Greetings all, I read this thread and had to sign up and add my 2c......Sentry....could...never.....beat...Superman.
It's not even a matter of power, think about it. If I were at home I could quickly grab the issue, but for now I'll hope you all follow :P JLA, recently, Sups gets in a fight with Dr. Light.. He's getting thrashed around, but isn't hurt, and as he eludes to, is getting powered up by Dr. Light hitting him. I think it was Dr. Light, hmm...sure it was. In any event, from the way Sentry is described (including the pics above) it seems like he is constatnly exuding yellow sunlight, and uses it directly in his fights. So, as it appears that Sentry has the power of a million....seemingly yellow....suns, every time he hits Sups, Sups get a chagre. Next thing you know he's as powerful as he was in that whole Imperix saga when he flew into the sun.
Just putting it out there
Onthe flip side, one could argue that the sunlight fuels Sentry, but that he doesn't exude it when he attacks, in a simular manner to Hulk. Hulk is fueled by Gamma radiation, but one can hardly say he leaks the stuff when he's in a fight, well, in the comics I mean, in the old game that followed the fail movie he seemed to irradiate the stuff. Anwyay, my thoughts, lemme know what you guys think :)
When will everyone wake up and smell the flowers. Superman will always and forever win. If sentry max out... you have to keep in mind Superman maxxed out become Superman Gold.... SUPERMAN ALWAYS WINS!!!
" When will everyone wake up and smell the flowers. Superman will always and forever win. If sentry max out... you have to keep in mind Superman maxxed out become Superman Gold.... SUPERMAN ALWAYS WINS!!! "
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Posted by JePx
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- 1 year, 10 months ago
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@why so serious: That was hilarious! xD Also if sentry could beat Molecule man in Dark Avengers I Think he could tear supes apart with ease. Only a fanboy could argue against that logic :\
sentry is atleast 1000 times stronger than superman he defeated ares and Sentry is the only person that's strong enough to make hulk turn back to human if it were superman that attacked the hulk he would be finished
sentry is atleast 1000 times stronger than superman he defeated ares and Sentry is the only person that's strong enough to make hulk turn back to human if it were superman that attacked the hulk he would be finished
Sentry if its dark reign/siege sentry as he had void & that massive power increase plus that manipulation powers that would wreck superman easy .
Manipulation powers are useless here, his only feats at that are a bunch of magic tricks. What massive power increase? And just prior to Dark Reign, Sentry ran away crying when a Skrull basically told him he was a loser.
Sentry if its dark reign/siege sentry as he had void & that massive power increase plus that manipulation powers that would wreck superman easy .
Manipulation powers are useless here, his only feats at that are a bunch of magic tricks. What massive power increase? And just prior to Dark Reign, Sentry ran away crying when a Skrull basically told him he was a loser.
That mentally retarded part of sentry happens, he just loves crying.
Unless he gets void i dont see sentry pulling this off at all.
@HellionVulcan said:
Sentry if its dark reign/siege sentry as he had void & that massive power increase plus that manipulation powers that would wreck superman easy .
did you follow the amazing hercules comics from the Dark Reign saga, i just recently finished reading it and there is an instance where hercules is pretty much toying against sentry. Never does in mention in that comics that hercules is more powerful or stronger then sentry, however, hercules was casually handling sentry and Carnage at the same time. Neither could even land a punch on hercules and carnage got smashed by sentry a couple of times :)
I dont see sentry winning at all, unless, of course, VOID comes into play :).
Sentry if its dark reign/siege sentry as he had void & that massive power increase plus that manipulation powers that would wreck superman easy .
Manipulation powers are useless here, his only feats at that are a bunch of magic tricks. What massive power increase? And just prior to Dark Reign, Sentry ran away crying when a Skrull basically told him he was a loser.
That mentally retarded part of sentry happens, he just loves crying.
Unless he gets void i dont see sentry pulling this off at all.
Even with Void, I don't see Sentry winning this, because I know for a fact Superman hits harder than a helicarrier.
Sentry if its dark reign/siege sentry as he had void & that massive power increase plus that manipulation powers that would wreck superman easy .
Manipulation powers are useless here, his only feats at that are a bunch of magic tricks. What massive power increase? And just prior to Dark Reign, Sentry ran away crying when a Skrull basically told him he was a loser.
That mentally retarded part of sentry happens, he just loves crying.
Unless he gets void i dont see sentry pulling this off at all.
Even with Void, I don't see Sentry winning this, because I know for a fact Superman hits harder than a helicarrier.
