@Dane said:
@Esquire: Problems: I've read that Ultmate Doc Ock actually had metal manipulation powers, not strictly a technological harness like the mainstream character. Is this information correct? Because then it can't be used as equipment.
I haven't read all of Ultimate Spider-Man, but as far as I've gotten he's just a scientist with metal arms he uses for experiments, then they get fused to him in an explosion. Later he modifies them to make them more weaponized, but I wasn't under the impression he had any special powers that let him use them. You may be right, but if you are I didn't know about it, either. If that's the case, can I just use 616 Doc Ock's arms?
Deathstroke is not as skilled as Lady Shiva in the Vibranium Fist vs Kung-fu Spider match-up. I really do not think the fight will progress as you foresee. There is no evidence that Cardiac/Deathstroke could tag Spider-Man/Lady Shiva with a staff blast, quite the opposite.
VF isn't trying to tag someone who's as specialized in dodging as Spider-Man. Instead of Cardiac trying to blast a character whose entire combat identity is built around dodging, we have an enhanced Deathstroke, who has shot speedsters with his blast staff (Using a staff that shoots energy to tag a speedy character? Cwutididthar?), trying to tag a similarly enhanced Lady Shiva, who has focused on h2h rather than dodging. That is an entirely different scenario. Although she could indeed take DS in a strict h2h matchup, that's largely irrelevant here. VF is in no way outclassed enough either physically or in skill that she could beat him quickly. Instead he is close enough in both to keep her at bay while he regains distance from which to blast her, which he is able to do.
Massive flaw in Deadeye vs Suicide King. You're trying to shoot to death a guy with a healing factor who gets routinely riddled with bullets. That's a bad concept.
Carbonadium stops superhuman healing factors. Remember when Bucky shot Daken? And that was only one bullet. As you said, SK will be riddled with powered-up carbonadium bullets. He won't heal any better than a normal person would from normal bullets, which is to say not enough to help.
Furthermore, you failed to divine the purpose of that character. He can teleport away from you, he can see through walls and he has a .50 cal Sniper Rifle that goes through concrete. Punisher's skills weren't chosen because hes the best fighter on the planet, they were chosen because hes a sensible guy that makes the best use of what he has available to them. He's going to blast your body in half when you don't know it's coming and you don't have anyone with any form of senses or tracking that can stop him from doing it.
What are these walls of which you speak? Where were these in the OP? If they weren't stated, why are you assuming that they are there? That's just poor debating. Just going off of what was stated in the OP, my scenario is totally plausible.
Also, you're right, I don't have any sensors. That's a bit of an oversight on my part. However, I do have two characters with vibranium armor, one with a healing factor, and one who can focus Chi to heal. I also have a character with a danger-sense and the best reflexes legally allowed in this thread, which he can use to save his teammates using his bullet-proof armored self. That's on top of the fact that the bullet will be slowed if it's going through something, and all my characters have bullet-dodging reflexes, anyway. And finally, although a .50 cal can go through walls, the accuracy is less than stellar after it does. Is it Cable's cybernetics that let him see through walls? I'm not completely sure what the cybernetics do. Anyway, Suicide King is a cool character concept, but he just doesn't have a place in this gauntlet.
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