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#1 Edited by ferventking (259 posts) - - Show Bio

Sandman has his Helm, Ruby and bag of sand.

Morals off. Fight to death or KO. Fight takes place in hell.

Edit: I don't mean the Spiderman villain guys...

Edit via Mercy - STOP FLAGGING THIS BATTLE.

#2 Posted by spawn_123 (1693 posts) - - Show Bio

Galactus wins

#3 Posted by KMART4455 (1290 posts) - - Show Bio

Come on.........................................................................................

Flagged.

@ferventking: Welcome to Comic Vine.

Please read up on your characters before posting..

This is one of the worst mismatches ever...

#4 Posted by KRGL (47 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow, major spite.

#5 Posted by Phylos (2641 posts) - - Show Bio

Galactus finds a new sandbox to play in.

#6 Posted by Ms. Omega (4403 posts) - - Show Bio

wtf?

#7 Posted by henryarguelles5 (366 posts) - - Show Bio

Why spite? Galactus was recently turned into a HERALD by Franklin Richards, and Dream has shown capable of winning (not through sheer power, but guile) against Lucifer. Galactus has been jobbing for years now, and even he dreams - I think Morpheus could beat him.

#8 Posted by KMART4455 (1290 posts) - - Show Bio

@henryarguelles5: Its Galactus vs Sandman.

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#9 Posted by KRGL (47 posts) - - Show Bio

@henryarguelles5 said:

Why spite? Galactus was recently turned into a HERALD by Franklin Richards, and Dream has shown capable of winning (not through sheer power, but guile) against Lucifer. Galactus has been jobbing for years now, and even he dreams - I think Morpheus could beat him.

You're kidding right?

#10 Posted by KMART4455 (1290 posts) - - Show Bio

@KRGL said:

@henryarguelles5 said:

Why spite? Galactus was recently turned into a HERALD by Franklin Richards, and Dream has shown capable of winning (not through sheer power, but guile) against Lucifer. Galactus has been jobbing for years now, and even he dreams - I think Morpheus could beat him.

You're kidding right?

I certainly hope so...

#11 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
It isn't spite. You guys need to start reading OPs and know the characters in question before flagging threads.
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#12 Posted by KMART4455 (1290 posts) - - Show Bio

@Morpheus_ said:

It isn't spite. You guys need to start reading OPs and know the characters in question before flagging threads.

Wait...

What?

#13 Posted by Billy Batson (57753 posts) - - Show Bio

Dream of the Endless not the stupid Marvel villain, silly gooses.
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#14 Posted by KMART4455 (1290 posts) - - Show Bio

@Billy Batson said:

Dream of the Endless not the stupid Marvel villain, silly gooses.
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No I know, but I dont see him beating Galactus....

#15 Posted by Baldy (5021 posts) - - Show Bio

@KMART4455 said:

@Billy Batson said:

Dream of the Endless not the stupid Marvel villain, silly gooses.
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No I know, but I dont see him beating Galactus....

You should probably read Sandman, it's a great series.

Death would defeat Galactus, not sure about Dream. I'll have to consider this, but I suspect he'd have a shot at least.

#16 Posted by KMART4455 (1290 posts) - - Show Bio

@Baldy said:

@KMART4455 said:

@Billy Batson said:

Dream of the Endless not the stupid Marvel villain, silly gooses.
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No I know, but I dont see him beating Galactus....

You should probably read Sandman, it's a great series.

Death would defeat Galactus, not sure about Dream. I'll have to consider this, but I suspect he'd have a shot at least.

I have read it........ It is good....

Thanks for the recommendation??

#17 Posted by imbackwimps (1064 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

#18 Posted by Dextersinister (5763 posts) - - Show Bio

Galactus is incapable of harming Dream who is way above him on the cosmic pecking order. Dr Destiny was able to warp reality with a portion of Dreams power other than that Dream was never a showy character.

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#19 Posted by ferventking (259 posts) - - Show Bio

@KRGL: It's Neil Gaimen Sandman. The Endless. HOw is this spite.

#20 Posted by TERMINATORXX (3899 posts) - - Show Bio

Spidermans Sandman is the only Sandman i've ever known.... He would stomp Galactus and his Herolds real hard.

#21 Posted by HideYourKids (102 posts) - - Show Bio

@TERMINATORXX said:

Spidermans Sandman is the only Sandman i've ever known.... He would stomp Galactus and his Herolds real hard.

Sandman is the guy that is believed to put people to sleep.

I am going to say Sandman and I dont know how to explain why lol.

#22 Posted by Saren (25274 posts) - - Show Bio

@henryarguelles5 said:

Why spite? Galactus was recently turned into a HERALD by Franklin Richards, and Dream has shown capable of winning (not through sheer power, but guile) against Lucifer. Galactus has been jobbing for years now, and even he dreams - I think Morpheus could beat him.

