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Sentry vs Starbreaker
@newblood2333: @realitywarper: @fabulousness17: @micah:
For those who do not know Starbreaker, he's a cosmic vampire with the unlimited ability to manipulate and absorb any type of energy (including negative emotions)being considered as one of the most powerful beings in the universe by the Guardians of the Universe and others. Strabreaker is more than capable of draining it until leave it powerless and his deteriorated mental state, anger and aggression will make it even stronger.
Feats
Absorb energies from a sun (Vega) taking 100 million years of its lifespan.
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He has fed on the fabric of reality.
A weakened Starbreaker drains energy from 3 suns.
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Turns Booster Gold's force field into one of his own.
Starbreaker is capable of absorbing ALL the universe's energy
Starbreaker has more feats, if you guys need more scans...just ask
Starbreaker physical form has been destroyed by a shot of a railgun at blank point.
Sentry destroys him in one punch.
@xiix said:
@realitywarper: I've read all of his appearances. No, he doesn't need to feed in order to have a physical form(assuming that's what you meant instead of human). He was also starved of energy in that instance/wasn't at standard power-levels.
I'm saying that he needed to feed himself in order to quit his larval form of Sun-eater and become Starbreaker.
However he was starved after a fight in that instance after the team absorbed his energies :
Something that Sentry can replicate easily or he needs just to attack Starbreaker all-the-time until he deplete all of his energies.
The level of his energy manipulation power is tremendous.
@realitywarper: I see. But for the record he's always been Starbreaker; His larval/Sun-Eater state was never shown/published. All of his appearances have been as 'fully grown'/mature.
He just appears differently in that instance because Zatanna cast a spell so his true appearance would be revealed. He otherwise simply appears humanoid as a preference.
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Just in case some user haven't read the full thread I will repost :
#32 Posted by RealityWarper (8933 posts) - 4 hours, 6 minutes ago - Show Bio
@xiix said:
@realitywarper: I've read all of his appearances. No, he doesn't need to feed in order to have a physical form(assuming that's what you meant instead of human). He was also starved of energy in that instance/wasn't at standard power-levels.
I'm saying that he needed to feed himself in order to quit his larval form of Sun-eater and become Starbreaker.
However he was starved after a fight in that instance after the team absorbed his energies :
Something that Sentry can replicate easily or he needs just to attack Starbreaker all-the-time until he deplete all of his energies.
The level of his energy manipulation power is tremendous.
It is obvious that fighting drains Starbreaker energies too.
@realitywarper said:
Just in case some user haven't read the full thread I will repost :
#32 Posted by RealityWarper (8933 posts) - 4 hours, 6 minutes ago - Show Bio
@xiix said:
@realitywarper: I've read all of his appearances. No, he doesn't need to feed in order to have a physical form(assuming that's what you meant instead of human). He was also starved of energy in that instance/wasn't at standard power-levels.
I'm saying that he needed to feed himself in order to quit his larval form of Sun-eater and become Starbreaker.
However he was starved after a fight in that instance after the team absorbed his energies :
Something that Sentry can replicate easily or he needs just to attack Starbreaker all-the-time until he deplete all of his energies.
The level of his energy manipulation power is tremendous.
It is obvious that fighting drains Starbreaker energies too.
He does not need to drain energies to become Starbreaker ,because he's already a more evolved form of Sun eaters...He just appears differently in that instance because Zatanna cast a spell so his true appearance would be revealed.
Hardware confirms that Starbreaker was a holographic image and then Zatanna cas a spell to shown his true apperance.
This is the larval form of a Sun Eater.
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In Justice League 32-34 Starbreaker absorbed energies from Vega through Doctor Light and absorbed energies from Dharma,that is holding together DC Universe and Milestone Universe turning into one. I've never seen Sentry drain something as powerful as Dharma and until now you just posted statments of Sentry's energy draining abilities.....none feats so far...
He was not drained from the fight and in no time this is mentioned.
For nearly drained all the energy he absorbed was necessary Green Lantern (John Stewart),Doctor Light,Firestorm,Icon and Zatanna to do so,moreover Doctor Light was returning the energy absorbed back to Vega and this combined attack drained his energy reserves....far as I know Sentry can be drained too.
