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#1 Posted by jasraj (4658 posts) - - Show Bio
Karate Kid (DC)
Samurai Jack

No Prep 
Morals On 
Takes Place In A Field 
 
If you think this is spite, tell me, and I will change the OP
#2 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11271 posts) - - Show Bio

You're making pointless battles. Karate Kid will beat 10 shades of crap out of him.

#3 Posted by jasraj (4658 posts) - - Show Bio
@Supreme Marvel said:
"You're making pointless battles. Karate Kid will beat 10 shades of crap out of him. "

But Jack has his sword
#4 Posted by Donovan Montgomery (5495 posts) - - Show Bio

JACK FOR THE EPIC WIN!!!!!!!!

#5 Posted by difficlus (10632 posts) - - Show Bio

KK slaughters him...

#6 Posted by jasraj (4658 posts) - - Show Bio
@difficlus:
Mabye not...., can't jack like jump 100 feet or something?, and he is a master swordsman
#7 Posted by difficlus (10632 posts) - - Show Bio
@jasraj said:
" @difficlus:
Mabye not...., can't jack like jump 100 feet or something?, and he is a master swordsman "
jack doesn't start battles with a jump does he? he is a close range fighter...
#8 Posted by jasraj (4658 posts) - - Show Bio
@difficlus:
Ok, KK gets a regualr sword
#9 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11271 posts) - - Show Bio

KK is a master of weaponry as well as martial arts. And am beginning to think you're just trolling. And can knock down Kryptonians and Daxams.

#10 Posted by difficlus (10632 posts) - - Show Bio
@jasraj said:
" @difficlus:
Ok, KK gets a regualr sword "
what the hell does he need the sword for?..lol
#11 Posted by jasraj (4658 posts) - - Show Bio
@difficlus said:
" @jasraj said:
" @difficlus:
Ok, KK gets a regualr sword "
what the hell does he need the sword for?..lol "

Fine, KK's strength and speed have been put down to jacks level, its just a sword fight
#12 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11271 posts) - - Show Bio
@jasraj said:

" @difficlus said:

" @jasraj said:
" @difficlus:
Ok, KK gets a regualr sword "
what the hell does he need the sword for?..lol "

Fine, KK's strength and speed have been put down to jacks level, its just a sword fight "
  @Supreme Marvel said:

" KK is a master of weaponry as well as martial arts. And am beginning to think you're just trolling. And can knock down Kryptonians and Daxams. "

#13 Posted by difficlus (10632 posts) - - Show Bio
@jasraj said:
" @difficlus said:
" @jasraj said:
" @difficlus:
Ok, KK gets a regualr sword "
what the hell does he need the sword for?..lol "

Fine, KK's strength and speed have been put down to jacks level, its just a sword fight "
KK doesn't have any superhuman strength. And he still wins either way...
#14 Posted by jasraj (4658 posts) - - Show Bio
@difficlus:
Is he better than Jack at sword fighting
#15 Posted by Deadcool (6756 posts) - - Show Bio

Karate Kid = Squirrelgirl
Karate Kid wins...

#16 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11271 posts) - - Show Bio

If Jack has a sword in his hand, it won't be for very long.

#17 Posted by jasraj (4658 posts) - - Show Bio
@Supreme Marvel:
I have watered down KK's feats, so he is equal to Jack
#18 Posted by difficlus (10632 posts) - - Show Bio
@jasraj said:
" @difficlus:
Is he better than Jack at sword fighting "
well i suppose so, he toyed with Mon-El in a strictly sword fight 
 
BTW now what you know KK would win what was the point of depowering him more and more? You want to know which version of KK is losing? Like i said he has no superhuman powers at all, all he does is use MAs and stuff to catch out opponents...
#19 Posted by jasraj (4658 posts) - - Show Bio
@difficlus:
But If i water him down it is not spite?
#20 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11271 posts) - - Show Bio
#21 Posted by Matezoide2 (15999 posts) - - Show Bio

Jack wins
 
and Val cant beat or injure the likes of Mon-El

#22 Posted by jasraj (4658 posts) - - Show Bio
Fine 
 
Samurai Jack is NOW equal to KK, everything, stamina and all that is EQUAL, so this is no longer Spite, it is just a plain old fashioned sword fight, if Jack loses, then fine, but it isnt spite if I water them down
#23 Posted by difficlus (10632 posts) - - Show Bio
@jasraj said:
" @difficlus:
But If i water him down it is not spite? "
yes it starts becoming spite if you deliberately want another opponent to win...this is a mismatch.
#24 Posted by Matezoide2 (15999 posts) - - Show Bio
@difficlus said:
" @jasraj said:
" @difficlus:
But If i water him down it is not spite? "
yes it starts becoming spite if you deliberately want another opponent to win...this is a mismatch. "
Jack wins and watering Karate Kid makes no sense,Val is peak human in everything (as ridiculous as that sounds), Jack is super-human
#25 Posted by difficlus (10632 posts) - - Show Bio
@Matezoide said:
" @difficlus said:
" @jasraj said:
" @difficlus:
But If i water him down it is not spite? "
yes it starts becoming spite if you deliberately want another opponent to win...this is a mismatch. "
Jack wins and watering Karate Kid makes no sense,Val is peak human in everything (as ridiculous as that sounds), Jack is super-human "
1. Um why? 
2. Excatly...thats what i say saying. 
#26 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11271 posts) - - Show Bio
@jasraj said:
" Fine 
 
