos powers they arnt aware of. "

kaino12 said:

"kaino12 said:

"well i think gladiator goes down first.(as much as it saddens me to say...*sniffle* such a cool haircut...) i mean who are u going to go agenst first the purple guy with a frohawk or the normal human looking guy? lets face it his looks say beat me up (mostly cus he looks better then the rest of them. ITS A FROHAWK!!) then it would come down to sentruy and superman where superman wins."

This post is just stupid.

is there any reason why its wrong? (with the excpetion of superman winning cus sentenal might win depending on wether u take the hyperbolys of his power seriousely.) would u go agenst the obvouse alien or the not obvouse alien? on the other hand sentury and gladiator or from marvel they might have heard of eachother and there for would be weary of the person whos powers they arnt aware of. "

kaino12 said:

"kaino12 said:

"well i think gladiator goes down first.(as much as it saddens me to say...*sniffle* such a cool haircut...) i mean who are u going to go agenst first the purple guy with a frohawk or the normal human looking guy? lets face it his looks say beat me up (mostly cus he looks better then the rest of them. ITS A FROHAWK!!) then it would come down to sentruy and superman where superman wins."

This post is just stupid.

is there any reason why its wrong? (with the excpetion of superman winning cus sentenal might win depending on wether u take the hyperbolys of his power seriousely.) would u go agenst the obvouse alien or the not obvouse alien? on the other hand sentury and gladiator or from marvel they might have heard of eachother and there for would be weary of the person whos powers they arnt aware of. "

Gladiator flies across galaxies in seconds. Superman can't. Gladiator smashes planets with his fists and crushed a star between his arms. Superman can't. Gladiator bounced a magic blast from Mjolnir off his chest and only said it actually hurt. Superman can't (for obvious reasons). Sentry stalemated World War Hulk whose strength dwarfs Superman's. Gladiator has tossed aside Juggernaut, whose strength is on par with the Hulk.

Basically what's being said here, is that both Sentry and Gladiator are more than strong enough to take out Supes. I don't get where people blindly claim Superman to be stronger than everyone.

"Gladiator flies across galaxies in seconds. Superman can't. Gladiator smashes planets with his fists and crushed a star between his arms. Superman can't. Gladiator bounced a magic blast from Mjolnir off his chest and only said it actually hurt. Superman can't (for obvious reasons). Sentry stalemated World War Hulk whose strength dwarfs Superman's. Gladiator has tossed aside Juggernaut, whose strength is on par with the Hulk.

Basically what's being said here, is that both Sentry and Gladiator are more than strong enough to take out Supes. I don't get where people blindly claim Superman to be stronger than everyone."

Gladiator was stated to be barely stronger than Deathbird.

"supertrooper117 said:

"Sentry has no limit bec. he has not been stopped by anyone with a limit and we dont know his limit

gladiator has boasted being able too and do you have any reasons y he cant do it?"

You mean Sentry's limit is unknown, mean no one knows his limit.. There's no proof that Sentry's power is unlimited. Saying he can't control his power doesn't mean anything. And, just because no one has stopped him doesn't mean anything either.


Gladiator can boast all he wants. When you show me a feat of him moving a planet, then we'll talk...
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"Static Shock said:

"supertrooper117 said:

"Sentry has no limit bec. he has not been stopped by anyone with a limit and we dont know his limit

gladiator has boasted being able too and do you have any reasons y he cant do it?"

You mean Sentry's limit is unknown, mean no one knows his limit.. There's no proof that Sentry's power is unlimited. Saying he can't control his power doesn't mean anything. And, just because no one has stopped him doesn't mean anything either.


Gladiator can boast all he wants. When you show me a feat of him moving a planet, then we'll talk...
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Gladiator has shattered a planet with one punch. That is more than just moving a planet."

Superman is faster Gladiator..stop reaching.Gladiator smashed a small planet...Superman helped pull Earth and the Moon.Why even name the Mjolnir feat when you know Superman is weak to magic? Stalemating Hulk means nothing..Superman probably would have beat him.Gladiator only tossed Juggernaut in the animated series...not im comics.Hulk's lifting feats are far beyond Juggernaut's.

Sentry & Gladiator are not on Superman's strength level.They aren't going to attack him together so it's not a combination of their strengths.I don't get where you claim Superman to be weaker than people whose base limit is 100 tons when Superman's is 100,000.

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"Vance Astro said:

Superman is faster Gladiator..stop reaching.Gladiator smashed a small planet...Superman helped pull Earth and the Moon.Why even name the Mjolnir feat when you know Superman is weak to magic? Stalemating Hulk means nothing..Superman probably would have beat him.Gladiator only tossed Juggernaut in the animated series...not im comics.Hulk's lifting feats are far beyond Juggernaut's.