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@matchesmalone21 said:
He does not need to drain energies to become Starbreaker ,because he's already a more evolved form of Sun eaters...He just appears differently in that instance because Zatanna cast a spell so his true appearance would be revealed.
Hardware confirms that Starbreaker was a holographic image and then Zatanna cas a spell to shown his true apperance.
This is the larval form of a Sun Eater.
Gallery
In Justice League 32-34 Starbreaker absorbed energies from Vega through Doctor Light and absorbed energies from Dharma,that is holding together DC Universe and Milestone Universe turning into one. I've never seen Sentry drain something as powerful as Dharma and until now you just posted statments of Sentry's energy draining abilities.....none feats so far...
He was not drained from the fight and in no time this is mentioned.
For nearly drained all the energy he absorbed was necessary Green Lantern (John Stewart),Doctor Light,Firestorm,Icon and Zatanna to do so,moreover Doctor Light was returning the energy absorbed back to Vega and this combined attack drained his energy reserves....far as I know Sentry can be drained too.
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He does not need to drain energies to become Starbreaker ,because he's already a more evolved form of Sun eaters...He just appears differently in that instance because Zatanna cast a spell so his true appearance would be revealed.
Hardware confirms that Starbreaker was a holographic image and then Zatanna cas a spell to shown his true apperance.
Yes.
This is the larval form of a Sun Eater.
I figured that yesterday.
In Justice League 32-34 Starbreaker absorbed energies from Vega through Doctor Light and absorbed energies from Dharma,that is holding together DC Universe and Milestone Universe turning into one. I've never seen Sentry drain something as powerful as Dharma and until now you just posted statments of Sentry's energy draining abilities.....none feats so far...
I never said that Sentry will directly his energies. That's never been my argument. My point is that fighting consumes energies and that Starbreaker don't have unlimited supplies contrary to The Sentry. He will attack and shoot energy beams that Sentry will simply absorb and deplete his reserves. The fight is the thing that will deplete Starbreaker reserves and Starbreakers attacks will be uneffectives and weakens him more and more.
He was not drained from the fight and in no time this is mentioned.
I never said he was, I said this :
However he was starved after a fight in that instance after the team absorbed his energies.
The simple fact that Starbreaker have to actively feed himself on energy sources proves that his reserves are limited and can be exhausted.
Fightring is one of the most tyring activity and the longer the fight will be, the most Starbreaker will be weakened.
For nearly drained all the energy he absorbed was necessary Green Lantern (John Stewart),Doctor Light,Firestorm,Icon and Zatanna to do so,moreover Doctor Light was returning the energy absorbed back to Vega and this combined attack drained his energy reserves....far as I know Sentry can be drained too.
There is just one instance where Sentry is drained of his energies, well it's against Absorbing Man and he tries and fail :
@realitywarper said:
@matchesmalone21 said:
I never said he was, I said this :
However he was starved after a fight in that instance after the team absorbed his energies.
The simple fact that Starbreaker have to actively feed himself on energy sources proves that his reserves are limited and can be exhausted.
Fightring is one of the most tyring activity and the longer the fight will be, the most Starbreaker will be weakened.
For nearly drained all the energy he absorbed was necessary Green Lantern (John Stewart),Doctor Light,Firestorm,Icon and Zatanna to do so,moreover Doctor Light was returning the energy absorbed back to Vega and this combined attack drained his energy reserves....far as I know Sentry can be drained too.
There is just one instance where Sentry is drained of his energies, well it's against Absorbing Man and he tries and fail :
At what point someone said Starbreaker has unlimited reserves? The only thing that was said is that it can drain an infinite amount of energy from different sources,may even capable absorb the life force and the own universe (if the whole matter were converted into energy) as mentioned in one of the scan I've posted.
You are really trying to compare Absorbing Man with Strabreaker? A character that barely have energy draining feats and is not even on par with like Firestrom or Green Lantern? How can Absorbing Man be compared to someone capable to drain suns, galaxies (Mentioned in DC One Million) and even the fabric of reality? That does not prove that Sentry is immune to this kind of attack, only proves how ineffective Absorbing Man's powers are against characters like Sentry.
Since I can't post scan of the entire fight..will post some scans only.
