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Posted by patrat18 (8876 posts) - - Show Bio

Rules

Fight to death

Standard Gear

No BFR

Morals Off

No knowledge on each other

Fight takes place in france

Both teams start 100 meters away from each other

Who wins, and why.

#3 Posted by New_World_Order (12546 posts) - - Show Bio

Sentry.

#4 Posted by patrat18 (8876 posts) - - Show Bio
#5 Posted by Ratatat (697 posts) - - Show Bio

Apollo

#6 Edited by SheenLantern (6241 posts) - - Show Bio

Apollo

#7 Posted by New_World_Order (12546 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18: Cause I've always seen Apollo as a watered dowm Superman, which Sentry's is not. Sentry and Apollo have very similar powers, but Sentry has it to a much higher degree

#8 Posted by patrat18 (8876 posts) - - Show Bio
#9 Edited by Cgoodness (3903 posts) - - Show Bio

I think we need to leave Sentry out of battles till we have more info on his powers and overall capability

#10 Posted by Pop123 (90 posts) - - Show Bio

Sentry should win very easy with his Molecule Man powers.

#11 Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (1975 posts) - - Show Bio

Sentry easily he's more powerful and faster and as ThunderGod'sWrath said isn't a watered down version of Superman. Wonder Man vs Apollo would've been a better choice of a fight but Sentry wins.

#12 Posted by patrat18 (8876 posts) - - Show Bio
#13 Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (1975 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18: I know who he is. He isn't near Sentry level if he's gone from the sun for too long his power's start to get weaker and if long enough he looses them. he's incredibly strong and and invulnerable but Sentry is more powerful than god's and heralds and inhumans eternals monster's etc... he could easily use his molecular manipulation power to tear Apollo to pieces like he did to Molecule Man.

#14 Edited by X_insignia1 (1373 posts) - - Show Bio

^he stated no Void, so there is no molecular manipulation.

#15 Posted by patrat18 (8876 posts) - - Show Bio

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: no void

Apollo's powers include superhuman strength, flight, and near invulnerability (the character has been shown entering a lava flow to deactivate a volcano, and walking on the surface of the sun). His eyes are constructed to concentrate solar energy into laser-like blasts. Apollo can also release his solar energy from other parts of his body (hands, mouth, etc.) or in an omni-directional flare, but these moves are taxing. He can fly as well, at least fast enough to circle the globe in just under 30 seconds.

Like Superman, Apollo's powers are dependent on the sun. His body behaves like a battery, absorbing sunlight and converting it into energy he can use. Without exposure to the sun his strength, resilience and ability to fly diminish, ultimately to the point of disappearing - a concern, since aboard the Carrier he is often out of direct sunlight. From the point of exhaustion, he can regain the capacity for flight from 20 seconds of sun exposure. Two hours in sun-light restores him to full capacity. Transporting (using the Carrier's 'Door' system) into close proximity with the sun allows him to recharge more quickly.

Since Apollo's energy derives entirely from the sun, he can survive in anaerobic environments indefinitely. He was shown in early issues of The Authority flying without protective equipment in space, explaining he could do so by the simple method of not breathing. He also does not require food or drink, though he apparently enjoys both.

Apollo has been described a number of times as a Majestic-Class superhuman, suggesting that his powers rival those of Mister Majestic, or are at least similarly beyond the frame of reference of most humans and superhumans.

#16 Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (1975 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18:

The Sentry is one of the most powerful superheroes in the Marvel Universe. He has personally estimated the high level of his overall power by often stating that he has the "power of one million exploding suns." Spider-Man stated that Sentry fought Galactus to a standstill, although this is a hotly debated subject due to Spider-Man's penchant for satire and hyperbole. It was later revealed that this feat was not done alone as Sentry stalemated the world eater with the help of X-Man, Nate Grey, at one of his highest points in power.

Sentry's superhuman strength has enabled him to overpower beings such as Ares, the Olympian God of War, with ease, destroy Asgard by flying through the foundation, easily defeat Terrax, a creation and former Herald of Galactus, and break his axe, and engage and fight to a draw an immensely enraged Hulk whose power levels had increased beyond anything seen before. That fight resulted in both individuals reverting back to human form.

Sentry possesses exceedingly high-level super-speed. This allows him to perform such feats as catching a bullet in his hand and flying from the Earth to the Sun and back in a matter of minutes.

