#1 Edited by antiwhipped (244 posts) - - Show Bio

Normal morals(with these two not saying much), win by KO or death. Start 100 yards apart in a random suburban neighborhood.

Round 1: Normal crazy selves. (including void powers)

Round 2 Full control of their powers. (including void powers)

#2 Posted by Saren (26640 posts) - - Show Bio

Not sure what you mean by normal crazy Legion, since he's currently not crazy (much), so I'll assume it's Haller from before Legion Quest and during The Return of Legion. Sentry would beat him.

Second round goes to Legion.

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#3 Posted by antiwhipped (244 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, let's go with that. Do you think not as crazy Legion would make a difference in round one?

#4 Posted by TDK_1997 (15868 posts) - - Show Bio

Both rounds should go to Legion.

#5 Posted by Blacharrt1 (760 posts) - - Show Bio

Legion should take both rounds

for the first round, crazy bob, was way too unstable and his showing fluctuated.

round two, full powered Legion wiped out elder gods, and manipulated an entire universe. Void Sentry although very powerful, i don't see him winning.

#6 Posted by Hyper_God (939 posts) - - Show Bio

Legion ragestomps the golden haired Superman-ripoff . Long live Legion . Legion wins .

#7 Edited by Vance Astro (89524 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know why people make fights with Sentry and say "full control of his powers". He's never really been in full control so we don't know what would happen if he was. When Sentry was mentally stable, that's when he had the least feats. According to Tony Stark and Marvel Handbooks, Sentry's power is unlimited wit mental stability. He pulled Molecule Manipulation out of his ass, who know what more he's capable of.

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#8 Posted by Hyper_God (939 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

I don't know why people make fights with Sentry and say "full control of his powers". He's never really been in full control so we don't know what would happen if he was. When Sentry was mentally stable, that's when he had the least feats. According to Tony Stark and Marvel Handbooks, Sentry's power is unlimited wit mental stability. He pulled Molecule Manipulation out of his ass, who know what more he's capable of.

Stark is no authority when it comes to omnipotents , and the handbook info is not enough when there are insufficient on-panel feats to prove all the hyperbole which is put into Sentry's powerset . Absorbing Man , having absorbed cosmic cube fragments , was able to separate the Void from Sentry , and we all know what a dimwit Creel is .

#9 Posted by Vance Astro (89524 posts) - - Show Bio
@Hyper_God said:

Stark is no authority when it comes to omnipotents , and the handbook info is not enough when there are insufficient on-panel feats to prove all the hyperbole which is put into Sentry's powerset . Absorbing Man , having absorbed cosmic cube fragments , was able to separate the Void from Sentry , and we all know what a dimwit Creel is .

Stark doesn't need to be the authority on omnipotence to know how a characters powers work.The handbooks don't print hyperbole in descriptions of a characters powers and they say that with mental stability Sentry's power is unlimited. There is no hyperbole in Sentry's powerset. The million exploding suns thing has nothing to do with Sentry's powers themselves. What does Creel's intellect have to do with his powers? And what does the cosmic cube incident have to do with what I said?
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#10 Edited by Hyper_God (939 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@Hyper_God said:

Stark is no authority when it comes to omnipotents , and the handbook info is not enough when there are insufficient on-panel feats to prove all the hyperbole which is put into Sentry's powerset . Absorbing Man , having absorbed cosmic cube fragments , was able to separate the Void from Sentry , and we all know what a dimwit Creel is .

Stark doesn't need to be the authority on omnipotence to know how a characters powers work.The handbooks don't print hyperbole in descriptions of a characters powers and they say that with mental stability Sentry's power is unlimited. There is no hyperbole in Sentry's powerset. The million exploding suns thing has nothing to do with Sentry's powers themselves. What does Creel's intellect have to do with his powers? And what does the cosmic cube incident have to do with what I said?

Except when it comes to unlimited power aka "omnipotence"(used in the same context as comic books) , Stark needs to be an authority before making such a comment .

As far as the handbook goes , I believe this is the one you're referring to(seeing how you yourself referred it in the How fast is the Sentry? Much faster than the Speed of Light? thread) :

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Again the bio specifically states that he has "potential" for "limitless power" , if he is in a mentally stable state .Note that this "limitless power" power is described as equal to a "million exploding suns" , which is clearly not unlimited(though it is vast).

He has been clear-minded(i.e his mental state was in good shape) when he briefly managed to contain an unstable cosmic cube(which is so far his best on-panel feat) , before being overwhelmed :

This clearly goes to show that his power is not unlimited . This was also the purpose of the Absorbing Man scans I posted previously .

#11 Posted by Mendis (15 posts) - - Show Bio
@Hyper_God said:

Absorbing Man , having absorbed cosmic cube fragments , was able to separate the Void from Sentry , and we all know what a dimwit Creel is .
Absorbing Man became a reality warper and reality warping >> molecule manipulation.
Therefore Beyonder > Molecule Man :-)
#12 Posted by Hyper_God (939 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mendis said:

@Hyper_God said:

Absorbing Man , having absorbed cosmic cube fragments , was able to separate the Void from Sentry , and we all know what a dimwit Creel is .
Absorbing Man became a reality warper and reality warping >> molecule manipulation. Therefore Beyonder > Molecule Man :-)

Considering how Owen's power source was supposed to be a cosmic cube(aka the Beyonder) portion itself , nope . Not to mention that Owen no longer had the power to warp spacetime during his conflict with Sentry .