But for the helicarrier to hurt Sentry he has to be weakened by magic and very tired. Else void normally cannot be defeated by physical force alone. Come on man, there was an instance where Thor threw his hammer at Void, which just went through him without hurting him. I am sure even thor's hammer hits a lot harder than the helicarrier.
Besides sentry can come back from the dead, i think he mentioned it was because he can warp molecules around him..
Even with Void, I don't see Sentry winning this, because I know for a fact Superman hits harder than a helicarrier.
And because Sentry is also too weak to lift the Helicarrier alone, right?
Superman wouldn't be KO'd by a helicarrier. VoidSentry was KO'd by a helicarrier. Therein lies the cornerstone of my argument. You're welcome to disprove it.
Even with Void, I don't see Sentry winning this, because I know for a fact Superman hits harder than a helicarrier.
And because Sentry is also too weak to lift the Helicarrier alone, right?
Superman wouldn't be KO'd by a helicarrier. VoidSentry was KO'd by a helicarrier. Therein lies the cornerstone of my argument. You're welcome to disprove it.
Superman weakned by magic gets KOed by normal ppl punching him (well it was dragon hitting him, but well when u say normal ppl it sounds more interesting :p )? Void/ Sentry agruably weakned by magic or if u follow what if (NON CANNON) ripping god into half, could be KOed by a hellicarrier thats not such a big deal :)
BIO i think u would like ENZERU (sorry if i mispelled his name) :p
Even with Void, I don't see Sentry winning this, because I know for a fact Superman hits harder than a helicarrier.
And because Sentry is also too weak to lift the Helicarrier alone, right?
Superman wouldn't be KO'd by a helicarrier. VoidSentry was KO'd by a helicarrier. Therein lies the cornerstone of my argument. You're welcome to disprove it.
Superman weakned by magic gets KOed by normal ppl punching him (well it was dragon hitting him, but well when u say normal ppl it sounds more interesting :p )? Void/ Sentry agruably weakned by magic or if u follow what if (NON CANNON) ripping god into half, could be KOed by a hellicarrier thats not such a big deal :)
BIO i think u would like ENZERU (sorry if i mispelled his name) :p
Superman was trained by Zatanna and Phantom Stranger to build a resistance to magic. And he's beaten powerful magic opponents.
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Posted by bi0
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- 1 year, 7 months ago
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@Killemall said:
But for the helicarrier to hurt Sentry he has to be weakened by magic and very tired.
That's something people really like to forget, while also that is very debatable. Bendis simply needed a fast way to end Siege. He didn't think all too much about the story, so he rushed everything in, just like the old Spider-Man series from the 90's was. There was the plot, a lot of action and then it was also over, few seconds after it started.
The plot was that the Void was weakened after being hit by the Norn stones powered weapons(even though he resisted classic Dr. Strange's magic in the past and that Dr. Strange stated that Sentry was always too strong for black magic).
Then the Helicarrier hit him from above ... The Helicarrier, as huge as it was falling from such heights, speeding up so much and hitting the Void directly with all of the vehicles and the weapons in the Helicarrier kinda did the trick (even though Sentry took more then once hit from World War Hulk and was fine for the longest time), but the readers are simply treating the whole scenario like the Void was hit by a car.
@CitizenBane said:
Superman wouldn't be KO'd by a helicarrier. VoidSentry was KO'd by a helicarrier. Therein lies the cornerstone of my argument. You're welcome to disprove it.
No problem. A lot of my statement is above ^.
The thingy is that Siege was written by Bendis. While I have to say that Bendis wrote few good stories, he still started producing more and more crap in the last years and I'm not seeing him stopping that, so I'm expecting him to mess up other stories aswell. Just like Fraction started messing up with the Thor comics at the moment.
The Helicarrier scenario was a weak moment in Voidsentry's history, that's true, but there should also be no denial that it was just for the sake of the plot. It's not the magical way to defeat the character. To simply throw something heavy at him, because he survived a lot more impressive and destructive things. Taking nukes as Sentry in the face, or tanking hits from World War Hulk, Blue Marvel, Black Bolt and so on - even healing while being in the sun. Or easily taking strongest shots from Thor and Ultron as Voidsentry.
Or moments where the Void took on the entire Avengers, X-men, Namor and his followers, the Inhumans, the S.H.I.E.L.D guys, the Fantastic Four and even the Amazing Spider-Man and made them look like children, until Emma Frost managed to calm Robert Reynolds down, who let the Void disappear. I don't even want to talk about the past where he faced classic Thor and classic Dr. Strange and ignored them.
