Sentry vs Legion

Normal morals(with these two not saying much), win by KO or death. Start 100 yards apart in a random suburban neighborhood.

Round 1: Normal crazy selves. (including void powers)

Round 2 Full control of their powers. (including void powers)

Not sure what you mean by normal crazy Legion, since he's currently not crazy (much), so I'll assume it's Haller from before Legion Quest and during The Return of Legion. Sentry would beat him.

Second round goes to Legion.

Yeah, let's go with that. Do you think not as crazy Legion would make a difference in round one?

Both rounds should go to Legion.

Legion should take both rounds

for the first round, crazy bob, was way too unstable and his showing fluctuated.

round two, full powered Legion wiped out elder gods, and manipulated an entire universe. Void Sentry although very powerful, i don't see him winning.

Legion ragestomps the golden haired Superman-ripoff . Long live Legion . Legion wins .

I don't know why people make fights with Sentry and say "full control of his powers". He's never really been in full control so we don't know what would happen if he was. When Sentry was mentally stable, that's when he had the least feats. According to Tony Stark and Marvel Handbooks, Sentry's power is unlimited wit mental stability. He pulled Molecule Manipulation out of his ass, who know what more he's capable of.

@Vance Astro said:

I don't know why people make fights with Sentry and say "full control of his powers". He's never really been in full control so we don't know what would happen if he was. When Sentry was mentally stable, that's when he had the least feats. According to Tony Stark and Marvel Handbooks, Sentry's power is unlimited wit mental stability. He pulled Molecule Manipulation out of his ass, who know what more he's capable of.

Stark is no authority when it comes to omnipotents , and the handbook info is not enough when there are insufficient on-panel feats to prove all the hyperbole which is put into Sentry's powerset . Absorbing Man , having absorbed cosmic cube fragments , was able to separate the Void from Sentry , and we all know what a dimwit Creel is .

Stark is no authority when it comes to omnipotents , and the handbook info is not enough when there are insufficient on-panel feats to prove all the hyperbole which is put into Sentry's powerset . Absorbing Man , having absorbed cosmic cube fragments , was able to separate the Void from Sentry , and we all know what a dimwit Creel is .

@Vance Astro said:

@Hyper_God said:

Stark is no authority when it comes to omnipotents , and the handbook info is not enough when there are insufficient on-panel feats to prove all the hyperbole which is put into Sentry's powerset . Absorbing Man , having absorbed cosmic cube fragments , was able to separate the Void from Sentry , and we all know what a dimwit Creel is .

Stark doesn't need to be the authority on omnipotence to know how a characters powers work.The handbooks don't print hyperbole in descriptions of a characters powers and they say that with mental stability Sentry's power is unlimited. There is no hyperbole in Sentry's powerset. The million exploding suns thing has nothing to do with Sentry's powers themselves. What does Creel's intellect have to do with his powers? And what does the cosmic cube incident have to do with what I said?

Except when it comes to unlimited power aka "omnipotence"(used in the same context as comic books) , Stark needs to be an authority before making such a comment .

As far as the handbook goes , I believe this is the one you're referring to(seeing how you yourself referred it in the How fast is the Sentry? Much faster than the Speed of Light? thread) :

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Again the bio specifically states that he has "potential" for "limitless power" , if he is in a mentally stable state .Note that this "limitless power" power is described as equal to a "million exploding suns" , which is clearly not unlimited(though it is vast).

He has been clear-minded(i.e his mental state was in good shape) when he briefly managed to contain an unstable cosmic cube(which is so far his best on-panel feat) , before being overwhelmed :

This clearly goes to show that his power is not unlimited . This was also the purpose of the Absorbing Man scans I posted previously .

Absorbing Man , having absorbed cosmic cube fragments , was able to separate the Void from Sentry , and we all know what a dimwit Creel is .

@Mendis said:

@Hyper_God said:

Absorbing Man , having absorbed cosmic cube fragments , was able to separate the Void from Sentry , and we all know what a dimwit Creel is .

Absorbing Man became a reality warper and reality warping >> molecule manipulation. Therefore Beyonder > Molecule Man :-)

Considering how Owen's power source was supposed to be a cosmic cube(aka the Beyonder) portion itself , nope . Not to mention that Owen no longer had the power to warp spacetime during his conflict with Sentry .

bump

cool thread you bumped.. i'm gonna tag someone

@thorboy2221

The hell is this?

Legion stomps.

@killemall

Legion stomps bruh.

Do people hate Sentry this much?

Legion easily

@lol: Round 1 likely Sentry.

Round 2 Legion, once you are powerful enough to stuffs all reality into a box without much trouble, using just 1 personality, Void isnt going to do much against that.

Robert

David

Round 1 : Sentry.
Round 2 : Legion.

When Legion beat a character in the level of MM who is way above him?

@sophia89:

In age of X one of Legion's characters was afraid of telepath,and couldn't create a reality to fool their tp. Void/sentry is a powerful tp.

That is very early Legion when he wasn't established much as a character, your also mixing up telepathic power with skill, Legion could overpower them but could not reliably fool them. Sentry has no skill.

1. Sentry

2. Legion, even the Void would not beat Legion; Legion is so powerful he managed to beat all the Elder Gods.

@sophia89:

and erasing yourself from 6 billion+ minds some of which are immune or highly resistant to tp takes skill.

Again your confusing power with skill, if Sentry could activate it at will there may be skill involved but he can't

Sentry has such poor control that he can't remember when Nate Grey could.

I don't think MM is as powerful as he used to be. He's been retconned a few times. Currently, Beyonder is an inhuman. So Beyonder and MM no longer share powers. If Beyonder is no longer a cosmic cube, I don't think MM is either. And MM beat Sentry but Sentry came back. But this battle is to the death. So if Legion can kill him once the battle is over. again, because of retcons, i'm not sure what level MM is.

@sophia89: Nothing you've shown or mentioned has anything to do with telepathic skill.

Also that sliver has been trapped indefinitely by Cyclops and although not a telepath is an example of skill.

@sophia89: good scans.