Sentry & Gladiator are not on Superman's strength level.They aren't going to attack him together so it's not a combination of their strengths.I don't get where you claim Superman to be weaker than people whose base limit is 100 tons when Superman's is 100,000.

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This is where you guys keep screwing yourselves over. You even put it out yourself that Superman required aid in order to move a celestial body (planet/moon), which means he couldn't have done so under his own power. You say Supes is faster than Gladiator and yet there's nothing to prove it. I've seen the scans and there's nothing putting him passed 10x's lightspeed that he claimed for himself. As for the Hulk, the only reason why Superman could beat him is via speed/flight. That's it. Hulk's strength vastly exceeds Superman's, and WWH was doing ridiculous stunts, like solo'ing just about every hero on the planet, including the likes of Black Bolt, Doc Strange, Hercules, among others. Xavier couldn't even mind-screw him. Hulk was tossing people and limbs across states just so they'd leave him alone.

Though Hulk's lifting strength seems greater than Juggernaut's, the two have fought before and the Hulk has never been able to beat him outright, and all he could do when Juggernaut regained his full strength was push him forward to keep up Juggs' momentum in order to send him away long enough for Hulk to reach Xavier. In terms of strength, the two are virtually equal. And now, you say Sentry, Gladiator, and pretty much anyone who's not from DC isn't on Superman's strength level, even though these people are pulling off feats of strength Superman hasn't been able to perform since Pre-Crisis. And you say they are only 100 ton strength when it's clearly not true. Class 100 doesn't mean they are restricted to 100 tons. Class 100 is just the max level Marvel designates to a character before they stop calculating their strength. Each class 100 brick in Marvel easily exceeds that limitation. Marvel just stops counting after that mark. It doesn't matter if Superman could lift 100,000 tons, he'd still only be ranked as a class 100 brick. Because that's the mark. And if you'd note, most people just say class 100+ because it's blatantly obvious they exceed class 100.

Now, if you really wanted to show Superman's strength, then by all means, show and/or tell Current Superman's highest feat of strength that he performs under his own power, without help from anyone else."

Then do tell, at what point was I making stuff up? Hulk beating people? That all occurred in World War Hulk. Try reading it. Xavier not mindscrewing Hulk? Also happened in WWH, it was in the WWH: X-Men book. Sentry stalemating Hulk? Happens right at the end of WWH before they do the whole clean-up series of it where the Chrysler Building ends up being animated and it smacks down everyone. If you're gonna claim that I'm making stuff up, then be my guest and prove me wrong.

"Then do tell, at what point was I making stuff up? Hulk beating people? That all occurred in World War Hulk. Try reading it. Xavier not mindscrewing Hulk? Also happened in WWH, it was in the WWH: X-Men book. Sentry stalemating Hulk? Happens right at the end of WWH before they do the whole clean-up series of it where the Chrysler Building ends up being animated and it smacks down everyone. If you're gonna claim that I'm making stuff up, then be my guest and prove me wrong."

I said prove it, not spout more nonsense. Class 100 is not base limit. That's the capping off point. Seriously, try posting evidence or instances to prove your statements. Or go one better. Provide the completed book name or issue or whatnot that proves your statements. I'm hitting Borders and Newbury Comics later before work anyway and I'll hunt it down and see for myself. How's that work? I need to order the next King of Hell, Kurohime and Battle Angel Alita books anyway.

"I said prove it, not spout more nonsense. Class 100 is not base limit. That's the capping off point. Seriously, try posting evidence or instances to prove your statements. Or go one better. Provide the completed book name or issue or whatnot that proves your statements. I'm hitting Borders and Newbury Comics later before work anyway and I'll hunt it down and see for myself. How's that work? I need to order the next King of Hell, Kurohime and Battle Angel Alita books anyway."

u actualy buy them what a waste of money u can read them off the internet.well i guss it would be pritty cool. i have to admit i have a few.

"u actualy buy them what a waste of money u can read them off the internet.well i guss it would be pritty cool. i have to admit i have a few."

In other words, you can't prove what you're saying and are trying to say it's common knowledge when really it's not or it's simply what the Superman's believe. If you can't prove it then don't say someone else is making false statements. I've given you the opportunity to give feats and provide evidence and all you've done is avoid doing so.

"In other words, you can't prove what you're saying and are trying to say it's common knowledge when really it's not or it's simply what the Superman's believe. If you can't prove it then don't say someone else is making false statements. I've given you the opportunity to give feats and provide evidence and all you've done is avoid doing so."

Again, you claim I'm making things up and do nothing to prove it. You say I know nothing about Supes without testing that theory. And really, do you know anything about Sentry or Gladiator, or the Hulk? Or hell, ANYTHING in Marvel? What just makes me tired of Superman is peoples blind devotion and worship towards him. I swear there's a secret cult/religion about him.

