@mudamudamuda: If she was "moving fast or FTL" then she would be able to phase through the shields no problem according to the speeds required to pull that off.
How ?
@mudamudamuda: If she was "moving fast or FTL" then she would be able to phase through the shields no problem according to the speeds required to pull that off.
How ?
@kuroimugetsu: Yeah that Magneto. But we're also taking about Sasuke. The massively hypersonic, power absorbing, soul stealing, gravity manipulating, chidori wielding, continent busting, space teleporting, mind raping, sword displacing, limousine riding, jet flying, kiss stealing, wheeling dealing, son of a gun.
Who just can't seem to hold these alligators down...
Nature Boy says:
Wooooooo!!!!!!!
@mudamudamuda: The physics of what happens when an object with mass reaches lightspeed (assuming it doesn't immediately disintegrate)
Interesting one, Magneto reacted to beings equally fast to Sasuke, and they both have attacks that can end the fight as soon as it starts, so I will wait there and see the debate.
@mudamudamuda: The physics of what happens when an object with mass reaches lightspeed (assuming it doesn't immediately disintegrate)
Or we just go by the logical explanation of this being fiction which is why she wasn't wrecking the planet by moving FTL. Come to think of it, there is no reason to assume that she was even moving FTL. All we know is that she slammed into the force field which caused her to bleed and the reaction force to be pushed back a little, that implies that she was moving at a certain speed but who knows how fast.
Assumptions aside, do we have scans explaining how that teleportation works ? Or if it were legit teleprtation to begin with ?
@hulkage: u joking? Magneto can do most of what u said already. He can bust sasuke from the inside. Sasuke has no knowledge or way to avoid that. Chidori can't hurt mags. Nothing he does can.amaterasu deflected, chidori absorbed, gravity techs easily countered by electomagnatism , genjutsu nope! Mags helmet. His Shields Could Also Block enrrgy. Genjutsu works by sending chakra (energy) which would dicipate upon contact with his shield. Sasuke literally has no counters no chance. Susano gets thrown into warm hole or atomized. His shields are godly. various energy blasts etc. Also rips sasuke by exploding the iron in his blood gg lock
@mudamudamuda: No sasuke a teleportation isn't any different. He's moving from point A to B without having to traverse the space in between.
@ninjawarrior268: Before or after Genjutsu?
Electro-Magnetic Power:
Electro-Magnetic Control
Electro-Magnetic Shield
Iron Man's repuslors rays "have no hope of getting through his force field"
Durability and Psychic Resistance
Other Abilities
Awesomeness
@juzacloud: Are we just posting random feats because I can do the same for Sauce
@juzacloud: Are we just posting random feats because I can do the same for Sauce
Everything I posted shows that magneto stomps sasuke though. I know what sasuke can do. Sasuke has teleportation that is only useable in close combat range. Also sasuke sword is metal. Magneto takes it from him and kills him. gg
Too many ways for magneto to easily win
Chidori? magneto absorbs it
Chibaku tensei? magneto disperses it
Genjutsu? already showed you that
sasuke literally can't do anything in this fight. I posted the feats for everyone to see and look through. So no they aren't just random feats. This is a vs battle. The mere fact that you stated it like that already shows signs of saltiness.
Magneto stomps. Sasuke's not on the level to get past his shields or his mental defenses and has no defense against anything magnetism.
@kingh: mags still wins. He points and explodes sasuke from the inside via iron in his blood
@juzacloud: ok ... are we Don yet. The naruto wank is stupid
@juzacloud: Are we just posting random feats because I can do the same for Sauce
Everything I posted shows that magneto stomps sasuke though. I know what sasuke can do. Sasuke has teleportation that is only useable in close combat range. Also sasuke sword is metal. Magneto takes it from him and kills him. gg
Too many ways for magneto to easily win
Chidori? magneto absorbs it
Chibaku tensei? magneto disperses it
Genjutsu? already showed you that
sasuke literally can't do anything in this fight. I posted the feats for everyone to see and look through. So no they aren't just random feats. This is a vs battle. The mere fact that you stated it like that already shows signs of saltiness.