After Zatanna cast a spell to disperse his energy form Strabreaker was ''stunned'' taking advantage of the situation John Stewart dropped the cave on it and Zatanna teleported the team to the Himalaya mountains and a few moments later Starbreaker goes after them. I will say again in no time he seems to be weakening because of the fight.
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That's never been my argument. My point is that fighting consumes energies and that Starbreaker don't have unlimited supplies contrary to The Sentry. He will attack and shoot energy beams that Sentry will simply absorb and deplete his reserves. The fight is the thing that will deplete Starbreaker reserves and Starbreakers attacks will be uneffectives and weakens him more and more.
Starbreaker rarely comes into physical confrontation against a character, most likely it wouldn't shoot energy against him and even if it did it wouldn't be difficult to deduce that Sentry is trying to drain him. Furthermore it could create avatars during the fight to distract and drains it or use avatars to drain it at once, just as he did with the Justice League.
Starbreaker could also take the oEarth out of orbit and throw it into the sun, and then feed on the fear of world population and the resulting energy of the explosion to get even more powerful.
@lvenger: Thank you mate....aren't you a moderator some months ago?
@matchesmalone21 said:
@realitywarper said:
@matchesmalone21 said:
I never said he was, I said this :
However he was starved after a fight in that instance after the team absorbed his energies.
The simple fact that Starbreaker have to actively feed himself on energy sources proves that his reserves are limited and can be exhausted.
Fightring is one of the most tyring activity and the longer the fight will be, the most Starbreaker will be weakened.
For nearly drained all the energy he absorbed was necessary Green Lantern (John Stewart),Doctor Light,Firestorm,Icon and Zatanna to do so,moreover Doctor Light was returning the energy absorbed back to Vega and this combined attack drained his energy reserves....far as I know Sentry can be drained too.
There is just one instance where Sentry is drained of his energies, well it's against Absorbing Man and he tries and fail :
At what point someone said Starbreaker has unlimited reserves? The only thing that was said is that it can drain an infinite amount of energy from different sources,may even capable absorb the life force and the own universe (if the whole matter were converted into energy) as mentioned in one of the scan I've posted.
I mention the fact that he hasn't because it matters in that fight.
1) Sentry absorb unlimited energies from whatever sources exist as I showed you above, that's why Absorbing Man couldn't drain him.
2) Are you aware that in order to drain the energy of the Universe Starbreaker need to convert the matter of the Universe with the Omega device that he seems not to possess ???
That's in the scan that you posted above :
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/4576644-17.jpeg
You are really trying to compare Absorbing Man with Strabreaker? A character that barely have energy draining feats and is not even on par with like Firestrom or Green Lantern? How can Absorbing Man be compared to someone capable to drain suns, galaxies (Mentioned in DC One Million) and even the fabric of reality? That does not prove that Sentry is immune to this kind of attack, only proves how ineffective Absorbing Man's powers are against characters like Sentry.
And Absorbing-Man absorbed the energies of a Cosmic Cube and Odin's attacks but couldn't absorb the unlimited energies of The Sentry.
That's why I think that the draining of his energies will be uneffective.
Since I can't post scan of the entire fight..will post some scans only.
After Zatanna cast a spell to disperse his energy form Strabreaker was ''stunned'' taking advantage of the situation John Stewart dropped the cave on it and Zatanna teleported the team to the Himalaya mountains and a few moments later Starbreaker goes after them. I will say again in no time he seems to be weakening because of the fight.
I already posted those scans as I have the comic book.
Starbreaker rarely comes into physical confrontation against a character, most likely it wouldn't shoot energy against him and even if it did it wouldn't be difficult to deduce that Sentry is trying to drain him. Furthermore it could create avatars during the fight to distract and drains it or use avatars to drain it at once, just as he did with the Justice League.
I never said that Sentry will try to directly drain him.
My point is that Sentry will him so hard that it will consumes his energies very fast in order to heal... If he can heal at all and don't die in the first shots.
Or Sentry can just disintegrate him via reality warping, he subdued and teleported Molecule Man away after all...
A feat that even The Beyonder wasn't capable to do.
Starbreaker could also take the oEarth out of orbit and throw it into the sun, and then feed on the fear of world population and the resulting energy of the explosion to get even more powerful.
That will be just more energies to waste.
How is Starbreaker supposed to take down Sentry even with extra energy ?
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