#1 Posted by ZORN (1605 posts) - - Show Bio

SUPERMAN DUE TO THE FACT THAT SENTRY LIKES THROWING HIS ENIMIES INTO THE SUN . SUPERMAN PLUS THE YELLOW SUN EQUALS god IF MY DATA IS CORRECT.

#2 Posted by zee crusher (8997 posts) - - Show Bio

Havent seen this post in a few weeks but it goes to sentry who cares if throws people in the sun the current sentry stated to be able surfers or pheonix lvl in power.

#3 Posted by Sync (960 posts) - - Show Bio

does sentry have the ablilty to control the sun enegies, like he does with hulk, by emitting a field of calming enegry?

and is not sentry crazy right now or something like that in the current series of war hulk??

which superman is he fighting?

i say superman, their can only be one "S" on the chest. lets just hope it not for sucker.

#4 Posted by Arachnid of Death (7 posts) - - Show Bio

Supermna wins Hands down!!!!!

#5 Posted by Arachnid of Death (7 posts) - - Show Bio

Supermna wins Hands down!!!!!

#6 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio

hey another one. any one know how the last few have gone?

#7 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

Sentry will throw him ino the sun! And pay for it!

#8 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

This was done like a million times. Everybody says the same thing, Sentry hasn't shown his "Power of 1000 exploding suns" so basing it on what both have done, it goes to supes. basing it on what should be, Sentry.

#9 Posted by Logic Mark III (2121 posts) - - Show Bio

Sentry, doesn't matter that he hasn't shown his power. He can manipulate light energy an thus take away Superman's power source. Nothing is able to kill the Sentry so end of the day he could just outlast Supes. Also if Superman was thrown INTO the sun he would die, in All Star Superman he went NEXT to the sun and is dying, so actually being in the center...bye-bye big S. The Sentry only seems to have one weakness and thats himself...Superman v.s the Void anyone? No didn't think so.

#10 Posted by vulcain (14 posts) - - Show Bio

Sentry

#11 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

The Sentry is weak! Throwung people into the sun is weak. Superman wins.

#12 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

Sentry.

#13 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Logic Mark III says:

"Sentry, doesn't matter that he hasn't shown his power. He can manipulate light energy an thus take away Superman's power source. Nothing is able to kill the Sentry so end of the day he could just outlast Supes. Also if Superman was thrown INTO the sun he would die, in All Star Superman he went NEXT to the sun and is dying, so actually being in the center...bye-bye big S. The Sentry only seems to have one weakness and thats himself...Superman v.s the Void anyone? No didn't think so."

um, excuse me... what?

throwing Superman into the sun will kill him?

thats bull... simply put.

check out DC 1,000,000 Superman lived in the heart of the sun for thousands of years there...

or how about the end of the Final Night storyline, where Superman couldn't get his powers back so Metron teleported him into the heart of the sun to give his powers a Jump Start?

or how about the beginning of Superman: Exile where Superman faced Rock in a battle just inside of the sun's corona and it gave him such a powerboost he couldn't control his strength or heat vision anymore and ended up sending a beam of heat vision out, so powerfull it flashed out of this galaxy?

hell, why don't we just include the beginning of Final Night in this where Superman, along with the rest of the JLA created a second Sun for the Suneater to feast on so it would leave the sun alone.

#14 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

sorry, i had more but my explorer crashed while it was sending the message and i can't be bothered typing them all out again lol

M

#15 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

Thats all well and good but Superman draws power from Earth's sun correct, Sentry has the power of a MILLION exploding suns. Thats power the human mind cant even fathom.

#16 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Thats all well and good but Superman draws power from Earth's sun correct, Sentry has the power of a MILLION exploding suns. Thats power the human mind cant even fathom."

i don't know anything about Sentry... i was just correcting the post that "Throwing Superman into the sun will kill him."

M

#17 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Thats all well and good but Superman draws power from Earth's sun correct, Sentry has the power of a MILLION exploding suns. Thats power the human mind cant even fathom."

#18 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"Gambler says:
"Thats all well and good but Superman draws power from Earth's sun correct, Sentry has the power of a MILLION exploding suns. Thats power the human mind cant even fathom."

" />http://usera.imagecave.com/cdm429/DamnFriday.jpg"

LMFAO. I'm stealing that.

#19 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio
"The Sentry is one of the most powerful super-heroes in the Marvel Universe. We don't know the full extent of his powers but he has said that he can hear a butterfly's heartbeat in Africa from New York. He beat Galactus to a standstill (Very debated subject). He has shown Super-Strength, Speed, Flight and the has a liking to throwing his enemies into the sun."

hmmm... i don't see anything there about powers of a Million exploding Sun's...

in fact, from what i can see he looks to be the same as Superman...

do we have any pictures of him using Powers that could take down Superman then?