Dream has never defeated Lucifer in any kind of confrontation. He mildly embarrassed him in front of all the citizens of Hell once, and that was it.

I'll say Dream anyway.

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#23 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@Billy Batson said:

Dream of the Endless not the stupid Marvel villain, silly gooses.
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Yep. People annoy me.

I'll go with Sandman on this one.

#24 Edited by Baldy (5021 posts) - - Show Bio

@TERMINATORXX said:

Spidermans Sandman is the only Sandman i've ever known.... He would stomp Galactus and his Herolds real hard.

Wait, what? Spiderman's Sandman would stomp Galactus?

Troll much?

#25 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - - Show Bio

hmmm.... I don't really know, going with Galactus

#26 Posted by King Saturn (223808 posts) - - Show Bio
Sandman ( Dream ) for the Win. 
this could be an interesting fight though... 
#27 Posted by henryarguelles5 (366 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: I specifically said that Morpheus would not win against Lucifer directly. But Morpheus was able to out-play Lucifer in Hell, with everyone there...and all at once, like you said. Forget his power level - throughout the Lucifer series, it's his mind that makes him so formidable...and for Morpheus to do that to Lucifer - the master of guile - is definitely an accomplishment. It goes to show that Dream can do more than just wield power - he can think, formulate strategies - and against Galactus, who despite his supposedly great power seems to just blast stuff, Dream should win this.

#28 Posted by SpideyPresence (1906 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol at the people who though tit was spite.

#29 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Phylos said:

Galactus finds a new sandbox to play in.

#30 Posted by GlassRiddle (64 posts) - - Show Bio

Theres only one Sandman and that is spidermans please correct me if i mistaken but before its locked GALACTUS

#31 Posted by GlassRiddle (64 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh Wesley Dodds? Hmmmm I say Wesley Dodds honestly

#32 Posted by Mercy_ (92501 posts) - - Show Bio

@GlassRiddle said:

Theres only one Sandman and that is spidermans please correct me if i mistaken but before its locked GALACTUS

Did you read the first page or the OP?

It's not getting locked.

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#33 Posted by TDK_1997 (14456 posts) - - Show Bio

Dream can win.

#34 Posted by Baldy (5021 posts) - - Show Bio

@henryarguelles5 said:

@CitizenBane: I specifically said that Morpheus would not win against Lucifer directly. But Morpheus was able to out-play Lucifer in Hell, with everyone there...and all at once, like you said. Forget his power level - throughout the Lucifer series, it's his mind that makes him so formidable...and for Morpheus to do that to Lucifer - the master of guile - is definitely an accomplishment. It goes to show that Dream can do more than just wield power - he can think, formulate strategies - and against Galactus, who despite his supposedly great power seems to just blast stuff, Dream should win this.

I think you're downplaying Galactus' intelligence and just how useful cosmic awareness is. This is what happened to Doom upon absorbing Galactus' power..

#35 Posted by Baldy (5021 posts) - - Show Bio

@GlassRiddle said:

Oh Wesley Dodds? Hmmmm I say Wesley Dodds honestly

Stop trolling.

#36 Posted by GlassRiddle (64 posts) - - Show Bio

???????

#37 Posted by Floopay (8598 posts) - - Show Bio

Ha! Opened up this thread and thought it'd be Spidey Sandman vs. Galactus, was pretty much wondering who'd be dumb enough to vote for Sandman.

However, this is Neil Gaiman Sandman. I'd say this is about even. Aren't Death, Dream, Destiny, and the rest of the Endless about abstract level? The only thing that makes me lean towards Galactus is that the Endless change hosts as I recall. When one of them falls they transform into a new body. Though Galactus has also been killed before, he is supposed to be abstract level and Eternity regards him as his equal. He's jobbered a lot, but I think standard level he could take this.

I am going to go with Galactus, but this would be an interesting crossover.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#38 Posted by FourthDeity (2234 posts) - - Show Bio

@Phylos said:

Galactus finds a new sandbox to play in.

#39 Posted by GlassRiddle (64 posts) - - Show Bio

@Baldy: Stop Trolling? What you saying I said my answer is there a problem?

#40 Posted by Pistolwhip1 (837 posts) - - Show Bio

Morpheus spanks Galen .

#41 Posted by Saren (25274 posts) - - Show Bio

@henryarguelles5 said:

@CitizenBane: I specifically said that Morpheus would not win against Lucifer directly. But Morpheus was able to out-play Lucifer in Hell, with everyone there...and all at once, like you said. Forget his power level - throughout the Lucifer series, it's his mind that makes him so formidable...and for Morpheus to do that to Lucifer - the master of guile - is definitely an accomplishment. It goes to show that Dream can do more than just wield power - he can think, formulate strategies - and against Galactus, who despite his supposedly great power seems to just blast stuff, Dream should win this.

