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@hulkage: Same scenario as Invincible. Battle beast is stronger, tougher, faster, and has more battle experience.

Sasuke has mind rape, and teleporting weapons into him, and soul rip.

So both can take the other down, just pick who you like more.

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Sasuke has more bang for the buck.

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Battle Beast stomps unless he gets tagged by Genjutsu.

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Battle Beast stomps unless he gets tagged by Genjutsu.

Thats how I feel.

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@hulkage: Same scenario as Invincible. Battle beast is stronger, tougher, faster, and has more battle experience.

Sasuke has mind rape, and teleporting weapons into him, and soul rip.

So both can take the other down, just pick who you like more.

Faster based on?

Battle Beast stomps unless he gets tagged by Genjutsu.

What are his feats?

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@hulkage: He's overpowered Invincible convincingly IIRC and currently he's stalemating Thragg who's the most powerful Viltrumite. Invincible alone is far too strong for Sasuke to fight without Genjutsu so Battle Beast should wreck him.

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@hulkage: He's overpowered Invincible convincingly IIRC and currently he's stalemating Thragg who's the most powerful Viltrumite. Invincible alone is far too strong for Sasuke to fight without Genjutsu so Battle Beast should wreck him.

He looks interesting, some speed feats from him? In the last time that I've seen a thread with him people were saying that Ares (From Marvel) would easily drop him.

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@hulkage: Battle Beast does not have many feats. What he has shows though he is SUPERIOR to Invincible and Omni Man.

Here is his WHOLE Feat list lol. Yes this is really all there is for him.

Battle Beast feats are beating down Invincible, and some Guardians of the Globe easily before the Viltrumite War.

Then BB beats to death a Viltrumite during Nolans escape with Allen from prison.

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BB then took down several Viltrumites in the Viltrumite War at once.

Now before I go on, major spoliers to Invincible here.

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BB saves Thragg of all people by chopping to hell the Ragnar. Ragnar are the only species equal to Viltrumites in durability and strength. Yet here his weapons cut these beings down like nothing.

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Then the same weapon cuts Battle Beast who has the same sub atomic level durability easy.

Now as seen here is BB with a major wound facing Thragg, the most powerful Viltrumite in the universe with a stomach wound. Even field.

Battle Beast fought Thragg with serious wounds, no weapons, and did this evenly. You can also see BB teeth and claws penetrating Thraggs insane sub atomic durability. Now your looking at the scans and thinking meh.... well what makes this more impressive?

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BB snd Thragg fought this way at super speeds across the planet for over a the course of days! Non stop!

So why does BB compare? He is even, equals with Thragg, the strongest Viltrumite in the universe. Thragg beats Invincible and Omni man like step children. considering BB takes out scores of Viltrumites at a time, its not surprising.

So yes, BB can very well tank just about anything Sasuke throws at him, or Speed blitz. He could get through his defenses with his weapons feats. The problem is he has no defense to soul or mind rape at all.

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@sirfizzwhizz: Haha, I'll just delete mine since yours looks nicer.

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@sirfizzwhizz: What are his Speed feats? And even then I have a hard time believing he could tag Sasuke considering he is one of the top five h2h specialist in his verse

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@sirfizzwhizz: What are his Speed feats? And even then I have a hard time believing he could tag Sasuke considering he is one of the top five h2h specialist in his verse

Thats it? Battle Beast is over thousand years old hunting and fighting in honor battles the toughest beings in the universe. Then fought Thragg who was train from birth to be the greatest Viltrumite in combat, strategic ability, and stats.

I question Sasuke skill in comparison, but ok. Onto speed feats.

Speed feats of Viltrumites in general.

Quotes of Viltrumites able to go massively FTL. They are able to as stated do this near instant. In turn they are affected by time dilation by doing so granting the reaction and such that comes with that speed. Last scan states specifically there bodies attain these speeds near instant.

1) A Viltrumite leaves a light trail behind him as he blitzes Allen, and reacts to his surrondings at this speed by quickly navigating Allen where he wants after targeting Allen at said speed.

2) 3 Viltrumites leaving light trails as they wreck a city, and at those speeds are actively looking for Omni Man showing reaction time at said speeds.

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Invincible and his Father travel around the world so fast, that his father in a second was able to see, assess, and find the problem in the middle east, and fetch Mark, bring him there before the Hot Dog falls.

Omni Man blitzing the Guardians. Notice Red Rush who is so fast that he can save people, fight villains across the city of Moscow, and hold a conversation with his girlfriend who NEVER SAW HIM MOVING AT ALL! Red rush has proven Combat speeds and reaction speed. Omni Man casually blitz him and the rest, showing insane combat speed.

