Satele Shan vs Asajj Ventress

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Rules

  • The fight takes place on Kashyyyk.
  • No prep time.
  • Standard weapons.
  • Win by Death.
  • In character.
  • Start 15 ft. apart.
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Ventress.

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Satele. Ventress isn't as good as Maul, and overall Satele would win majority over Maul.

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And no, I don't agree with everything this guy says in his vids. But you get the gist of it.

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Ventress, superior duelist don't see satele getting a chance to use her TK which I would say is superior to ventress

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@reikai said:

Satele. Ventress isn't as good as Maul, and overall Satele would win majority over Maul.

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And no, I don't agree with everything this guy says in his vids. But you get the gist of it.

Satele has literally no speed to compare her to such a fast force-user as Maul. He beat, or fought on par with multiple characters who's speed feats are superior to those of Satele. And Maul is miles above her in terms of lightsaber skill and experience. In close combat, Satele is no match for him.

And Force? Yeah, i'd say her Force abilities are more impressive than those of Maul. But she is not powerful enough to use only her Force abilities to beat someone as Maul. And Maul's speed will make it very difficult for Satele to hit him with The Force. Plus, he is powerful enough to give her problems with his Force abilities.

There is no way she beats him in close combat, there is no way she can ragdoll him with TheForce, or do at least something close to that. And Maul will probably be too fast for her to hit him with The Force, or lightsaber.

Maul wrecks Satele.

And in this battle? Probably Ventress.

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Satele.

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Ventress takes it, Satele is a mediocre duelist and I really doubt her force abilities would give her more than a couple of rounds.

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@jedisupermaster: You can blab on about speed all you want, doesn't make it believable. Satele's not slow by any means and whatever speed advantage Maul might have, it'd only be by a slight degree and barely notable. Satele has greater experience and her Force Abilities completely outstrip Maul's.

Ventress isn't any better and I wouldn't even put her on the same standing as Maul in terms of melee prowess. She might even only be on par with Maul in Force abilities, and that's still far too low to compare against Satele.

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The posting of someone's youtube versus debate as the basis for your argument is absolutely laughable.

Ventress wins because she's a better duelist by something like two, maybe two and a half tiers. Sure, Satele has the advantage in Force power, but it's not like she actually uses it in duels to such an extent that she could claim a majority over someone who outstrips her as a duelist. And Ventress is durable enough to cope with being thrown around if and when it happens.

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The posting of someone's youtube versus debate as the basis for your argument is absolutely laughable.

Ventress wins because she's a better duelist by something like two, maybe two and a half tiers. Sure, Satele has the advantage in Force power, but it's not like she actually uses it in duels to such an extent that she could claim a majority over someone who outstrips her as a duelist. And Ventress is durable enough to cope with being thrown around if and when it happens.

Do you think Ventress can contend with Malgus, and win?

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@luckystrike: I think Malgus would take a slim majority over Ventress due to his strength, lightning and superior power. Ventress would do better than Satele could, though.

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@jedisupermaster: You can blab on about speed all you want, doesn't make it believable. Satele's not slow by any means and whatever speed advantage Maul might have, it'd only be by a slight degree and barely notable. Satele has greater experience and her Force Abilities completely outstrip Maul's.

Ventress isn't any better and I wouldn't even put her on the same standing as Maul in terms of melee prowess. She might even only be on par with Maul in Force abilities, and that's still far too low to compare against Satele.

Well, after i bring here his feats, it will be believable. But i think i will do it later i am too lazy. Anyway, his feats are superior to Sateles. And i mean - much superior. Satele wont be able to keep up with him. Her experience is not greater than Maul's. And she is not strong enough in The Force to ragdoll him or something. Plus, due to his speed, The Force wont help Satele.

Ventress is way faster and better in terms of lightsaber combat. She also beats Satele.

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Satele.

How?

Superior Force power---- if she uses that to it's to it's full potential, she can capture a majority.

Such Force powers as Force Push, or telekinesis in general, are ineffective against someone who is much faster. And other than that? Not realy strong. Not storng enough to put Maul down anyway.

Satele loses badly because she cant keep up with Maul. And she is nothing compare to Maul in terms of lightsaber combat.

Maul wrecks.

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Yeah... TOR threads are cancer too now apparently.

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#16  Edited By LuckyStrike

It's hard to compare duelists from different Eras, I do think we're underestimating the old GRANDMASTER of the order though, Ventress , while skilled is just a Sith pretender.

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@i_like_swords said:

Yeah... TOR threads are cancer too now apparently.

No that's just SW threads in general and don't try to pretend otherwise. Much as I love the TOR era, SW as a whole is just one shared needle away from being an epidemic requiring the CDC to come in and quarantine the whole thing.

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@jedisupermaster: I find it funny how you keep blabbing on about characters speeds, yet you've shown you know nothing about these characters speeds. Don't post on threads with Satele if you know nothing about her. rofl if you think Satele can't ragdoll maul......I dunno what to say.

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@reikai: I'm surprised to see you here.

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@reikai said:

@i_like_swords said:

Yeah... TOR threads are cancer too now apparently.

No that's just SW threads in general and don't try to pretend otherwise. Much as I love the TOR era, SW as a whole is just one shared needle away from being an epidemic requiring the CDC to come in and quarantine the whole thing.

Not really. Post-RotJ and pre-Republic threads are usually fine, along with non-Force User threads. It's mostly either Clone Wars/Movie era threads or TOR that are the worst. There's always going to be a schism between fans of the movie era and fans of the RPG game era.

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@mije_101: Well I'm well aware of the SWTOR/TOR Era. I've read the novelizations and played through all 8 class stories in SWTOR mutliple times. I've gone over the background information therein and I've watched near the entirety of the TCW series. I'm fully aware of the characters involved.

The only book I didn't read concerning the TOR era is "Red Harvest" and its for obvious reasons; Wasn't done by BioWare. 2nd reason: It uttered the word 'midichlorian'. So I hurled it against a wall and never touched it again.

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#22  Edited By GeorgeWBush

TOR in general is cancerous , almost as bad as the PT trilogy and TCW series

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Ventress gets stomped. A failed apprentice with minimal training is not competing with a Jedi Grandmaster.

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Satele can take this, as GM she is just too powerful for ventress

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Satele ragdolls.

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Ventress destroys Satele in every way

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Could go either way, it's a close fight but I give Satele slight edge due to superior force powers.