Heat Vision or something at a level that could defeat Superman?

Telepathic attacks maybe? manipulation of Solar activity? teleportation? chronal attacks?

M

#20 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"Gambler says:
"Thats all well and good but Superman draws power from Earth's sun correct, Sentry has the power of a MILLION exploding suns. Thats power the human mind cant even fathom."
LMFAO." />http://usera.imagecave.com/cdm429/DamnFriday.jpg"
LMFAO. I'm stealing that."

Lol. Go ahead. I put these things for people to laugh at and steal for when they have something to say. lol.

#21 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"
"The Sentry is one of the most powerful super-heroes in the Marvel Universe. We don't know the full extent of his powers but he has said that he can hear a butterfly's heartbeat in Africa from New York. He beat Galactus to a standstill (Very debated subject). He has shown Super-Strength, Speed, Flight and the has a liking to throwing his enemies into the sun."

hmmm... i don't see anything there about powers of a Million exploding Sun's...

in fact, from what i can see he looks to be the same as Superman...

do we have any pictures of him using Powers that could take down Superman then?

Heat Vision or something at a level that could defeat Superman?

Telepathic attacks maybe? manipulation of Solar activity? teleportation? chronal attacks?

M"

Hold on I'll go get the book were it says that.

#22 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

cheers :D

M

#23 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Methos says:
"
"The Sentry is one of the most powerful super-heroes in the Marvel Universe. We don't know the full extent of his powers but he has said that he can hear a butterfly's heartbeat in Africa from New York. He beat Galactus to a standstill (Very debated subject). He has shown Super-Strength, Speed, Flight and the has a liking to throwing his enemies into the sun."
hmmm... i don't see anything there about powers of a Million exploding Sun's... in fact, from what i can see he looks to be the same as Superman... do we have any pictures of him using Powers that could take down Superman then? Heat Vision or something at a level that could defeat Superman? Telepathic attacks maybe? manipulation of Solar activity? teleportation? chronal attacks? M"
Hold on I'll go get the book were it says that."

Oh poo. Something wicked... this way comes...

#24 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio

Sentry has been shown to massively weaker than Superman in recent issues of Might Avengers (struggling to slow a hellicarriers descent - ergo he can lift around 60,000 tonnes). Superman can lift more than 2,500,000 tonnes (from Whos Who in the DC universe). He has been boosted in power since then so an estimate is hard to give.

Also recently Sentry was bloodied by Ultron (having taken over Iron Man's form). So he got a busted lip from someone of near the same strength level. Superman on the otherhand has taken blows from much stronger opponents than Sentry with no damage. It took a 10 megatonne nuke to KO Superman.

Superspeed - Superman has been shown on numerous occasions to move and react dozens of times in a second like Flash can (but just not as fast).

When have we seen Sentry do this. Sure he can fly fast but that's different. Sentry has not been shown to catch dozens of bullets or to throw dozens of punches in fractions of a second.

Superman has very potent heat vision capable of slagging alien starships. Sentry also possesses huge light/heat emissions powers, enough to cause the Absorbing Man to explode (he can absorb the power of Thor).

Overall Superman is by far the physically more powerful. However if Sentry has the power of a several suns, might not some of them be red suns ??

He may be able to hurt Superman through the use of red sun radiation, but this depends upon him knowing about this weakness. Also he would really need to bathe Superman in this enery for some time to get the required effect.

It would be an interesting battle but If Sentry does not discover/know of this weakness then Superman should overpower him as Sentry's energy attacks could act to make Superman stronger.

#25 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

Okay, here it is. Wizard #163 May 2005.

"He's the most powerful superhero on Earth," explains Matt Murdock in New Avengers #1.

There's no clear definition of his abilities, but Bendis says to keep in mind, "Anyone with the power of a million exploding suns is going to need someone to keep him in check."

#26 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

The_Creator says:

"Sentry has been shown to massively weaker than Superman in recent issues of Might Avengers (struggling to slow a hellicarriers descent - ergo he can lift around 60,000 tonnes). Superman can lift more than 2,500,000 tonnes (from Whos Who in the DC universe). He has been boosted in power since then so an estimate is hard to give.Also recently Sentry was bloodied by Ultron (having taken over Iron Man's form). So he got a busted lip from someone of near the same strength level. Superman on the otherhand has taken blows from much stronger opponents than Sentry with no damage. It took a 10 megatonne nuke to KO Superman.Superspeed - Superman has been shown on numerous occasions to move and react dozens of times in a second like Flash can (but just not as fast).When have we seen Sentry do this. Sure he can fly fast but that's different. Sentry has not been shown to catch dozens of bullets or to throw dozens of punches in fractions of a second.Superman has very potent heat vision capable of slagging alien starships. Sentry also possesses huge light/heat emissions powers, enough to cause the Absorbing Man to explode (he can absorb the power of Thor).Overall Superman is by far the physically more powerful. However if Sentry has the power of a several suns, might not some of them be red suns ??He may be able to hurt Superman through the use of red sun radiation, but this depends upon him knowing about this weakness. Also he would really need to bathe Superman in this enery for some time to get the required effect.It would be an interesting battle but If Sentry does not discover/know of this weakness then Superman should overpower him as Sentry's energy attacks could act to make Superman stronger."