#13 Posted by lol (5444 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#14 Edited by ssj_god (12391 posts) - - Show Bio
#15 Posted by highaccuser (11493 posts) - - Show Bio

The hell is this?

Legion stomps.

#16 Posted by lol (5444 posts) - - Show Bio
#17 Posted by X_insignia1 (1406 posts) - - Show Bio

Legion stomps bruh.

#18 Posted by ZhuRong (6729 posts) - - Show Bio

Do people hate Sentry this much?

#19 Posted by Flash_PHOBIA (145 posts) - - Show Bio

Legion easily

#20 Posted by Killemall (18746 posts) - - Show Bio

@lol: Round 1 likely Sentry.

Round 2 Legion, once you are powerful enough to stuffs all reality into a box without much trouble, using just 1 personality, Void isnt going to do much against that.

#21 Posted by dondave (39846 posts) - - Show Bio

Robert

David

#22 Posted by RealityWarper (8514 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1 : Sentry.
Round 2 : Legion.

#23 Posted by lol (5444 posts) - - Show Bio

@lol: Round 1 likely Sentry.

Round 2 Legion, once you are powerful enough to stuffs all reality into a box without much trouble, using just 1 personality, Void isnt going to do much against that.

When Legion beat a character in the level of MM who is way above him?

#24 Posted by sophia89 (11890 posts) - - Show Bio

In age of X one of Legion's characters was afraid of telepath,and couldn't create a reality to fool their tp. Void/sentry is a powerful tp.

so he wins round 1.

#25 Posted by Dextersinister (7325 posts) - - Show Bio

@sophia89:

In age of X one of Legion's characters was afraid of telepath,and couldn't create a reality to fool their tp. Void/sentry is a powerful tp.

That is very early Legion when he wasn't established much as a character, your also mixing up telepathic power with skill, Legion could overpower them but could not reliably fool them. Sentry has no skill.

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#27 Posted by Kingant27 (11938 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Sentry

2. Legion, even the Void would not beat Legion; Legion is so powerful he managed to beat all the Elder Gods.

#28 Edited by sophia89 (11890 posts) - - Show Bio

@sophia89:

In age of X one of Legion's characters was afraid of telepath,and couldn't create a reality to fool their tp. Void/sentry is a powerful tp.

That is very early Legion when he wasn't established much as a character, your also mixing up telepathic power with skill, Legion could overpower them but could not reliably fool them. Sentry has no skill.

that was the arc where he put the universe in a box.

and erasing yourself from 6 billion+ minds some of which are immune or highly resistant to tp takes skill.

the void went inside hulk's head to taunt him,then

If it did that to hulk,legion's fragile mind will fall apart.

#29 Posted by Dextersinister (7325 posts) - - Show Bio

@sophia89:

and erasing yourself from 6 billion+ minds some of which are immune or highly resistant to tp takes skill.

Again your confusing power with skill, if Sentry could activate it at will there may be skill involved but he can't

Sentry has such poor control that he can't remember when Nate Grey could.

#30 Edited by sophia89 (11890 posts) - - Show Bio

@sophia89:

and erasing yourself from 6 billion+ minds some of which are immune or highly resistant to tp takes skill.

Again your confusing power with skill, if Sentry could activate it at will there may be skill involved but he can't

Sentry has such poor control that he can't remember when Nate Grey could.

not sure what you mean here.

hulk and sentry went to face void,void within moments tp'ed hulk.

the OP says sentry has void's powers so void feats are sentry feats.

another feat for void's tp

a splinter of void forced emma to remain in her diamond form so the void doesn't take over her

don't believe me(sorry forgot to put a spoiler block)

a sliver of the void was taking over emma in her diamond form.

betty+emma+xavier 3 omega class tp couldn't get him out.

if that is not skill enough,then i don't know what is.

#31 Posted by pooty (12966 posts) - - Show Bio

@lol said:

@killemall said:

@lol: Round 1 likely Sentry.

Round 2 Legion, once you are powerful enough to stuffs all reality into a box without much trouble, using just 1 personality, Void isnt going to do much against that.

When Legion beat a character in the level of MM who is way above him?

I don't think MM is as powerful as he used to be. He's been retconned a few times. Currently, Beyonder is an inhuman. So Beyonder and MM no longer share powers. If Beyonder is no longer a cosmic cube, I don't think MM is either. And MM beat Sentry but Sentry came back. But this battle is to the death. So if Legion can kill him once the battle is over. again, because of retcons, i'm not sure what level MM is.

#32 Edited by Dextersinister (7325 posts) - - Show Bio

@sophia89: Nothing you've shown or mentioned has anything to do with telepathic skill.

Also that sliver has been trapped indefinitely by Cyclops and although not a telepath is an example of skill.

#33 Edited by sophia89 (11890 posts) - - Show Bio

@dextersinister: If not TP,then what?

sentry/void's powers include telepathy,it was stated many times.

however if you are insisting it's not tp,then fine it's actually molecule manipulation just like Owen reece

since sentry/void's powers comes from molecule manipulation he can be moving a molecule in the brain to induce a tp simulation

Scott tricked the void,he said he is ready and when the void began to take over he trapped it.

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if you read the scan i posted before you will see it's telepathy,the characters dealing with it say it's telepathy,so it's telepathy(if you refuse to believe it's tp,i provided an alternative).

reality warpers are weak against tp assaults[wanda,franklin,legion]void was said to be the most powerful tp on earth sooooooo what happens when a fragile minded godlike being meets a fragile minded godlike being that can use telepathy?

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#35 Posted by sophia89 (11890 posts) - - Show Bio