It has been observed that Sentry has extremely heightened senses. This is evidenced by Sentry's statement that he could literally hear the heartbeat of a butterfly in Africa while he himself was still in New York.

Sentry is one of the few superhumans to be considered invincible. Other than his fragile mind, SHIELD and even Iron Man have not been able to find any other areas of physical vulnerability. Given that he was revealed to have been carrying on an affair with Rogue, he seemed to be resistant even to her powers.

According to Emma Frost, Sentry is one of the most powerful telepaths on earth. He once wiped the memory of his existence from every person on the planet. Most of Sentry's mental abilities are used to maintain his physical form.

Under extreme emotional distress, Sentry can resurrect another being from death. This was first manifested when Sentry brought his wife back to life by just his touch. Originally, he was not even aware that he had this ability, and was shocked that he was capable of doing it. Sentry has not gained full control over this power, however.

Sentry has the ability to emit a wave of radiation that can calm the Hulk down.

During the Civil War, Spider-Man and a group of SHIELD agents ranked Sentry as the most powerful of all Earth's heroes, with the Hulk ranked as second and Black Bolt ranked as third (It should be noted that at this time Thor was dead, so he didn't have a place on the list). While this arbitrary ranking is at best debatable (particularly given the events of World War Hulk), the Sentry is nevertheless one of the most powerful meta-humans on the planet and has even been called a "living H-Bomb" by Norman Osborn.

After being blown apart by the witch Morgan Le Fay, Sentry later reformed at Avengers Tower under his own power. He was again thought to have been killed when his wife shot him with one of Noh-Varr's weapons and twice was seemingly destroyed by Molecule Man. After his last apparent death at the hands of Molecule Man, Sentry came back with the realization that he could also control all forms of matter to a molecular level, much like Owen Reece. Following the revelation, the Sentry was able to use his power to beat Molecule Man with ease and then teleport him to an unknown location. He firmly stated that he cannot die meaning he is for all intents and purposes immortal.

In one instance he projected the Void as an entirely separate entity, a giant monster. This may suggest some form of light manipulation and the creation of hard-light constructs, but should more likely be attributed to his control over matter.

As the Void, Robert has an even more diverse set of powers. It is thought by many that Robert is even more powerful as the Void than he is in his Sentry incarnation.

#17 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@x_insignia1 said:

^he stated no Void, so there is no molecular manipulation.

Doesnt matter as he did not go Void till killing Ares. Sentry learn Molecule Manipulation and was in Sentry's Character when he used it.

Why would Void who wants nothing but carnage and death (as per Siege) want to bring everyone back to life and talk like a civilize person to Osborn?

The Sentry who beat Molecule Man is in now way Void or Void like character. that was all Sentry and acted in sentry's character.

#18 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

Void Characteristics.

  • Knows how to use his power.
  • Has either GLOWING Yellow or Red eyes.
  • Causes Death and Destruction for no real reason.

Sentry at the end of Dark Avengers Characteristics.

  • Explained he just now REALIZE how his power works.
  • No glowing eyes at all.
  • Cares to bring everyone to life and restore order!

How do people try to convince themselves and others that the end of Dark Avengers was Void is beyond me and really foolish when the evidence shows.

#19 Posted by X_insignia1 (1373 posts) - - Show Bio

@x_insignia1 said:

^he stated no Void, so there is no molecular manipulation.

Doesnt matter as he did not go Void till killing Ares. Sentry learn Molecule Manipulation and was in Sentry's Character when he used it.

Why would Void who wants nothing but carnage and death (as per Siege) want to bring everyone back to life and talk like a civilize person to Osborn?

The Sentry who beat Molecule Man is in now way Void or Void like character. that was all Sentry and acted in sentry's character.

nah slim, that was the void, unless you missed the depiction of the black eyes? Sentry is not an avid molecular manipulator in character.

#20 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2 said:

@x_insignia1 said:

^he stated no Void, so there is no molecular manipulation.

Doesnt matter as he did not go Void till killing Ares. Sentry learn Molecule Manipulation and was in Sentry's Character when he used it.

Why would Void who wants nothing but carnage and death (as per Siege) want to bring everyone back to life and talk like a civilize person to Osborn?

The Sentry who beat Molecule Man is in now way Void or Void like character. that was all Sentry and acted in sentry's character.

nah slim, that was the void, unless you missed the depiction of the black eyes? Sentry is not an avid molecular manipulator in character.

Look above durpy durp.