i couldn't have put it better myself

M

#27 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"There's no clear definition of his abilities, but Bendis says to keep in mind, "Anyone with the power of a million exploding suns is going to need someone to keep him in check.""

ok, but how are those powers used?

looking round the net for details on his powers, i haven't found anything that would really damage Superman aside from the radiation emition...

M

#28 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Okay, here it is. Wizard #163 May 2005. "He's the most powerful superhero on Earth," explains Matt Murdock in New Avengers #1. There's no clear definition of his abilities, but Bendis says to keep in mind, "Anyone with the power of a million exploding suns is going to need someone to keep him in check.""

...

#29 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

The_Creator says:

"Sentry has been shown to massively weaker than Superman in recent issues of Might Avengers (struggling to slow a hellicarriers descent - ergo he can lift around 60,000 tonnes). Superman can lift more than 2,500,000 tonnes (from Whos Who in the DC universe). He has been boosted in power since then so an estimate is hard to give.Also recently Sentry was bloodied by Ultron (having taken over Iron Man's form). So he got a busted lip from someone of near the same strength level. Superman on the otherhand has taken blows from much stronger opponents than Sentry with no damage. It took a 10 megatonne nuke to KO Superman.Superspeed - Superman has been shown on numerous occasions to move and react dozens of times in a second like Flash can (but just not as fast).When have we seen Sentry do this. Sure he can fly fast but that's different. Sentry has not been shown to catch dozens of bullets or to throw dozens of punches in fractions of a second.Superman has very potent heat vision capable of slagging alien starships. Sentry also possesses huge light/heat emissions powers, enough to cause the Absorbing Man to explode (he can absorb the power of Thor).Overall Superman is by far the physically more powerful. However if Sentry has the power of a several suns, might not some of them be red suns ??He may be able to hurt Superman through the use of red sun radiation, but this depends upon him knowing about this weakness. Also he would really need to bathe Superman in this enery for some time to get the required effect.It would be an interesting battle but If Sentry does not discover/know of this weakness then Superman should overpower him as Sentry's energy attacks could act to make Superman stronger."

Sentry was created in 05, you cant really compare what Superman has been shown to do to the Sentry. The Ultron arc has to have him blooded cause who wants to see it end in the first book?
Post Edited:2007-08-21 13:00:40

#30 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"The_Creator says:
"Sentry has been shown to massively weaker than Superman in recent issues of Might Avengers (struggling to slow a hellicarriers descent - ergo he can lift around 60,000 tonnes). Superman can lift more than 2,500,000 tonnes (from Whos Who in the DC universe). He has been boosted in power since then so an estimate is hard to give. Also recently Sentry was bloodied by Ultron (having taken over Iron Man's form). So he got a busted lip from someone of near the same strength level. Superman on the otherhand has taken blows from much stronger opponents than Sentry with no damage. It took a 10 megatonne nuke to KO Superman. Superspeed - Superman has been shown on numerous occasions to move and react dozens of times in a second like Flash can (but just not as fast). When have we seen Sentry do this. Sure he can fly fast but that's different. Sentry has not been shown to catch dozens of bullets or to throw dozens of punches in fractions of a second. Superman has very potent heat vision capable of slagging alien starships. Sentry also possesses huge light/heat emissions powers, enough to cause the Absorbing Man to explode (he can absorb the power of Thor). Overall Superman is by far the physically more powerful. However if Sentry has the power of a several suns, might not some of them be red suns ?? He may be able to hurt Superman through the use of red sun radiation, but this depends upon him knowing about this weakness. Also he would really need to bathe Superman in this enery for some time to get the required effect. It would be an interesting battle but If Sentry does not discover/know of this weakness then Superman should overpower him as Sentry's energy attacks could act to make Superman stronger."
Sentry was created in 05, you can really compare what Superman has been shown to do to the Sentry. The Ultron arc has to have him blooded cause who wants to see it end in the first book?"

Exactly. The Same goes with Flash, Supes, Martian Manhunter, Mr. Majestic, and just about every powerful super hero.