^^^^
All this. Sasuke is not matched well against Mags by power set actually. Mags also has the speed feats to react making it a sure thing for him.
@kuroimugetsu: @sirfizzwhizz: @juzacloud:
I'll gladly take you all on when I get to a computer. I'm tired of people throwing out the phrase "Naruto Wank" but can't present logical explanations or counters to the points I bring up so I hope you bring it.
@hulkage: I'm not debating a sure stomp with you. I've already proven my point. You went straight for genjutsu like all naruto fans do. That was countered.
I could have went straight for "iron in the blood" but swagneto doesn't have to do that. All you can do now is an empty attempt to lowball. Which I won't be a part of.
@hulkage: dude sasuke loses. This isn't even a debate. Sasuke literally has nothing to harm him. Amaterasu blown away. Chidori absorbed. Chibaku tensei dispursed shinra tensei simply tanked ... genjusu? Nope immune via helmet. Ps maybe? Nope his shields make Thor level attacks seem like a joke. He can moleculize sasuke. Instantaneously explode him from the iron blood technique, he can create worm holes. Controls the electro magnetic force. Various energy blasts etc... ummmm is there some special ability of sasukes that I'm missing?
@hulkage: I'm not debating a sure stomp with you. I've already proven my point. You went straight for genjutsu like all naruto fans do. That was countered.
I could have went straight for "iron in the blood" but swagneto doesn't have to do that. All you can do now is an empty attempt to lowball. Which I won't be a part of.
^ again all this.
@hulkage: I'm not debating a sure stomp with you. I've already proven my point. You went straight for genjutsu like all naruto fans do. That was countered.
I could have went straight for "iron in the blood" but swagneto doesn't have to do that. All you can do now is an empty attempt to lowball. Which I won't be a part of.
^ again all this.
Agreed.
@juzacloud: I promised a fight, so here it is...
First of all I'm not going to address your feat spamming because 99% of it is either irrelevant to this battle or not impressive enough to matter in the long run.
Now on to this:
I'm not debating a sure stomp with you. I've already proven my point. You went straight for genjutsu like all naruto fans do. That was countered.
I could have went straight for "iron in the blood" but swagneto doesn't have to do that. All you can do now is an empty attempt to lowball. Which I won't be a part of.
I did not go straight for genjutsu if you read the whole thread. I only said something about it because someone talked about manipulating the iron in his blood. And no you did not counter it because I already explained that his helmet defends against psionic energies, not ocular illusionary offensive techniques. His techniques work more like Mastermind's (an illusionary specialist ) than Jean Grey and Mastermind has plenty of feats against Magneto, Professor X, and even Emma Frost. So you have yet to provide a "counter" to Sasuke's genjutsu.
As it pertains to the manipulating the Iron in Sasuke's blood, the same argument that applies with characters like Dr. Manhattans atom manipulation and Superboy's TK applies here, prove he can do it against someone of Sasuke's speed, strength, and durability. It has never been his go to move in character and he has no feats of using it against people with durability above metahuman/mid tier opponents.
@hulkage: dude sasuke loses. This isn't even a debate. Sasuke literally has nothing to harm him. Amaterasu blown away. Chidori absorbed. Chibaku tensei dispursed shinra tensei simply tanked ... genjusu? Nope immune via helmet. Ps maybe? Nope his shields make Thor level attacks seem like a joke. He can moleculize sasuke. Instantaneously explode him from the iron blood technique, he can create worm holes. Controls the electro magnetic force. Various energy blasts etc... ummmm is there some special ability of sasukes that I'm missing?
dude sasuke loses. This isn't even a debate.
Well I'm debating it and several CREDIBLE (unfortunately you and Juzacloud don't fall in that category) debaters on this site think Sasuke can take it and other CREDIBLE debaters think he looses, that makes it debatable.
Sasuke literally has nothing to harm him.
I disagree.
Amaterasu blown away.
Impossible because Amaterasu isn't a projectile, it literally appears wherever he looks, meaning there's a pretty good chance it can bypass his shields. Plus all it takes is a glance from Sasuke because in character he is known to Amaterasu or Genjutsu spam at the very beginning of fights.