Omni Man with a few punches, and throws keeps up casually with his son as they battle from Chicago, into the ocean, and then into the Artic all in a few panels. Great combat and reaction speed on Omni Man's part to keep track and catch up to attack again.

Omni Man blitzes a foe after having to actively find them at high speeds flying around the world. Insane reaction time that goes hand in hand with his speed.

Omni Man fights the Supreme who also shows light speed and faster combat/reaction time. Omni Man keeps up easy and they battle across the country side in a few panels of this fight. Omni man has many feats of light speed attacks, reaction, and massively FTL speeds while navigating where he is going at such speeds.

Invincible's speed feats.

Invincible and Omni Man playing baseball by throwing it at high speeds around the world, and Invincible forgets about it, remembers, and catches it even though it is tiny and traveling at insane speeds to get around the world.

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Mark moves so fast to travel from the Mall to his House to get a stack of comics. Why is this good? He moved so fast, it seem he never moved at all. He had to navigate his way out of the Mall, through the house, find his stack of comics, make it to the mall while navigating the inside of the mall all in a split second. To move at that speed and around a complex environment is reaction time.

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Mark in a few panels packs up all his things and moves them into a new room across the city. Showing more reaction and navigational ability at speeds so fast, that his friend held a conversation with him on the phone.

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Invincible speed blitzes Reanimen in a curving arc, actively targeting them all in a speed blitz. Reaction time.

Mark moves so fast, that he is able to switch clothes with his evil Doppler, and shave his head in the time it takes another Viltrumite to walk through a door. Showing speed and the ability to think at those speeds.

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Mark clearly states when he holds back, he is slower. This is why slower people are not blitzed, because as stated Invincible holds back, which makes him slower.

In his fight with Conquest, we see Mark and the Viltumite throw punches and fight faster than world sattilite network could follow, each being seven minuets behind. Instant telpeortation stated by Cecil was no good cause they moved to fast to be there. The only time the duo was seen was when Mak stopped moving for a bit as Oliver stated in scan 4 here.

More of Conquest and Mark moving at speeds far faster than Kid Omni Man could take a breath of air. Battling from earth surface to space and back again all the while throwing punches.

Mark here tries to out fly his faster evil self. Yet at these speeds the evil self can react and was actively seen and targeted by another evil self who blitzed him, even though they were flying at full speeds! Excellent reaction time.

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Mark is being held back by the strength of the Sequids, untill he stops holding back, and easily speed blitzes the guys head off.

Mark beating on Dinosaurus, and curves his bull rush to drag the foe where he wants, more reaction feats with his bull rush speeds.

Mark and Omni man travel from one planet in another Solar System to the capital planet in the same time a few hour battle took place. They not only arrive but blitz the other Viltrumites upon arrival, meaning they located their targets that are human size shape on a single city built planet at their high speeds.

Invincible here along with other Viltrumites not only keep pace with a laser to Lightspeed hit a planet, but they react to each other like Omni Man grabbing Mark so they are matched up. And the two smiling at eachother. After hitting the planet and still flying at those speeds, other Viltrumites react to them and attack them while they are still moving at that speed and the planet still blowing up. All showings of the ability to react, think, and make a combat move at light speeds!

Now onto Thragg own speed.

Thragg easily catches the blitz attack of Oliver and ends him.

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Thragg blitzes Thadeus who had no chance to react. Both Allen the Alien and Omni Man were blitzed in this, unable to stop it.

Thragg manages to move faster than both Invincible could run away, and reacted faster than Omni Man bull rush attack. Omni Man who already has insane speeds could not stop in time.

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Then here we see Thragg and Battle Beast move faster across the planet than Space Rider could hope to intercept. Space Rider who matches Omni man speed.

I showed all this before, but here it is again.

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@sirfizzwhizz: See the differences between then Id that Sasuke can casually take armies with just h2h, copies Rock Lee's taijutsu style (the second best H2H specialist who has been pitted against Karate Kid), keep up with Kakashi while blind, etc.

I'll post some videos in a second

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#19  Edited By ComicStooge

Battle Beast goes to sleep via genjutsu.

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#21  Edited By sirfizzwhizz

@hulkage said:

@sirfizzwhizz: See the differences between then Id that Sasuke can casually take armies with just h2h, copies Rock Lee's taijutsu style (the second best H2H specialist who has been pitted against Karate Kid), keep up with Kakashi while blind, etc.

I'll post some videos in a second

Lee abilities are copied due to special powers of the sharigan Sasuke has. Not raw skill. Keep up with kakashi blind means what?

Your can learn something, all that matters is how successful you are at your at it, and how much experience you have. Thats BB. BB takes on beings that would crush Sasuke in the dozens, and fights the top fighters of the galaxy. Taken down galactic empires with star ship level star traveling tech. With his hands.