#31 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"The_Creator says:
"Sentry has been shown to massively weaker than Superman in recent issues of Might Avengers (struggling to slow a hellicarriers descent - ergo he can lift around 60,000 tonnes). Superman can lift more than 2,500,000 tonnes (from Whos Who in the DC universe). He has been boosted in power since then so an estimate is hard to give. Also recently Sentry was bloodied by Ultron (having taken over Iron Man's form). So he got a busted lip from someone of near the same strength level. Superman on the otherhand has taken blows from much stronger opponents than Sentry with no damage. It took a 10 megatonne nuke to KO Superman. Superspeed - Superman has been shown on numerous occasions to move and react dozens of times in a second like Flash can (but just not as fast). When have we seen Sentry do this. Sure he can fly fast but that's different. Sentry has not been shown to catch dozens of bullets or to throw dozens of punches in fractions of a second. Superman has very potent heat vision capable of slagging alien starships. Sentry also possesses huge light/heat emissions powers, enough to cause the Absorbing Man to explode (he can absorb the power of Thor). Overall Superman is by far the physically more powerful. However if Sentry has the power of a several suns, might not some of them be red suns ?? He may be able to hurt Superman through the use of red sun radiation, but this depends upon him knowing about this weakness. Also he would really need to bathe Superman in this enery for some time to get the required effect. It would be an interesting battle but If Sentry does not discover/know of this weakness then Superman should overpower him as Sentry's energy attacks could act to make Superman stronger."
Sentry was created in 05, you cant really compare what Superman has been shown to do to the Sentry. The Ultron arc has to have him blooded cause who wants to see it end in the first book?
Post Edited:2007-08-21 13:00:40"

I agree.

However, having read through all the appearances of the Sentry he does not display the kind of overt power levels of Superman.

The one area that was a stand out was his destruction of Absorbing Man. Obviously Sentry can realease massive amounts of power - enough to overlad the Absorbing Man.

So we have to base our opinions on what we have read. And so far that does not suggest Sentry winning this fight.

#32 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

The_Creator says:

"Gambler says:
"The_Creator says:
"Sentry has been shown to massively weaker than Superman in recent issues of Might Avengers (struggling to slow a hellicarriers descent - ergo he can lift around 60,000 tonnes). Superman can lift more than 2,500,000 tonnes (from Whos Who in the DC universe). He has been boosted in power since then so an estimate is hard to give. Also recently Sentry was bloodied by Ultron (having taken over Iron Man's form). So he got a busted lip from someone of near the same strength level. Superman on the otherhand has taken blows from much stronger opponents than Sentry with no damage. It took a 10 megatonne nuke to KO Superman. Superspeed - Superman has been shown on numerous occasions to move and react dozens of times in a second like Flash can (but just not as fast). When have we seen Sentry do this. Sure he can fly fast but that's different. Sentry has not been shown to catch dozens of bullets or to throw dozens of punches in fractions of a second. Superman has very potent heat vision capable of slagging alien starships. Sentry also possesses huge light/heat emissions powers, enough to cause the Absorbing Man to explode (he can absorb the power of Thor). Overall Superman is by far the physically more powerful. However if Sentry has the power of a several suns, might not some of them be red suns ?? He may be able to hurt Superman through the use of red sun radiation, but this depends upon him knowing about this weakness. Also he would really need to bathe Superman in this enery for some time to get the required effect. It would be an interesting battle but If Sentry does not discover/know of this weakness then Superman should overpower him as Sentry's energy attacks could act to make Superman stronger."
Sentry was created in 05, you cant really compare what Superman has been shown to do to the Sentry. The Ultron arc has to have him blooded cause who wants to see it end in the first book?
Post Edited:2007-08-21 13:00:40"

I agree.

However, having read through all the appearances of the Sentry he does not display the kind of overt power levels of Superman.

The one area that was a stand out was his destruction of Absorbing Man. Obviously Sentry can realease massive amounts of power - enough to overlad the Absorbing Man.

So we have to base our opinions on what we have read. And so far that does not suggest Sentry winning this fight.

"

I agree but I have a quick question, I thought the Sentry couldn't use his full power cause he's scared of releasing the Void.