#21 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@x_insignia1: Also the whole "look at his eyes" argument is the most laziest argument ever.

Every showing of Void is RED or YELLOW glowing eyes. Sentry had Black eyes, So freaking what?

You have no proof of anything.

  • Its not stated as Void, but only by Osborn as BOB!!!!
  • He is caring about the life of his friends and not killing them!
  • He has Black Eyes and not YELLOW or RED!
  • He said he REALIZES how his power works instead of just knowing and using it like Void.

You have nothing as proof and all the counter proof to show against it.

Show me one SOLID bit of proof thats Void and not Sentry. Other than your easily OPINIONATED veiw of the Black Eyes.

#22 Posted by New_World_Order (12546 posts) - - Show Bio

Cadence explained it about right.

#23 Posted by capall2 (1428 posts) - - Show Bio

They both have low showings...Sentry who could only stalemate Hulk and also failed to lift the hellcarrier and Apollo who gets blitzed by Midnighter whilst in flight...If Sentry has a stable mind then he could possibly win due to his molecule manipulation powers here...

#24 Posted by patrat18 (8876 posts) - - Show Bio

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: exactly 1 million exploding suns barley did any damage when he was fighting hulk.he went all out on hulk,he said it him self, any further would have been the void, he needed help to lift the helecarrier. may i remind you that sentry is not in his full right mind, he breaks down all the time.

#25 Posted by jimmy11 (171 posts) - - Show Bio

#26 Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (1975 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18: So in his fight against Hulk sentry went all out physically against apollo it would be a different story. and WWHulk is on a different level than Apollo. Apollo would get stomped by Terrax and Thor so Sentry stomps him. Yet Sentry was the only one able to fight Ultron he one shotted wonder man brought down asgard etc he stomps simple. if this was Superman vs Sentry or Apollo vs Wonder Man it would be a better fight.

#27 Posted by Floopay (8610 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2 is correct about the end of Dark Avengers. The Sentry was clearly in full control of himself when he used his molecular manipulation, this was very much evident based on his level of caring for others, and his lack of ruthlessness.

Either way though, Sentry still stood up to Terrax's attacks without harm, he still went toe to toe with WWH without using his speed or his regeneration while completely mentally unstable, and he still has instantaneous regeneration when he wants it.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#28 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio
#29 Posted by Cooldes (3925 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2: Number 1 characteristic of The Void:

Black Speech Bubbles.

molecule man fight was sentry in character as sentry

#30 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@cooldes said:

@cadencev2: Number 1 characteristic of The Void:

Black Speech Bubbles.

molecule man fight was sentry in character as sentry

Actually good point, forgot that.

#31 Posted by patrat18 (8876 posts) - - Show Bio

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: did you even read his stats,sentry vs supes supes stomps hands down.i think you are putting apollo and a low bar because of sentrys of and on feats.

#32 Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (1975 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18: Supe's doesn't stomp. Sentry is the only Marvel Character who can clearly match Superman alongside the current Hyperion Silver Surfer Hulk(only in a physical match up) and Thor. Apollo has had some pretty terrible jobber feats while Sentry hasn't had any. everyone else seems to agree that Sentry wins and if you think WonderMan is a low bar you're wrong he was described a Sentry level just as Apollo is described as Mr Majestic level. Wonder Man has taken on an entire Avenger's team stomped Red Hulk stalemated past Hyperion and although he lost the his battle's to Hulk and Thor he still held his own for quite some time. He's also beaten the Abomination and Thing.

#33 Posted by dondave (34541 posts) - - Show Bio

Sentry

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#34 Posted by patrat18 (8876 posts) - - Show Bio

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: help me out here you even said yourself that superman is far above hulk,s level in everything,and hulk pounded sentry,s face in till he became human superman not holding back would crush sentry with his bare hands.superman holding back would still lobotomize him with ease,sentry has a hand full of feats they are all below new 52 superman.

#35 Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (1975 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18: Superman is above Hulk's level except physically they are probably evenly matched or Hulk is a little superior but Superman is way more powerful and he's alot faster.Superman and Sentry are equal in everything Superman would never pound Sentry. If they ever would fight I would go with Superman for sure but Sentry would be a very good challenge for him saying he stomps Sentry is like saying he stomps Thor Shazam Martian Manhunter Hyperion and Mr Majestic which is ridiculous.