There is one more thingy: You don't like Sentry as a character, so you're pissed off when you see him in a battle, but I can comfort you, friend. That's also always something I'm thinking when I see the X-Men, the mutants with mostly one single superpower, who are able to trade blows with a lot more powerful opponents and survive it (Cyclops VS Iron Patriot anyone?) - since I know that they're only surviving for the plot, just like Void died for the plot. Cyclops, Storm and the others have never to deal with bullets which would be able to kill them off once and for all and Void gets badly hurt by a flying ship, even though he should be able to easily shrug it off, because he has the durability feats and he has the strenght to level the entire Helicarrier with one punch.
@Killemall said:
BIO i think u would like ENZERU (sorry if i mispelled his name) :p
Even with Void, I don't see Sentry winning this, because I know for a fact Superman hits harder than a helicarrier.
And because Sentry is also too weak to lift the Helicarrier alone, right?
Superman wouldn't be KO'd by a helicarrier. VoidSentry was KO'd by a helicarrier. Therein lies the cornerstone of my argument. You're welcome to disprove it.
Superman weakned by magic gets KOed by normal ppl punching him (well it was dragon hitting him, but well when u say normal ppl it sounds more interesting :p )? Void/ Sentry agruably weakned by magic or if u follow what if (NON CANNON) ripping god into half, could be KOed by a hellicarrier thats not such a big deal :)
BIO i think u would like ENZERU (sorry if i mispelled his name) :p
Superman was trained by Zatanna and Phantom Stranger to build a resistance to magic. And he's beaten powerful magic opponents.
Well isuppose usorta gotwhat imeant. i mean when Superman is weakned he gets KO very easily, say maybe weakned by Red Sun or perhaps Kryptonite, so Sentry being knocked down when he was weakned isnt just a bad thing. Sentry/ Void at his prime (to me it generally happens when his wife is in trouble) would be incredible hard to beat!
@bi0: Here's the thing. I don't dislike Sentry. I have no particular attachment or revulsion to the character. I'm simply stating that Void got KO'd by a helicarrier. Also, Superman's feats are more impressive than Sentry's. Also, Superman has defeated more powerful opponents. Also, the TP and molecule manipulation are pointless since he doesn't use them enough to be even considered. So don't assume I'm pissed off when I see Sentry in a battle. I'm not. I'm only pissed off when I see Onslaught in a battle, but that's because he has the worst origin in all comic history and therefore shouldn't even exist.
#48
Posted by bi0
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- 1 year, 7 months ago
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@CitizenBane said:
@bi0: Here's the thing. I don't dislike Sentry. I have no particular attachment or revulsion to the character. I'm simply stating that Void got KO'd by a helicarrier.
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Sucka tried to play me, but you never payed me, never!
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Pay back is coming, you will be running, forever!
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Until I get my vengeance, I will never end this mayhem!
Also, Superman's feats are more impressive than Sentry's. Also, Superman has defeated more powerful opponents.
Oh, could it be because Superman was created in the 30's, while Sentry was created in the year 2000? :X So it's 10 years of existance vs 80 years of existance! It would be interesting to compare their canon-feats of the last 10 years. Then it wouldn't be so clear anymore. And yeah, of course Superman has the better opponents, because the main thing about the Sentry was always the story - his nigh-unique introduction (Miracleman was the first one who had the same introduction). Sentry had only ... don't let me lie right now ... he had like 2 real enemies? The Void and the Generals, while the enemies from the Age Of The Sentry were just not important in the long run.
Also, the TP and molecule manipulation are pointless since he doesn't use them enough to be even considered.
Doesn't change the fact that he has these abilities. The OP stated that Sentry is stable. And a stable Sentry had the control over these abilities. Using telepathy and matter manipulation, even though they maybe only appeared once or twice. It's just like with Mr. Majestic. He didn't used telekinesis that often, but these abilities are still listed.
So don't assume I'm pissed off when I see Sentry in a battle. I'm not.
Oh no, you didn't!
And how do you even know who Enzeru is?
Because I am Enzeru, of course. I created this account, to insult Static Shock, who messed up the 3 days ban, because I was evil (saying things like "moron", and "shit" and so on). After the whole story, I will get a perma-ban and won't be able to discuss about the fights anymore, but that's okay. Sometimes it's all about sending a message - literally!
Because I am Enzeru, of course. I created this account, to insult Static Shock, who messed up the 3 days ban, because I was evil (saying things like "moron", and "shit" and so on). After the whole story, I will get a perma-ban and won't be able to discuss about the fights anymore, but that's okay. Sometimes it's all about sending a message - literally!
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