#33 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"The_Creator says:
"Gambler says:
"The_Creator says:
"Sentry has been shown to massively weaker than Superman in recent issues of Might Avengers (struggling to slow a hellicarriers descent - ergo he can lift around 60,000 tonnes). Superman can lift more than 2,500,000 tonnes (from Whos Who in the DC universe). He has been boosted in power since then so an estimate is hard to give. Also recently Sentry was bloodied by Ultron (having taken over Iron Man's form). So he got a busted lip from someone of near the same strength level. Superman on the otherhand has taken blows from much stronger opponents than Sentry with no damage. It took a 10 megatonne nuke to KO Superman. Superspeed - Superman has been shown on numerous occasions to move and react dozens of times in a second like Flash can (but just not as fast). When have we seen Sentry do this. Sure he can fly fast but that's different. Sentry has not been shown to catch dozens of bullets or to throw dozens of punches in fractions of a second. Superman has very potent heat vision capable of slagging alien starships. Sentry also possesses huge light/heat emissions powers, enough to cause the Absorbing Man to explode (he can absorb the power of Thor). Overall Superman is by far the physically more powerful. However if Sentry has the power of a several suns, might not some of them be red suns ?? He may be able to hurt Superman through the use of red sun radiation, but this depends upon him knowing about this weakness. Also he would really need to bathe Superman in this enery for some time to get the required effect. It would be an interesting battle but If Sentry does not discover/know of this weakness then Superman should overpower him as Sentry's energy attacks could act to make Superman stronger."
Sentry was created in 05, you cant really compare what Superman has been shown to do to the Sentry. The Ultron arc has to have him blooded cause who wants to see it end in the first book?
Post Edited:2007-08-21 13:00:40"
I agree. However, having read through all the appearances of the Sentry he does not display the kind of overt power levels of Superman. The one area that was a stand out was his destruction of Absorbing Man. Obviously Sentry can realease massive amounts of power - enough to overlad the Absorbing Man. So we have to base our opinions on what we have read. And so far that does not suggest Sentry winning this fight. "
I agree but I have a quick question, I thought the Sentry couldn't use his full power cause he's scared of releasing the Void."

Another understandable point. If that's the case, than he's holding alot back. I say we all agree that not enough has been shown about the Sentry to state whether or not he can defeat Supes.

#34 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

" agree but I have a quick question, I thought the Sentry couldn't use his full power cause he's scared of releasing the Void."

Originally the Void was always free to act as he wanted irrevelant to the fact of the Sentry using his powers.

The recent Sentry mini series revealed that for every person Sentry sved, the Void killed one - maintaining a balance.

However at the end of this series, Sentry plunged the Void in to the Sun (no doubt he will be back...).

So Sentry is free to operate at any power level he chooses.

Have we seen his uppermost level - I doubt it.

It appears we have seen a strength max, we know he can be hurt (but not seriously) and he can project massive energy.

There has been evidence of and comments about his huge psionic potential - a massive resrve that is untrained - but this power is used to bind his other powers together - hold the power of a gazillion exploding suns in most likely.

So I discount the psionic attack approach because of no training.

#35 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"Gambler says:
"The_Creator says:
"Gambler says:
"The_Creator says:
"Sentry has been shown to massively weaker than Superman in recent issues of Might Avengers (struggling to slow a hellicarriers descent - ergo he can lift around 60,000 tonnes). Superman can lift more than 2,500,000 tonnes (from Whos Who in the DC universe). He has been boosted in power since then so an estimate is hard to give. Also recently Sentry was bloodied by Ultron (having taken over Iron Man's form). So he got a busted lip from someone of near the same strength level. Superman on the otherhand has taken blows from much stronger opponents than Sentry with no damage. It took a 10 megatonne nuke to KO Superman. Superspeed - Superman has been shown on numerous occasions to move and react dozens of times in a second like Flash can (but just not as fast). When have we seen Sentry do this. Sure he can fly fast but that's different. Sentry has not been shown to catch dozens of bullets or to throw dozens of punches in fractions of a second. Superman has very potent heat vision capable of slagging alien starships. Sentry also possesses huge light/heat emissions powers, enough to cause the Absorbing Man to explode (he can absorb the power of Thor). Overall Superman is by far the physically more powerful. However if Sentry has the power of a several suns, might not some of them be red suns ?? He may be able to hurt Superman through the use of red sun radiation, but this depends upon him knowing about this weakness. Also he would really need to bathe Superman in this enery for some time to get the required effect. It would be an interesting battle but If Sentry does not discover/know of this weakness then Superman should overpower him as Sentry's energy attacks could act to make Superman stronger."
Sentry was created in 05, you cant really compare what Superman has been shown to do to the Sentry. The Ultron arc has to have him blooded cause who wants to see it end in the first book?
Post Edited:2007-08-21 13:00:40"
I agree. However, having read through all the appearances of the Sentry he does not display the kind of overt power levels of Superman. The one area that was a stand out was his destruction of Absorbing Man. Obviously Sentry can realease massive amounts of power - enough to overlad the Absorbing Man. So we have to base our opinions on what we have read. And so far that does not suggest Sentry winning this fight. "
I agree but I have a quick question, I thought the Sentry couldn't use his full power cause he's scared of releasing the Void."
Another understandable point. If that's the case, than he's holding *alot* back. I say we all agree that not enough has been shown about the Sentry to state whether or not he can defeat Supes."