#36 Posted by Killemall (18268 posts) - - Show Bio

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: Actually as long as you take Sentry being able to beat Molecule Man as genuine, neither Superman nor the entire justice league should fare any better against Sentry. I still hate that feat (coz i am a molecule man fan) but just look at molecule man feats. The guy was warping reality in transmultiversal scale, turning upside down entire universes, heck a side effect of Molecule Man vs Beyonder,a fight where Beyonder got stomped, turned an entire 2 dimensional universe into 3 dimensional one.

Kubik, whom marvel says is more powerful than skyfather, outright admit MM is far, far, far more powerful than him, and we are talking about a guy who can hold and crush an entire universe on his hand.

Really if we are to take that feat seriously, Sentry is one of the most powerful Avengers ever (of course second to HOM Wanda, her omniversal feat is just insane).

#37 Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (1975 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall: Agreed but you also have to take into account some of Superman's feats he created a Sun. created a galaxy picked up a dwarf star beat 2 Galactus level being's and held a mini black hole in his hand. created a cosmic armour with sheer thought and saved the multiverse 2 times.

#38 Posted by Killemall (18268 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall: Agreed but you also have to take into account some of Superman's feats he created a Sun.

When did Superman create a sun???

created a galaxy

Or this?

beat 2 Galactus level being's

When did he even fight Galactus level being?? I am surprised.

created a cosmic armour with sheer thought and saved the multiverse 2 times.

Superman had nothing to in creating the armor the armor was created by the monitor as their last time of defense. The armor however was fueled by the greatest story ever told, which happened to be that of Superman.

#39 Edited by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (1975 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall: Pre crisis superman did those not sure which comics. and Imperiex and Anti Monitor are 2 Galactus level being's and he took them on. and I wasn't referencing that feat but yes that is another one thanks for mentioning thar feat.

#40 Posted by King Saturn (223823 posts) - - Show Bio

Sentry should be able to defeat Apollo in a good battle... I think Apollo is physically stronger but Sentry has the better versatility overall. It probably wont be a straight up tussle since both of them could apply wide range attacks...

#41 Posted by spiderbuck (2449 posts) - - Show Bio

Sentry.

#42 Posted by patrat18 (8876 posts) - - Show Bio

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: how are they matched in strength?? when superman is bench pressing the earth for 5 days straight?? sentry again needed help lifting the hellecarrier,got his ass beat by hulk,got his neck snapped by thor come on now.superman would destroy thor if he didin't have magic,he would also beat shazam, they say that superman only uses 25% of his power 25.

#43 Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (1975 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18: Sentry can't be killed beat Molecule man Stalemated Galactus Stalemated Hulk and the whole Helicarrier is kind of stupid because he does have to fight against gravity by holding it up while dealing with the force of the impact it has on him while trying to stop.

#44 Posted by patrat18 (8876 posts) - - Show Bio

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: take that helicarrier sitch up with marvel they wrote it so its fact.sentury can be killed the void can't

#45 Posted by Floopay (8610 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18 said:

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: take that helicarrier sitch up with marvel they wrote it so its fact.sentury can be killed the void can't

Sentry was only killed by the Helicarrier because he depowered himself and begged the Avengers to kill him. He LET himself die, it wasn't the Helicarrier that killed him, it was himself.

Pretty sure @killemall can confirm this with scans, but if you read the arc you would know Sentry was begging to die because he couldn't handle the Void any longer. If anything, that should count as a huge feat on Sentry's part, as any previous attempt to die was halted by the Void, however, in this scenario he was finally able to completely overpower the Void enough to allow his own death, a tremendous feat of willpower.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#46 Edited by X_insignia1 (1373 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2 said:

@x_insignia1: Also the whole "look at his eyes" argument is the most laziest argument ever.

Every showing of Void is RED or YELLOW glowing eyes. Sentry had Black eyes, So freaking what?

You have no proof of anything.

  • Its not stated as Void, but only by Osborn as BOB!!!!
  • He is caring about the life of his friends and not killing them!
  • He has Black Eyes and not YELLOW or RED!
  • He said he REALIZES how his power works instead of just knowing and using it like Void.

You have nothing as proof and all the counter proof to show against it.

Show me one SOLID bit of proof thats Void and not Sentry. Other than your easily OPINIONATED veiw of the Black Eyes.

laziest argument? guy, given that most of the void incarnations are depicted by a distinct blackness in the eyes, it's pretty easy for one to assume that it was the "Void" or to even confuse it for such. And don't flatter yourself. My notifications don't alert me when i'm tagged nor mentioned for whatever reason. Furthermore, has sentry ever used molecular manipulation apart from this, as in SENTRY not the Void?