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The guy who matches Thragg.

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Im not seeing it.

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As for the Bio on Battle Beast. Master of all forms of fighting, and weapon uses in the known Universe.

Battle Beast > Sasuke by a mile in skill. Period.

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Sasuke can win via genjutsu or any other mode of advanced jutsu, but Battle Beast appears to be the more skilled H2H combatant.
I'd back Uchiha for now.

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The end of Naruto was so bad i skipped it so i dont know what kind of hax Sasuke could pull of to win.

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@sirfizzwhizz:

Since a very young age Sasuke was considered a prodigy in h2h prowess.

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And yes he used his sharingan to copy lee but all it did was amp his own skill permanently

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Post time skip he was able to take on armies without fully unsheathing his sword and spilling a single drop of blood.

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And not to mention how his sharingan body reading precog works.

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That matched with his EoS combat speed and teleportation means that Battle Beast will likely be overwhelmed.

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#25  Edited By UltimateInferno

Battle Beast stomps unless he gets tagged by Genjutsu.

*cough* (every single Naruto battle thread) *cough*

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#26  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

Sasuke's versatility alone is more than enough to win this really.

@highaccuser said:

@hulkage: He's overpowered Invincible convincingly IIRC and currently he's stalemating Thragg who's the most powerful Viltrumite. Invincible alone is far too strong for Sasuke to fight without Genjutsu so Battle Beast should wreck him.

Thragg killed BB in the recent issue. Stalemating thragg is not enough to beat sasuke to begin with anyway - mind attacks or not.

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#27  Edited By sirfizzwhizz

@hulkage:

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As for the Bio on Battle Beast. Master of all forms of fighting, and weapon uses in the known Universe.

@highaccuser: Also i would not respond. Prince is terrible when it comes to his underrating of Invincible verse :/ He would put Iron Man above them lol. sad.

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Sasuke's versatility alone is more than enough to win this really.

@highaccuser said:

@hulkage: He's overpowered Invincible convincingly IIRC and currently he's stalemating Thragg who's the most powerful Viltrumite. Invincible alone is far too strong for Sasuke to fight without Genjutsu so Battle Beast should wreck him.

Thragg killed BB in the recent issue. Stalemating thragg is not enough to beat sasuke to begin with anyway - mind attacks or not.

Not really. Sasuke is weaker than Thragg by a very large margin and wouldn't be able to hurt him with the vast majority of his attacks.

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@highaccuser: regardless of him saying he is a fan, Prince rather believe in the inconsistent wank of Naruto feats over the on panel and backed by statements feats of Invincible. Prince thinks they are iron Man level at best.

Your not going to have a eventful argument with him.

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Battle beast in a massacre.

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#31  Edited By Navajaz

Battle Beast.

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Battle Beast. He's going to bite through Sasuke's skull.

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@highaccuser: regardless of him saying he is a fan, Prince rather believe in the inconsistent wank of Naruto feats over the on panel and backed by statements feats of Invincible.

Careful now, remember the last time you let your Naruto hate-on get the better of you?

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@comicstooge: nothing about hate on my side when others try to put Kryptonian characters on Iron Man level. I even stated Sasuke can win via mind rape or soul rip. In this match the winner is simply who you like better. No "hate" on my side mate.

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@comicstooge: nothing about hate on my side when others try to put Kryptonian characters on Iron Man level. I even stated Sasuke can win via mind rape or soul rip. In this match the winner is simply who you like better. No "hate" on my side mate.

I know, I was just teasing. In any case, I don't think BB is Superman tier.

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#38  Edited By sirfizzwhizz

@comicstooge said:
@sirfizzwhizz said:

@comicstooge: nothing about hate on my side when others try to put Kryptonian characters on Iron Man level. I even stated Sasuke can win via mind rape or soul rip. In this match the winner is simply who you like better. No "hate" on my side mate.

I know, I was just teasing. In any case, I don't think BB is Superman tier.

He sure is. He casually beat Mark up, other Viltrumites, and matched Thragg. Even Nolan already stalemated older and more powerful version of Supreme who is better than New 52 Supes. Considering what they can do by feats and have by statements they are in deed Super man tier, and I showed why above. They are not as strong as say New 52 but pre 52? Oh yeah.

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They are not as strong as say New 52 but pre 52? Oh yeah.

Which is ironic because New 52 Supes is inferior to his past incarnations.

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@comicstooge said:
@sirfizzwhizz said:

@comicstooge: nothing about hate on my side when others try to put Kryptonian characters on Iron Man level. I even stated Sasuke can win via mind rape or soul rip. In this match the winner is simply who you like better. No "hate" on my side mate.