Hence my statement - based on his outing todate, I don't see Sentry beating Superman. Quite the opposite in fact.

However as Sentry makes more appearances I am sure some idiot writer will have him also pushing planets out of orbit and the like and we can all argue about this again........lol

#36 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

The_Creator says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"Gambler says:
"The_Creator says:
"Gambler says:
"The_Creator says:
"Sentry has been shown to massively weaker than Superman in recent issues of Might Avengers (struggling to slow a hellicarriers descent - ergo he can lift around 60,000 tonnes). Superman can lift more than 2,500,000 tonnes (from Whos Who in the DC universe). He has been boosted in power since then so an estimate is hard to give. Also recently Sentry was bloodied by Ultron (having taken over Iron Man's form). So he got a busted lip from someone of near the same strength level. Superman on the otherhand has taken blows from much stronger opponents than Sentry with no damage. It took a 10 megatonne nuke to KO Superman. Superspeed - Superman has been shown on numerous occasions to move and react dozens of times in a second like Flash can (but just not as fast). When have we seen Sentry do this. Sure he can fly fast but that's different. Sentry has not been shown to catch dozens of bullets or to throw dozens of punches in fractions of a second. Superman has very potent heat vision capable of slagging alien starships. Sentry also possesses huge light/heat emissions powers, enough to cause the Absorbing Man to explode (he can absorb the power of Thor). Overall Superman is by far the physically more powerful. However if Sentry has the power of a several suns, might not some of them be red suns ?? He may be able to hurt Superman through the use of red sun radiation, but this depends upon him knowing about this weakness. Also he would really need to bathe Superman in this enery for some time to get the required effect. It would be an interesting battle but If Sentry does not discover/know of this weakness then Superman should overpower him as Sentry's energy attacks could act to make Superman stronger."
Sentry was created in 05, you cant really compare what Superman has been shown to do to the Sentry. The Ultron arc has to have him blooded cause who wants to see it end in the first book?
Post Edited:2007-08-21 13:00:40"
I agree. However, having read through all the appearances of the Sentry he does not display the kind of overt power levels of Superman. The one area that was a stand out was his destruction of Absorbing Man. Obviously Sentry can realease massive amounts of power - enough to overlad the Absorbing Man. So we have to base our opinions on what we have read. And so far that does not suggest Sentry winning this fight. "
I agree but I have a quick question, I thought the Sentry couldn't use his full power cause he's scared of releasing the Void."
Another understandable point. If that's the case, than he's holding *alot* back. I say we all agree that not enough has been shown about the Sentry to state whether or not he can defeat Supes."
Hence my statement - based on his outing todate, I don't see Sentry beating Superman. Quite the opposite in fact. However as Sentry makes more appearances I am sure some idiot writer will have him also pushing planets out of orbit and the like and we can all argue about this again........lol "

Lol. Whoever said he'll be pushing planets? He'll probably be punching stars out. Quick question though, didn't he punch a hole through reality?

#37 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"The_Creator says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"Gambler says:
"The_Creator says:
"Gambler says:
"The_Creator says:
"Sentry has been shown to massively weaker than Superman in recent issues of Might Avengers (struggling to slow a hellicarriers descent - ergo he can lift around 60,000 tonnes). Superman can lift more than 2,500,000 tonnes (from Whos Who in the DC universe). He has been boosted in power since then so an estimate is hard to give. Also recently Sentry was bloodied by Ultron (having taken over Iron Man's form). So he got a busted lip from someone of near the same strength level. Superman on the otherhand has taken blows from much stronger opponents than Sentry with no damage. It took a 10 megatonne nuke to KO Superman. Superspeed - Superman has been shown on numerous occasions to move and react dozens of times in a second like Flash can (but just not as fast). When have we seen Sentry do this. Sure he can fly fast but that's different. Sentry has not been shown to catch dozens of bullets or to throw dozens of punches in fractions of a second. Superman has very potent heat vision capable of slagging alien starships. Sentry also possesses huge light/heat emissions powers, enough to cause the Absorbing Man to explode (he can absorb the power of Thor). Overall Superman is by far the physically more powerful. However if Sentry has the power of a several suns, might not some of them be red suns ?? He may be able to hurt Superman through the use of red sun radiation, but this depends upon him knowing about this weakness. Also he would really need to bathe Superman in this enery for some time to get the required effect. It would be an interesting battle but If Sentry does not discover/know of this weakness then Superman should overpower him as Sentry's energy attacks could act to make Superman stronger."
Sentry was created in 05, you cant really compare what Superman has been shown to do to the Sentry. The Ultron arc has to have him blooded cause who wants to see it end in the first book?
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I agree. However, having read through all the appearances of the Sentry he does not display the kind of overt power levels of Superman. The one area that was a stand out was his destruction of Absorbing Man. Obviously Sentry can realease massive amounts of power - enough to overlad the Absorbing Man. So we have to base our opinions on what we have read. And so far that does not suggest Sentry winning this fight. "
I agree but I have a quick question, I thought the Sentry couldn't use his full power cause he's scared of releasing the Void."
Another understandable point. If that's the case, than he's holding *alot* back. I say we all agree that not enough has been shown about the Sentry to state whether or not he can defeat Supes."
Hence my statement - based on his outing todate, I don't see Sentry beating Superman. Quite the opposite in fact. However as Sentry makes more appearances I am sure some idiot writer will have him also pushing planets out of orbit and the like and we can all argue about this again........lol "
Lol. Whoever said he'll be pushing planets? He'll probably be punching stars out. Quick question though, didn't he punch a hole through reality?"

