Sebastian Shaw vs Spiderman

Shaw seen Spidy in the news so he has some knowledge of Spidy's powers. Spidy however has no idea what he is in for. 
 
The fight starts in an alley. In character. 
 
Who wins? 
 

Shaw... VERY easily

Been done. 
 
Shaw wins with ease....

Shaw takes it witout much problem.

Shaw takes it witout much problem.

@Jorg said:

but he has no idea about his Spider-sense.

Not that this matters because Spiderman doesn't have it anymore.

Spidy has been hit by less skillful fighters. And I think Shaw's speed increases too.

@Sgtcrispy:  Sorry bud, i'm from England, we get new comics a couple months after America....  But how the hell has that happened???

@Sgtcrispy:  Sorry bud, i'm from England, we get new comics a couple months after America....  But how the hell has that happened???

Sebastian wins. 
:)

Spider-Man. He's not stupid and Shaw is kind of a big mouth. Spider-Man won't be laying big hits down on Shaw for a while, and he's smart enough to realize that Shaw is getting stronger as the fight goes on. Even if he didn't figure it out on his own, Shaw spells it out for his enemies most of the time. If you don't believe go look at a bunch of his fights. More often than not, he explains how his powers work. To avoid Shaw's greater strength, Spider-man can simply avoid his blows and thrown weapons. He doesn't need his spider sense to avoid a single short range attacker if he's paying attention, and even if he gets hit, someone else brought it up already, he can take hits from people stronger than himself. Not getting beaten to death shouldn't be hard, but how does he win? Ren said it earler: webs. Spider-Man could easily fill Shaw's face with webbing to cut down on his breathing. And before we get into Shaw just ripping it off, the webbing is pretty durable, but just in case, Spider-Man could trick Shaw into losing his energy in attacks on Spider-Man that he just avoids. I'm sure Spider-Man could come up with smarter ways to win, but that's pretty easy.

@Jorg said:

@Sgtcrispy: Sorry bud, i'm from England, we get new comics a couple months after America.... But how the hell has that happened???

He built some device to take out a bunch of bugs or something and it got rid of his spider-sense. I haven't read the story myself, but I've heard about it and read Spiderman stories after it where he states how difficult it is to manage without it,

Spider-Man is perfectly capable of winning this fight. Even though increased durability isn't technically part of his power set he has very impressive durability feats. He's much faster than Shaw and much smarter than Shaw. He trapped the Juggernaut in wet cement so I think he's perfectly capable of doing something similar to Shaw. As long as he doesnt give him any kinetic energy to absorb Shaw can't really do anything.

Shaw.

@Sgtcrispy:  Sorry bud, i'm from England, we get new comics a couple months after America....  But how the hell has that happened???

once shaw opens is mouth, his lungs will be filled with webbing. He suffocates, Spidey wins

Shaw for the win.

question:
when Shawn unleashes energy to attack,will he lose it regardless of hitting or not?

btw,i dont think the lack of Spider-Sense is a problem anymore....Peter is currently training with Shang Chi and (based on this preview),seens to be better than ever
 
i mean,that`s the best showing he had against a martial artist since forever :P

this has been done ...alot an i say Shaw he'd kill Spidey@--Anubis--: its in character that would never happen

Ever notice that people rarely include Spidey's intelligence in these fights? I'm pretty sure he could figure out a way to win like always.

Shaw wins

Shaw

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It's funny going back to these old thread and seeing how simple some of these arguments are. Literally no-one has defended Shaw in any tangible way and given a fair inclination of what he can do.

If his power is redirecting Kinetic energy then the first question to address is can Peter survive the enhanced force of his own attacks or that of enemies stronger than himself (without being knocked out) and as we've seen many, MANY times he can. I could imagine Shaw deliberately leaving himself open to attack just to showcase his superiority in power and it probably wouldn't take Peter long to figure out something was a miss. With Shaw's abilities I'm sure he'd be able to match or even beat down Peter but I don't think Peter is dumb enough to attack Shaw repeatedly without figuring out Shaw's ability and while he does you know he wouldn't attack Shaw up close. From there it's just a case of getting Shaw to waste his stamina attacking Spider-Man before incapacitating him or knocking him out.

I know Shaw is not an idiot but he is EXTREMELY vain those tend to be the type of opponents Peter does best against.

Shaw wins for the simple reason that he has prior knowledge. Even without prep, Shaw likes to keep himself recharged with kinetic energy so that almost every time, he seems to possess super strength. Peter has no way of putting Shaw down. If he webs him up, Shaw will tear through it like he tore through concrete when Selene trapped him in it. Any blow Peter delivers will simply make him stronger. While Peter might not be KOed in two or three hits, he will most certainly be hurt.

One could argue that Peter will evade most of Shaw's blows being agile and fast, but Shaw outmaneuvered Nightcrawler when he tried to grapple with Shaw and avoid hitting him.

@the_badman: See, this is what I like a genuine effort to try an establish character strengths. I didn't know Shaw had those feats under his belt. I think Shaw is one of the most awkward characters to analyse for me because I'm not terribly familiar with his character outside of the movies which didn't really make any effort to explain them and one or two comics, which as far as I've experienced he uses his powers rarely unless there's a specific arc I should be looking out for.