He did not out-play Lucifer or anyone else in Hell. He outplayed an archduke of hell called Choronzon. The only reason Lucifer felt slighted was because he was expecting a different outcome. Dream paid another visit to Hell later on and admitted that he was frightened of Lucifer. His mind did not help him there.

@Floopay said:

Aren't Death, Dream, Destiny, and the rest of the Endless about abstract level? The only thing that makes me lean towards Galactus is that the Endless change hosts as I recall. When one of them falls they transform into a new body. Though Galactus has also been killed before, he is supposed to be abstract level and Eternity regards him as his equal. He's jobbered a lot, but I think standard level he could take this.

I do not see how this is a valid reason for Galactus winning. The Endless do not change hosts for the simple reason that they do not have hosts. The only instance of this happening was when Morpheus transferred his essence into Daniel Hall to make him the new Dream of the Endless, and even that is iffy since Daniel was a child born in dreams and thus part of Morpheus ultimately. The Endless can also usually only be killed under a very specific set of circumstances. Dream's death, for instance, had a bunch of extraneous factors that Galactus cannot replicate without prep. Eternity does not regard Galactus as an equal. That is nonsense, and while we're at it, Eternity has also once said that the Living Tribunal is the only being he considers a peer. Does anyone really think a cosmic punching bag like Eternity is equal to the Living Tribunal?

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#42 Posted by Floopay (8598 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: In all fairness, is there a single cosmic force in the Marvel Universe that hasn't jobbed yet?

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#43 Posted by LubeMan (1067 posts) - - Show Bio

@KMART4455 said:

@Billy Batson said:

Dream of the Endless not the stupid Marvel villain, silly gooses.
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No I know, but I dont see him beating Galactus....

I personally think Morpheus is well above a cosmic being like Galactus, and deals with beings well above Galactus, like Lucifer. Not sure how this was ever not one sided, imo, as I don't really see what Galactus can do to Morpheus, who's power far outweighs his, imo. It's hard to weigh Vertigo characters against Marvel ones, especially cosmic beings. Again, this is all just imo.

#44 Posted by henryarguelles5 (366 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: Nope. These excellent scans from http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=477644&pagenumber=1 save me the trouble of finding my Lucifer collection:

Lucifer is the king of prep. If someone interferes with his expectation of a different outcome, that is a feat, and showcases Morpheus' cleverness. And in their later encounter, Lucifer gave Morpheus the key to Hell, so there wasn't much Morpheus could do about it. Yes, Lucifer won in the end, because he is leagues of levels beyond the Endless in power and, in his case, guile...but it doesn't change the fact that Morpheus won a small victory against a much more powerful opponent, and it doesn't change the fact that he could do the same to Galactus not by outfighting, but by outhinking.

#45 Posted by JediXMan (29541 posts) - - Show Bio

This thread is hilarious. I love all the guys on the first page calling spite. Now I know that I usually screw up when not looking at OPs, but at least I knew to check, because I knew it was possible the OP was referring to Dream.

Anyway, I'm backing Morpheus here. I could definitely see him winning this.

#46 Edited by Dextersinister (5763 posts) - - Show Bio

@Floopay: He's not equal to them people just say that because Galactus has talked to them to them a few times.

@Floopay said:

@CitizenBane: In all fairness, is there a single cosmic force in the Marvel Universe that hasn't jobbed yet?

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

You can't throw a stone without hitting a cosmic entity in the Marvel universe, each new addition diminishes the rest.

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#47 Posted by JediXMan (29541 posts) - - Show Bio
@GlassRiddle said:

Theres only one Sandman and that is spidermans please correct me if i mistaken but before its locked GALACTUS

The Sandman, Morpheus, Dream of the Endless.

Please do research before making comments like that. Dream is, in no way, outclassed here, and in no way is this spite.

#48 Posted by DoomDoomDoom (4212 posts) - - Show Bio

This thread, dear lord.

Gotta go with Dream.

#49 Posted by henryarguelles5 (366 posts) - - Show Bio

@Baldy: Only problem with this is that it's a feat for Doom, not Galactus. Personally, I love Galactus. I have a Galactus on my shelf, waiting to eat this planet (or maybe just my living room). But let's be honest: all he seems to do is blast stuff with his hands, blast stuff with his eyes, or...job to characters like Phoenix, Thanos, and Franklin Richards. If anything, the Silver Surfer has more varied feats with the Power Cosmic than Galactus does. I think Galactus has the POTENTIAL to beat just about anyone...but going by his standard MO, Morpheus wins this. Now, if it was the Doom in that Secret Wars scan against Morpheus......

#50 Posted by ShootingNova (15523 posts) - - Show Bio

What can Sandman do?