Chibaku tensei dispursed
This would work if this was Madara or Nagato, but Sasuke can make opponents the core of the Chibaku Tensei, which makes them a core with a gravity center strong enough to make continent level satellites. This means that Magneto, or his shields are now extremely dense and his mass would be increased exponentially.
shinra tensei simply tanked
With Shields up sure, I'll give you that, but anything that Magneto throws at him gets blown away by this technique
genjusu? Nope immune via helmet
I already addressed this with JuzaCloud, scroll up
Ps maybe? Nope his shields make Thor level attacks seem like a joke.
That's hilarious, no he does not make "Thor level attacks seem like a joke" just because his shields have held up against Thor before. By that logic, Iron Man and Captain America both have herald level durability because they have survived hits from Thor, and Spiderman does too because he has been punched through a wall by Hulk.
He can moleculize sasuke
Scans with context
Instantaneously explode him from the iron blood technique
Lol once again scroll up, and if (for arguments sake) you can provide scans of him exploding someone with Sasuke's durability then Sasuke has a limited precog, he simple predicts his movements and uses substitution jutsu, a genin level technique
he can create worm holes. Controls the electro magnetic force.
Oh really? Well I can create pancakes and control the television in my house. Now do you have something that pertains to this fight?
Various energy blasts etc...
That can all be absorbed
ummmm is there some special ability of sasukes that I'm missing?
Yes plenty of them, read the series or check his wiki
@hulkage: I'm not debating a sure stomp with you. I've already proven my point. You went straight for genjutsu like all naruto fans do. That was countered.
I could have went straight for "iron in the blood" but swagneto doesn't have to do that. All you can do now is an empty attempt to lowball. Which I won't be a part of.
^ again all this.
I take it you're still salty that me and @princearagorn1 tag teamed you on the Naruto vs Invincible thread.
Anyone else I miss because you all can come at me...I really don't mind.
@hulkage: no ... just no... u don't seem to understand what complete control over the electro magnetic force implies. It means he can manipulate various forms of energies. Including fire. Albeit it's fire that can't be extinguished, wait! Yes it can!. He can manipulate it at the fundamental level. U see magneto is just on another level. Any amaterasu can just be absorbed or blasted away just like nagato did. Get over it. Amaterasu failed to burn samurai in lol steel armor. Against magneto it just gets repelled. What is sasuke doing here exactly?
All of the matter in chibaku tensei gets blasted by mags or transported into a wormhole. gg. Sasuke gets teliport ed to space then dies, gg. Mags explodes him from the inside. U say u want proof of iron busting working on someone of sasukes durability? Umm he actually used it on a superhuman who had superhuman durability and strength. I can't remember his name though. Btw sasuke is human level durability. He relies on susano to tank attacks. Did u forget that? Iron bust = insta win. Or teliports to a black hole. Sasuke has no knowledge he won't know until it's too late.
Sasuke does what again? Absolutely nothing. All his techniques have counters. Name 1 that doesn't and I will leave this thread right now
I take it you're still salty that me and @princearagorn1 tag teamed you on the Naruto vs Invincible thread.
Same thread where many people fully felt Invincible win as well? Not Salty at all, the only people who said Naruto won were those that have a history of being bias for Naruto anyway. At least random people who never read Invincible looked at the feats and chose base on logic.
:) So its all good, like in here.
I take it you're still salty that me and @princearagorn1 tag teamed you on the Naruto vs Invincible thread.
Same thread where many people fully felt Invincible win as well? Not Salty at all, the only people who said Naruto won were those that have a history of being bias for Naruto anyway. At least random people who never read Invincible looked at the feats and chose base on logic.
:) So its all good, like in here.
lol, should someone who got banned for outright trolling the said fanbase be talking about history?
How is Sasuke technique not Spacetime. His shunshin blitzed Madara who had embarassed Minato The yellow flash. Who was stated to be as fast as a flash of light.(Light speed shunshin). His Rinnegan Teleportation is space/time. He Swaps himself with a different place instantly within a certain range. Displacing himself, objects and even other shinobi even multiple at a time. He can increase the range of self teleportation by swapping places with Objects. No time passes by moving with this technique.