I know Superman cracked one of Saturn's moons in half while flying through space while pissed off about Lex Luthor. I know he needed a techno-harness to allow him to move the Earth (which he struggled with). I know he had an arm-wrestling match with Cap Marvel to see who was stronger and only barely won, and that was with Mary Marvel and the other brother standing there, both transformed which meant Cap couldn't use all of his strength because Shazam's power was being divided up. Hell I know that Superman and Bizzaro had their minds switched and Supes (in Bizzaro's body) knocked Bizzaro (In Superman's body) through the Earth to pop out the other end and state that Bizzaro may actually be stronger than he is if his brain would actually function correctly, or something along those lines.

"kaino12 said:

"u actualy buy them what a waste of money u can read them off the internet.well i guss it would be pritty cool. i have to admit i have a few."

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1. We don't know the size of the planet being destroyed, or for that fact it's age and compiosition (molten core, tectonically unstable, etc). This is relatively important as a smaller planet or a planet of a less durable nature will be easier to destroy.

2. He is shown to repeatidly hit the planet surfce, cracking the crust, resulting in the planet exploding.

 And really, do you know anything about Sentry 

Rei-Kai said:

 And really, do you know anything about Sentry

1. The Black Hole was miniature in size and was contained within a forcefield by the Green Lanterns. That alone negates a strength feat by Superman as he did not do it under his own power.
2. Speed feat, that was when Supes split Saturn's moon in half, does accurately place him around 18x lightspeed. Given the distance between Earth and Saturn is roughly 887 million miles. However, others like Gladiator, Surfer, etc, have traveled greater distances in shorter periods of time. Making Superman's flightspeed fast, but not faster than others. Also, flightspeed is not the same as Combat Speed or reaction time. Though I did hear that Superman had actually learned how to fight at lightspeed, which means he can react to lightspeed attacks and the like.
3. The spaceship throwing, can't get a clear indication because the img is too small for the text to be read. However that ship does not appear to be Moonsized. There is a clearer indication of such a size for a ship, actually. If you've seen Gurren Lagann, Lordgenome's flagship, the Cathedral Terra, is quite literally the size of the Moon.

As for the bit with Gladiator, it was shown that it was a dead planet, so safer to assume its core activity and tectonic activity has stopped. The planet was little more than a giant floating solid rock. Of what comprised it is anyones guess. Gladiator did just smash it to bits because he was pissed at himself for having to follow Deathbird's orders and betray Lilandra.

2. Speed feat, that was when Supes split Saturn's moon in half, does accurately place him around 18x lightspeed. Given the distance between Earth and Saturn is roughly 887 million miles.

Apparently you misread what I said or just didn't get it. I did say Supes can fly at around 18x lightspeed, however, Like I said, it doesn't translate into Combat Speeds or reaction times. It's not something he's shown to use in battle, though, again, he had apparently learned from someone how to punch and react at lightspeed in battle. However I have yet to see him move faster than that in a combat situation.

Vance is the goto guy on Sentry. I do not know if his knowledge of Superman is comparable but everything he has stated about Superman has happened and I understood it as common knowledge. Gladiator's abilities are based on his confidence. If he sees beings of comparable abilities, he may start to doubt himself and he becomes much weaker. That being said, I do not believe that Gladiator can take Superman at his most confident anyway.

Ok..here we go.

SUPERMAN LIFTS A PYRAMID AND FLIES TO MARS WITH IT

Holy sh!t Vance! Wanted to make sure there is no more room for debating the matter?

"1. The Black Hole was miniature in size and was contained within a forcefield by the Green Lanterns. That alone negates a strength feat by Superman as he did not do it under his own power.
2. Speed feat, that was when Supes split Saturn's moon in half, does accurately place him around 18x lightspeed. Given the distance between Earth and Saturn is roughly 887 million miles. However, others like Gladiator, Surfer, etc, have traveled greater distances in shorter periods of time. Making Superman's flightspeed fast, but not faster than others. Also, flightspeed is not the same as Combat Speed or reaction time. Though I did hear that Superman had actually learned how to fight at lightspeed, which means he can react to lightspeed attacks and the like.
3. The spaceship throwing, can't get a clear indication because the img is too small for the text to be read. However that ship does not appear to be Moonsized. There is a clearer indication of such a size for a ship, actually. If you've seen Gurren Lagann, Lordgenome's flagship, the Cathedral Terra, is quite literally the size of the Moon.

As for the bit with Gladiator, it was shown that it was a dead planet, so safer to assume its core activity and tectonic activity has stopped. The planet was little more than a giant floating solid rock. Of what comprised it is anyones guess. Gladiator did just smash it to bits because he was pissed at himself for having to follow Deathbird's orders and betray Lilandra."