Saruman's Army vs. 300 Spartans

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Where does this battle take place?

Saruman's army is a bit bigger... I think in the 2nd movie they say something like 10,000 Uruk-Hai

"Lunacyde said:

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Where does this battle take place?

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good question

idk

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Saruman's army would win

Spartans get CRUSHED. The only reason the humans survive the onslaught of the Uruk-hai is because they had Helm's Deep and cavalry. Neither of which the Spartans have. Also, the humans in LoTR had a freakin' wizard.

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Where does this battle take place?

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The location doesn't matter. Saruman's army was comprised of tens of thousands of Uruk-hai. 300 humans of any variety stand absolutely no chance whatsoever.

Hahahahaahhahaahahahahahaha your joking right?  Uruk-hai are on a whole nother tech level compared to the Spartans, they are eons ahead of them in technology, magic, numbers, and individual strength.  One berserker could chew through 50 of the spartans before dieing.   And the crossbowmen would probably just pick off leondias before he can give a single command.

why bother with an army? saruman could solo all of them.

mm now if the fight was in a narrow area like in the movie three hundred. then the army as no chance. but if on an open feild. Bye bye spartans.

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The big S.

what about saruman's army invading Sparta?

I think the spartan will lose, but not before offering the Uruk-Haï a very rough time.

The Uruk-Haï are very powerful, that's true, but in the battle of Helm's deep, they were fighting common soldier, but also Oldmen and very young men, green troop alongside with elves soldier who are good but not that good. You need to remember that. The 300 hundred had fight people with more advanced technology, and I don't think they will fall on the tricks of Saruman explosive, after all, they don't when they were fighting the Xerxes "sorcerer".
Beside of that, each Spartan is not the average spartan, but the warriors Elite, the crack troop, and they have kicked the immortal and some monster by themselve. The aids of the other Greek just spared them more losses.

 In an open ground, I think the spartan will surely lose, they will be flanked, and even at higly cost, they will just die. In a place like the Helm's deep or the Hot Gate, they could eventually win, cause the Uruk-haï are proved themselve attainable in their moral when they run for the Battlefield when they see all is lost in the Two Tower. But frankly, it's more likely that the spartan died every one of them, and take maybe 6, or seven thousand of Orcs with them. (Losses include heavily wounded.). I will say the spartan losing Four against One.



 

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I think the spartan will lose, but not before offering the Uruk-Haï a very rough time.

The Uruk-Haï are very powerful, that's true, but in the battle of Helm's deep, they were fighting common soldier, but also Oldmen and very young men, green troop alongside with elves soldier who are good but not that good. You need to remember that. The 300 hundred had fight people with more advanced technology, and I don't think they will fall on the tricks of Saruman explosive, after all, they don't when they were fighting the Xerxes "sorcerer".
Beside of that, each Spartan is not the average spartan, but the warriors Elite, the crack troop, and they have kicked the immortal and some monster by themselve. The aids of the other Greek just spared them more losses.

 In an open ground, I think the spartan will surely lose, they will be flanked, and even at higly cost, they will just die. In a place like the Helm's deep or the Hot Gate, they could eventually win, cause the Uruk-haï are proved themselve attainable in their moral when they run for the Battlefield when they see all is lost in the Two Tower. But frankly, it's more likely that the spartan died every one of them, and take maybe 6, or seven thousand of Orcs with them. (Losses include heavily wounded.). I will say the spartan losing Four against One.



 

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Aragorn was no ordinary man. He was 87 at the time of the Battle of Helm's Deep, remember. The elves were also not at Helm's Deep in the books, but an elf would tool on any human, regardless of whether it's an elite Spartan warrior or not. Again, the humans owed their victory to calvary as much as anything. The Spartans do not have calvary. They are screwed. Even in a place like the Hot Gates, they would be quickly overwhelmed by superior strength in numbers, armor, and weaponry.

The only reason the Uruk - Hai ended up losing was the 2,000 man Cavalry, and this is no ordinary Cavalry either it was the Riders Of Rohan....the very best of the best when it comes to mounted warfare. Not to mention the Huorns.

"The only reason the Uruk - Hai ended up losing was the 2,000 man Cavalry, and this is no ordinary Cavalry either it was the Riders Of Rohan....the very best of the best when it comes to mounted warfare. Not to mention the Huorns."