Zombie Sentry did and the fact that he was near the agte of Heaven snacking on people means I won't treat it as cannon yet.....

#38 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

The_Creator says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"The_Creator says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"Gambler says:
"The_Creator says:
"Gambler says:
"The_Creator says:
"Sentry has been shown to massively weaker than Superman in recent issues of Might Avengers (struggling to slow a hellicarriers descent - ergo he can lift around 60,000 tonnes). Superman can lift more than 2,500,000 tonnes (from Whos Who in the DC universe). He has been boosted in power since then so an estimate is hard to give. Also recently Sentry was bloodied by Ultron (having taken over Iron Man's form). So he got a busted lip from someone of near the same strength level. Superman on the otherhand has taken blows from much stronger opponents than Sentry with no damage. It took a 10 megatonne nuke to KO Superman. Superspeed - Superman has been shown on numerous occasions to move and react dozens of times in a second like Flash can (but just not as fast). When have we seen Sentry do this. Sure he can fly fast but that's different. Sentry has not been shown to catch dozens of bullets or to throw dozens of punches in fractions of a second. Superman has very potent heat vision capable of slagging alien starships. Sentry also possesses huge light/heat emissions powers, enough to cause the Absorbing Man to explode (he can absorb the power of Thor). Overall Superman is by far the physically more powerful. However if Sentry has the power of a several suns, might not some of them be red suns ?? He may be able to hurt Superman through the use of red sun radiation, but this depends upon him knowing about this weakness. Also he would really need to bathe Superman in this enery for some time to get the required effect. It would be an interesting battle but If Sentry does not discover/know of this weakness then Superman should overpower him as Sentry's energy attacks could act to make Superman stronger."
Sentry was created in 05, you cant really compare what Superman has been shown to do to the Sentry. The Ultron arc has to have him blooded cause who wants to see it end in the first book?
Post Edited:2007-08-21 13:00:40"
I agree. However, having read through all the appearances of the Sentry he does not display the kind of overt power levels of Superman. The one area that was a stand out was his destruction of Absorbing Man. Obviously Sentry can realease massive amounts of power - enough to overlad the Absorbing Man. So we have to base our opinions on what we have read. And so far that does not suggest Sentry winning this fight. "
I agree but I have a quick question, I thought the Sentry couldn't use his full power cause he's scared of releasing the Void."
Another understandable point. If that's the case, than he's holding *alot* back. I say we all agree that not enough has been shown about the Sentry to state whether or not he can defeat Supes."
Hence my statement - based on his outing todate, I don't see Sentry beating Superman. Quite the opposite in fact. However as Sentry makes more appearances I am sure some idiot writer will have him also pushing planets out of orbit and the like and we can all argue about this again........lol "
Lol. Whoever said he'll be pushing planets? He'll probably be punching stars out. Quick question though, didn't he punch a hole through reality?"
Zombie Sentry did and the fact that he was near the agte of Heaven snacking on people means I won't treat it as cannon yet..... "

Well that should say something though... the Characters in the Zombie Universe are significantly weaker than those in the mainstream... so that should say something about 616 Sentry... And what do you mean "treat it as cannon"? I've never heard that said before.