@mudamudamuda: Yes but it is no different than regular teleportation, at least the mechanics of it aren't. True Teleportation is replacing the space of another area with your body. Only difference is Sasuke can do it to himself or other objects
Regular teleportation can be nothing more than high speed movement (Light speed, MFTL etc). Space-time manipulation works in by warping space and time which is why it's instant in the first place. The end result may be the same (switching places) by the way they work is very different.
Sasuke has never manipulated time, the author is an idiot, it's not Space-Time manipulation, he just manipulates space, no time is being manipulated. Space-Time Manipulation also means that you could move faster than light, the same thing that happened with Guy, Author wrote that he warped space-time meaning he had to go light speed, that's just him not finishing elementary school physics.
For example Tobi wasn't even manipulating Space-Time Continuum, all he was doing was traveling between dimensions.
And yet none of thast changes the fact Naruto fans are terrible bias. Beating Wonder Woman? Magneto? Invincible? Iceman? Grandmaster Luke? Hulk? Even some think Superman? Thank God people on this site woke up and took notice how bad the wank gotten these days. Whats really funny is certain Naruto fans that caused problems been ban for their over the top wanking and insults, like Nyas. Thats funny too.
@hulkage: Just as I thought you respond with a long fail post. Showing that you didn't look through the feats posted. Yet you insist on wasting people time with this? Before I start I would to say...... Sasuke has a metal zipper on his jacket...............
Sasuke teleportating a knife in his heart? lol
http://media.animevice.com/uploads/2/22285/412831-nagnetoice_super.jpg - Just a random good feat of how fast Magneto can think of a solution to something and counter.
- Emma Frost>>>>>>> Genjutsu. I even made a Emma vs sasuke battle and it got locked. Completely shields himself from Emma Frost and any form of attack while in meditation.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/9/96764/1709945-fatal_attractions_pt_3___uncanny_x_men_304_31.jpg - Able to jam Jean's psychic abilities and prevent her from detecting his forces.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i126/rayniermark/TheUncannyX-Men112-28.jpg - To expand upon his feat of blocking Jean's blasts, here's him actually taking her down with a "bottle-effect". And then making Wolverine punch himself out because why not.
- Iron in the blood against Hercules who is superior to sasuke. Heck, sasuke severely wounded his whole molecular body with his own lightning against deidara lol. and those were small weak jolts lol. Sasuke absorbing what again?
Dropping Hercules through a roof using his blood.
Stopping people from moving using the iron in their blood.
Catches speedster Northstar and Magneto remarks how Northstar isn't even as fast as his son.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/112962/2446166-magnetomarvelconsciousness.jpg - Magneto's consciousness can track somebody moving at the speed of light.
-Amaterasu? magneto always has his shields up in fight. Show amaterasu going through barriers. He doesn't go straight to amaterasu anyway. Not against the samurai, not against raikage, not against madara, not against kabuto.
-Chibaku tensei blows away anything magneto throws at him and he can make him the core? LMAO! magneto can willingly make himself the core with his own power lol Chibaku tensei core was easily destroyed by naruto lol
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/9/96764/1709890-wormhole.jpg - Reversing gravity
Manipulates the entire planet's electro magnetic spectrum
Counts and then turns 2 million nedoymium high grade magnetics against Iron Man
Acts as a surrogate nervous system for a Celestial holding it together. 1, 2, 3.
-He does easily tank thor level attacks and more (shielded). Also can tank colossus attacks unshielded.
His shield holds against the phoenix's attack and resisting her attack again. He is doing this after fighting with most of the other x-men.
Trading blows with Colossus and taking a punch from Colossus that would have torn another man's head off
Is there any reason to post any more Magneto feats? its ridiculous. Oh, I'm not a real debator? lol accorded to who? the same 5 naruto fans?
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/9/96764/1709853-0000t61b.jpg - Kills everything with a nervous system within a kilometer.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/7604/1046981-mags1.jpg - Another feat of him toying with a mind.