The uruk-hai crossbow men would kill Leondias, and the spartans go into disarray as their commander is killed, and as Saruman can control weather, he could further screw everything up for the spartans, and then the pikemen are killed, to allow the Wargs to trample all the spartans.  

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Unlike the petty Persian bows the Uruk -Hai bows would puncture and penetrate the shields. Uruk Hai do not feel pain of fear and those are two things that The Spartans used against the Persians. Besides, despite them being slain by Aragorn, Gimli, Legolas, and the elves (all of which would be a match for any single Spartan) the Uruk-Hai are still very powerful and efficient soldiers. Remember they had a huge tactical disadvantage at Helms Deep, the place was nearly impeneatrable.

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"Wing Ultimate said:

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No, there's more than 300 Uruk-Hai. There's 300 Spartans. So your answer should read more like "10,000"."

"On a One on One basis the Uruk could stomp the Spartans easily, they are vastly stronger, faster, more vicious, more well trained, and led."

"Dreadnaught said:

"On a One on One basis the Uruk could stomp the Spartans easily, they are vastly stronger, faster, more vicious, more well trained, and led."

I was poking fun at him for choosing the Spartans. The idea being that he is implying 300 Uruk-Hai would get the job done."

Saruman. Curbstomp.

"The only reason the Uruk - Hai ended up losing was the 2,000 man Cavalry, and this is no ordinary Cavalry either it was the Riders Of Rohan....the very best of the best when it comes to mounted warfare. Not to mention the Huorns."

I dont think uruk are better trained than spartans.....I doubt that....and what tech advantage do the uruk have? they have shield arrows and swords and spears nothing the spartans dont have nor seen? its not like they 9mm

also Aragon was very much a normanl man! aside from have an extended life span and experience and maybe the best sword on the planet he has no enhanced strength nor speed nor powers of any kinda.

"I dont think uruk are better trained than spartans.....I doubt that....and what tech advantage do the uruk have? they have shield arrows and swords and spears nothing the spartans dont have nor seen? its not like they 9mm

also Aragon was very much a normanl man! aside from have an extended life span and experience and maybe the best sword on the planet he has no enhanced strength nor speed nor powers of any kinda."

Saruman's Army curbstomp way more soldiers Uruk-hai are stronger and better tech.

300 humans vs 10,000 monsters? that's over 33 - 1. I'm not sure who wins. Uruk-hai stronger than normal humans but so are the spartans. Overall I'd say Saruman's army.

" @Son_of_Magnus said:

"Saruman's Army curbstomp way more soldiers Uruk-hai are stronger and better tech. "

better tech yes, but more intelligent in using that tech? spartans were absolute masters of their spears and sheilds. they will find a way, use the land they fight on, pick a strategic point and at least put up a fight. "

Spartans for the most epic fight EVER!!!

 
Uruk-hai easy.

300 die.
there are fighting in the open with no tunnel for the uruk hai to squeeze into before the 300 to strike.

Please. The only reason the Spartans survived at Thermopylae as much as they did was because they were in a choke point, where number mean nothing. In any other place, they wouldn't stand a chance against the Persians, not to mention 10000 freaking Uruk-Hai.

" Please. The only reason the Spartans survived at Thermopylae as much as they did was because they were in a choke point, where number mean nothing. In any other place, they wouldn't stand a chance against the Persians, not to mention 10000 freaking Uruk-Hai. "

" @AtPhantom said:

" Please. The only reason the Spartans survived at Thermopylae as much as they did was because they were in a choke point, where number mean nothing. In any other place, they wouldn't stand a chance against the Persians, not to mention 10000 freaking Uruk-Hai. "

Uruk-Hai are beasts. Sarumans army had 10,000 Uruk-Hai....Spartans don't stand a chance. "

I'm having trouble grasping why this thread was even revisited when the answer is so blatantly obvious.
 
Maybe a similar number of Uruk-Hai are killed as they kill Spartans, but that still leaves 9,000  to march over the broken corpses of the Spartan men. And this example is wholly decided giving every possible advantage to the Spartans.
 
Uruk-Hai stomp.

" I'm having trouble grasping why this thread was even revisited when the answer is so blatantly obvious.  Maybe a similar number of Uruk-Hai are killed as they kill Spartans, but that still leaves 9,000  to march over the broken corpses of the Spartan men. And this example is wholly decided giving every possible advantage to the Spartans.  Uruk-Hai stomp. "

yes, unles the 300 have a place to give them the advantage. like between rocks so that the uruk hai have to squeeze into first.