#39 Posted by Logic Mark III (2121 posts) - - Show Bio

The punching a hole through reality bit is very relevant. You cannot say the marvel zombies aren't cannon now they have been in so much an 616 universe following on from the continuity of the other stories. The Zombie versions did indeed seem weaker even if only because of the virus [someone may argue the virus gave him this ability but to that i say; it wasn't displayed in any other zombie that disease gave them additional powers]. Thus it is plausible to use the zombie Sentry as a guide to how powerful the 616 Sentry is. Regardless of strength and the sun thing [aint a DC man didn't know about that other stuff but it sounds pretty stupid as 12. Superman works like a plant and give plants too much sun and they die and 2. the example i had of All star Superman where he is dying from being in close proximity to the sun led me to the logical conclusion that full on exposure would overload and kill him...but obviously DC are the king of hack writing]the Sentry can control light...if he takes away Superman's power source he is just fighting Clark Kent.

#40 Posted by Cosmic Sentinel (3749 posts) - - Show Bio

Logic Mark III says:

"...but obviously DC are the king of hack writing]"

Stuff like that always brings a little smile to my face. You do know the hacks that write for DC are mostly the same hacks that write for Marvel?

As for the fight itself, it's hard to call. Both characters have displayed quite varied power levels.

BTW, All-Star Superman is out of continuity.

#41 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio

Logic Mark III says:

"The punching a hole through reality bit is very relevant. You cannot say the marvel zombies aren't cannon now they have been in so much an 616 universe following on from the continuity of the other stories. The Zombie versions did indeed seem weaker even if only because of the virus [someone may argue the virus gave him this ability but to that i say; it wasn't displayed in any other zombie that disease gave them additional powers]. Thus it is plausible to use the zombie Sentry as a guide to how powerful the 616 Sentry is. Regardless of strength and the sun thing [aint a DC man didn't know about that other stuff but it sounds pretty stupid as 12. Superman works like a plant and give plants too much sun and they die and 2. the example i had of All star Superman where he is dying from being in close proximity to the sun led me to the logical conclusion that full on exposure would overload and kill him...but obviously DC are the king of hack writing]the Sentry can control light...if he takes away Superman's power source he is just fighting Clark Kent."

That would mean that he would have to withdraw the energy Superman has already absorbed, as Superman is like a giant battery - full of energy.

Remember that during the crisis with the sun, it took a while for his powers to completely fade (several days I think) as he continued to run on the energy he had already absorbed.

Sentry has not yet displayed the ability to control light in this manner - to effectively manipulate it. Sure he can project it but this is a different level of control.

I personally don't use the example of All Star Superman as this has not been shown to be cannon, as at the time Superman is super charged and dying.

Could Sentry do this to Superman - quite probably but in the mean time, Superman becomes so Super charged that he could put his fist through Sentry and they both end up dead.

As for Sentry punching through reality - spell it 'plot device'.

Hence I take it with the pinch of salt required.

Yep we saw it - has it been repeated anywhere else by the Sentry of 616 - no.

Can he do it - only time will tell. Until then it is irrelevant as we cannot prove that this is a power only the Zombie sentry had.

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#44 Posted by Phorqe (2109 posts) - - Show Bio

I just started reading comics again this year, and I have to say when my friend told me about Sentry, my first thought was "that is weak." marvel doesn't need a golden boy, even if he is a schizo. I like my heroes to have real weaknesses, real problems. I'll let Hulk, Silver Surfer and Galactus go, because they are old school and have their own quirks to them. Marvel doesn't need a Superman rip off.

#45 Posted by Spectrum (4468 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman always wins, he has to hes beter then al, lmao

#46 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

Phorqe says:

"I just started reading comics again this year, and I have to say when my friend told me about Sentry, my first thought was "that is weak." marvel doesn't need a golden boy, even if he is a schizo. I like my heroes to have real weaknesses, real problems. I'll let Hulk, Silver Surfer and Galactus go, because they are old school and have their own quirks to them. Marvel doesn't need a Superman rip off. "

Apparently they felt they did lmao.

#47 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Phorqe says:

"I just started reading comics again this year, and I have to say when my friend told me about Sentry, my first thought was "that is weak." marvel doesn't need a golden boy, even if he is a schizo. I like my heroes to have real weaknesses, real problems. I'll let Hulk, Silver Surfer and Galactus go, because they are old school and have their own quirks to them. Marvel doesn't need a Superman rip off. "

Lol, Sentry may be a Superman rip off, but characters in both universes are rip offs. In my opinion, I think Sentry is a cooler character than Supes. It goes beyond the fact that he's a Marvel character, I just think he's a cool character so far.

#48 Posted by Phorqe (2109 posts) - - Show Bio

Being cooler than Superman is like saying your less gay than Micheal Jackson. Everyone is.

#49 Posted by Logic Mark III (2121 posts) - - Show Bio

HAHAHAHAAHAH

#50 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Phorqe says:

"Being cooler than Superman is like saying your less gay than Micheal Jackson. Everyone is. "

lmao. That was funny.