Other Iron Blood scans /u/akkahwoop
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/35308/1920409-x_men_legacy_241_0013.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/20066/1154971-1087845_magnetorex003p13xt9_super.png
Check out my previous post. Funny thing is I still have a few more unused magneto feats that aren't even needed. But these handful of naruto fans will never concede because its a personal thing over debating. The guy said he can make magneto the gravity core LMAO! now think about that for a moment
@juzacloud: thank you man. The narutard wank was getting out of hand
@juzacloud: it will only get worse. If u think its bad here, go try narutoforums. How dare someone not agree that raikage is city level dc, or mei, for that matter, or that naruto and sasuke are planet level
@hulkage: "Well I'm debating it and several CREDIBLE (unfortunately you and Juzacloud don't fall in that category) debaters on this site think Sasuke can take it and other CREDIBLE debaters think he looses, that makes it debatable."
I'm in overkill mode this morning. Now people should view this topic and see how unreliable your debating skills are. Not only that, but your fanboyism for naruto which taints your debating skills.
Sensing objects and attacks he cannot see. (X-Men Vol. 2 #2)
Manipulating Nightcrawler’s Teleports (Uncanny X-Men Annual #10)
Sasuke has perfect susanoo? which is comprised of chakra/energy?
And yet none of thast changes the fact Naruto fans are terrible bias.
lol, considering you have been officially banned for trolling the said fans, the purely generalizing statement looks ironic.
Are they the biased ones, or are you the one biased against them?
Beating Wonder Woman? Magneto? Invincible? Iceman? Grandmaster Luke? Hulk? Even some think Superman?
you want people he has quite definitely beaten? Invincible or thragg, yusuke and anyone from the series, new 52 Wonder woman, Iron man, Canon jedi/sith, Godzilla, Every single character from hellsing - because he actually has the feats and means to win those, despite your desperate attempts to think otherwise.
Thank God people on this site woke up and took notice how bad the wank gotten these days.
Look, someone who hasn't read the series is saying it is wanked. What an informed opinion.
Whats really funny is certain Naruto fans that caused problems been ban for their over the top wanking and insults, like Nyas.
No, the funny part is you're tried to troll the fanbase, got banned, then tried debating, got owned, and still looking to make up for it somehow - by joining with the people who throw in 'zomg narutard wankerrzz' in half their posts on the relevant threads.
Also: nyas isn't banned - you can check his profile, you can't post on the wall if he's banned. Want a solid example? Take your old account:
http://www.comicvine.com/profile/indiecomicsftw/
and tally with the still-working one: http://www.comicvine.com/profile/nyas/
ftr, he left to focus on the university studies, sent a PM to several people before he left.
Thats funny too.
Hilarious.
Ironic part is you're replying to the thread, and saying nothing about the fact that most of the scans copy-pasted from reddit are pre-avx magneto.
Ironic part is you're replying to the thread, and saying nothing about the fact that most of the scans copy-pasted from reddit are pre-avx magneto.
Who do you think wins?
Dropping Hercules through a roof using his blood.
Ironic part is you're replying to the thread, and saying nothing about the fact that most of the scans copy-pasted from reddit are pre-avx magneto.
Who do you think wins?
OP doesn't state which magneto. So we are left to go with all magneto feats. It still wouldn't matter anyway.
Ironic part is you're replying to the thread, and saying nothing about the fact that most of the scans copy-pasted from reddit are pre-avx magneto.
Who do you think wins?
Magneto at his peak has some very impressive showings, current magneto however doesn't seem to be on the same level as sasuke. I'll try to make a more detailed post if I get some free time, also need to catch up on a few series, and too many discussions going on right now.
Dropping Hercules through a roof using his blood.
I see, but what are Hercules durability feats.
Ironic part is you're replying to the thread, and saying nothing about the fact that most of the scans copy-pasted from reddit are pre-avx magneto.
Who do you think wins?
OP doesn't state which magneto. So we are left to go with all magneto feats. It still wouldn't matter anyway.
We're left with current Magneto's feats because we go by current versions, current Magneto is weaker post AVX I believe
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