I know, I was just teasing. In any case, I don't think BB is Superman tier.

He sure is. He casually beat Mark up, other Viltrumites, and matched Thragg. Even Nolan already stalemated older and more powerful version of Supreme who is better than New 52 Supes. Considering what they can do by feats and have by statements they are in deed Super man tier, and I showed why above. They are not as strong as say New 52 but pre 52? Oh yeah.

Because no Vultrumite can move planets like Clark can. His versatility, combat speed and strength are above any of theirs by some margin.

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@sirfizzwhizz: Only thing New 52 has over Clark is lifting strength..... Maybe.

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#42  Edited By sirfizzwhizz

@comicstooge said:
@sirfizzwhizz said:
@comicstooge said:
@sirfizzwhizz said:

@comicstooge: nothing about hate on my side when others try to put Kryptonian characters on Iron Man level. I even stated Sasuke can win via mind rape or soul rip. In this match the winner is simply who you like better. No "hate" on my side mate.

I know, I was just teasing. In any case, I don't think BB is Superman tier.

He sure is. He casually beat Mark up, other Viltrumites, and matched Thragg. Even Nolan already stalemated older and more powerful version of Supreme who is better than New 52 Supes. Considering what they can do by feats and have by statements they are in deed Super man tier, and I showed why above. They are not as strong as say New 52 but pre 52? Oh yeah.

Because no Vultrumite can move planets like Clark can. His versatility, combat speed and strength are above any of theirs by some margin.

Post crisis/Pre 52 Supes NEVER moved planets on his own, and with help he did not do it that well either lol. He also only ever busted moons, two to be exact, and was KOed in the process.

Please....

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@sirfizzwhizz said:

They are not as strong as say New 52 but pre 52? Oh yeah.

Which is ironic because New 52 Supes is inferior to his past incarnations.

LOL no. new 52 has far greater durability and strength. His strength allowed him to bench the earth non stop with no sunlight for days, and damage a planet 4 times larger than earth. Get out here with that lol.

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@sirfizzwhizz: Only thing New 52 has over Clark is lifting strength..... Maybe.

Its not a maybe. You guy are delirious lol.

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#43  Edited By ComicStooge

@sirfizzwhizz: What durability feats does New 52 Clark to put him above his pre-reboot self?

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@sirfizzwhizz: What durability feats does New 52 Clark to put him above his pre-reboot self?

Made a thread for this talk, Post there, and lets not derail this one.

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LOL no. new 52 has far greater durability and strength. His strength allowed him to bench the earth non stop with no sunlight for days, and damage a planet 4 times larger than earth. Get out here with that lol.

Only he doesn't. Pre-52 Superman can lift twice the size of the Earth with one hand. You believe whatever you want to believe.

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@sirfizzwhizz said:

LOL no. new 52 has far greater durability and strength. His strength allowed him to bench the earth non stop with no sunlight for days, and damage a planet 4 times larger than earth. Get out here with that lol.

Only he doesn't. Pre-52 Superman can lift twice the size of the Earth with one hand. You believe whatever you want to believe.

I disagree. There is another thread for this anyway.

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@wollfmyth209: How hard does BB hit? I have yet to see a feat from an Invincible character that even shows continent busting striking power. Don't bring up the planet feat; it took 3 Viltrumites slamming into an already unstable planet (otherwise they would've died on impact) at FTL speeds to shatter it.

Also, combat speed fears would be nice as well.

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@etheral_dreams:

BB did manage to fight evenly with Thragg, a foe physically superior to Sasuke in more ways than one, tbh.

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@wollfmyth209: How hard does BB hit? I have yet to see a feat from an Invincible character that even shows continent busting striking power. Don't bring up the planet feat; it took 3 Viltrumites slamming into an already unstable planet (otherwise they would've died on impact) at FTL speeds to shatter it.

Also, combat speed fears would be nice as well.

What does continent busting striking power have to do with anything?

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@etheral_dreams said:

@wollfmyth209: How hard does BB hit? I have yet to see a feat from an Invincible character that even shows continent busting striking power. Don't bring up the planet feat; it took 3 Viltrumites slamming into an already unstable planet (otherwise they would've died on impact) at FTL speeds to shatter it.

Also, combat speed fears would be nice as well.

What does continent busting striking power have to do with anything?

To show that he has the power to at least hurt base Sasuke.

Naruto in BSM is already moon level+ in striking power.

@etheral_dreams:

BB did manage to fight evenly with Thragg, a foe physically superior to Sasuke in more ways than one, tbh.

Based off of what? I've yet to see feats that show superior striking power and definite lightspeed combat feats?