#47 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@x_insignia1 said:

@cadencev2 said:

@x_insignia1: Also the whole "look at his eyes" argument is the most laziest argument ever.

Every showing of Void is RED or YELLOW glowing eyes. Sentry had Black eyes, So freaking what?

You have no proof of anything.

  • Its not stated as Void, but only by Osborn as BOB!!!!
  • He is caring about the life of his friends and not killing them!
  • He has Black Eyes and not YELLOW or RED!
  • He said he REALIZES how his power works instead of just knowing and using it like Void.

You have nothing as proof and all the counter proof to show against it.

Show me one SOLID bit of proof thats Void and not Sentry. Other than your easily OPINIONATED veiw of the Black Eyes.

laziest argument? guy, given that most of the void incarnations are depicted by a distinct blackness in the eyes, it's pretty easy for one to assume that it was the "Void" or to even confuse it for such. And don't flatter yourself. My notifications don't alert me when i'm tagged nor mentioned for whatever reason. Furthermore, has sentry ever used molecular manipulation apart from this, as in SENTRY not the Void?

You mean when he brought his wife back to life? Or how he changes his outfit in scenes with a flash of light? Or the fact he puts himself back together when Molecule Man blows him up twice. Or the fact he beat back Galactus with his power.... lets face it, your not beating Galactus with our Major Cosmic Power, Magic Power, or Molecule Manipulation. He isnt Magical or Cosmic....

Also you have no answer to the out of character (Acting the good guy and being patient!) or the fact he is explaining his powers as he just learn to use them in any way, where Void simply use them with skill.

#48 Edited by X_insignia1 (1373 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2 said:

@x_insignia1 said:

@cadencev2 said:

@x_insignia1: Also the whole "look at his eyes" argument is the most laziest argument ever.

Every showing of Void is RED or YELLOW glowing eyes. Sentry had Black eyes, So freaking what?

You have no proof of anything.

  • Its not stated as Void, but only by Osborn as BOB!!!!
  • He is caring about the life of his friends and not killing them!
  • He has Black Eyes and not YELLOW or RED!
  • He said he REALIZES how his power works instead of just knowing and using it like Void.

You have nothing as proof and all the counter proof to show against it.

Show me one SOLID bit of proof thats Void and not Sentry. Other than your easily OPINIONATED veiw of the Black Eyes.

laziest argument? guy, given that most of the void incarnations are depicted by a distinct blackness in the eyes, it's pretty easy for one to assume that it was the "Void" or to even confuse it for such. And don't flatter yourself. My notifications don't alert me when i'm tagged nor mentioned for whatever reason. Furthermore, has sentry ever used molecular manipulation apart from this, as in SENTRY not the Void?

You mean when he brought his wife back to life? Or how he changes his outfit in scenes with a flash of light? Or the fact he puts himself back together when Molecule Man blows him up twice. Or the fact he beat back Galactus with his power.... lets face it, your not beating Galactus with our Major Cosmic Power, Magic Power, or Molecule Manipulation. He isnt Magical or Cosmic....

Also you have no answer to the out of character (Acting the good guy and being patient!) or the fact he is explaining his powers as he just learn to use them in any way, where Void simply use them with skill.

Pause. There was no beat-back, from what I recall it was a standstill, and off panel. Moreover no one knows the complete context of that situation ( most likely hungry). The fact that it even came from Spidey most people seem to write it off as hyperbole. His testimony seems to rank pretty low. Hell even Shaman Nate Grey made a comment about them stalemating a hungry Galactus together, however it was clearly evident that it was more of a less a mind whammy.

#49 Edited by CaptnMcDeadpool (956 posts) - - Show Bio

High feats have the Sentry doing stuff like defeating Terrax with one hand.

Literally.

Then breaking his axe like it was nothing.

As the Void, he broke every bone in Hulk's body. Hulk actually expressed fear about confronting the Void.

He has also torn through Dr Strange's magical shield (which has held Hulk in place in previous issue of Defenders) with his bare hands.

Think I'm gonna go with the Sentry.

#50 Posted by Cooldes (3925 posts) - - Show Bio

@x_insignia1: Dude, number ONE characteristic of the void is Black speech bubbles.

Molecule Man fight was Definitely Sentry in character as Sentry