Samurai Jack is NOW equal to KK, everything, stamina and all that is EQUAL, so this is no longer Spite, it is just a plain old fashioned sword fight, if Jack loses, then fine, but it isnt spite if I water them down
"
KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!! Karate Kid knows EVERY form of martial arts and weaponry in our history and everyone in the universe's history. ALL THAT versus a Samurai. Get it. Them being physically equal will have nothing to do with it because KK isn't inhuman or superhuman, he is a person that knows many things.
#27 Edited by Mercy_ (91888 posts) - - Show Bio

If you have to change the powerset and water down a character so much that they're no longer the character that you began with, then you know your battle has failed.

Moderator
#28 Posted by Matezoide2 (15999 posts) - - Show Bio
@difficlus said:
" @Matezoide said:
" @difficlus said:
" @jasraj said:
" @difficlus:
But If i water him down it is not spite? "
yes it starts becoming spite if you deliberately want another opponent to win...this is a mismatch. "
Jack wins and watering Karate Kid makes no sense,Val is peak human in everything (as ridiculous as that sounds), Jack is super-human "
1. Um why? 2. Excatly...thats what i say saying.  "
1) i mostly wanna engage on a debate,but Jack (like Karate Kid) has insane feats,we have seen him taking down 6 highly trained bounty hunters in less than 1 second and taking down an army of robots (easly above the hundred mark) without getting hit once,i dont think he is going to win easy,but Jack is ,definetively, not going down without a fight
the fun part is,both can one-shot each other
 
2) i was mostly explaining it to Jasraj :D
#29 Posted by difficlus (10632 posts) - - Show Bio
@jasraj said:
" Fine 
 
Samurai Jack is NOW equal to KK, everything, stamina and all that is EQUAL, so this is no longer Spite, it is just a plain old fashioned sword fight, if Jack loses, then fine, but it isnt spite if I water them down
"
unless Jack has the same knowledge of martial arts KK has he still loses, if you put him on par with KK (peak human) he loses even worse...
#30 Posted by difficlus (10632 posts) - - Show Bio
@Matezoide said:
" @difficlus said:
" @Matezoide said:
" @difficlus said:
" @jasraj said:
" @difficlus:
But If i water him down it is not spite? "
yes it starts becoming spite if you deliberately want another opponent to win...this is a mismatch. "
Jack wins and watering Karate Kid makes no sense,Val is peak human in everything (as ridiculous as that sounds), Jack is super-human "
1. Um why? 2. Excatly...thats what i say saying.  "
1) i mostly wanna engage on a debate,but Jack (like Karate Kid) has insane feats,we have seen him taking down 6 highly trained bounty hunters in less than 1 second and taking down an army of robots (easly above the hundred mark) without getting hit once,i dont think he is going to win easy,but Jack is ,definetively, not going down without a fight the fun part is,both can one-shot each other  2) i was mostly explaining it to Jasraj :D "
1. Haha, but KK has taken down Superboy twice, taken down Mon-El bloodlusted and prevented a blitz by Mon-el who quickly ended up in another solar system within the same second...He has made an anti-earth quake, taken down an opponent who has put superman under his heel, shattered a 100 000 ton ice sheet with 1 punch, destroyed an incoming asteroid in 1 shot. Jack isn't even tagging this guy who also stopped a blitz by PRECRISIs superboy and landed him in a tree... 
Yes both can injure each other but i don't see Jack knocking out KK in 1 punch, he rarely packs so much power in his punches when fighting opponents...
#31 Posted by jasraj (4658 posts) - - Show Bio
@difficlus said:
" @jasraj said:
" @difficlus:
But If i water him down it is not spite? "
yes it starts becoming spite if you deliberately want another opponent to win...this is a mismatch. "

I don't, I am watering him down so it isn't spite
#32 Posted by jasraj (4658 posts) - - Show Bio
@difficlus said:
" @jasraj said:
" Fine 
 
Samurai Jack is NOW equal to KK, everything, stamina and all that is EQUAL, so this is no longer Spite, it is just a plain old fashioned sword fight, if Jack loses, then fine, but it isnt spite if I water them down
"
unless Jack has the same knowledge of martial arts KK has he still loses, if you put him on par with KK (peak human) he loses even worse... "

Jack trained martial arts with monks, blindfolded... 
 
    
  See, he trains with monks
#33 Edited by difficlus (10632 posts) - - Show Bio
@jasraj said:

" @difficlus said:

" @jasraj said:
" @difficlus:
But If i water him down it is not spite? "
yes it starts becoming spite if you deliberately want another opponent to win...this is a mismatch. "

I don't, I am watering him down so it isn't spite "
NO! a spite is not when 1 character vastly overpowers another, that is a mismatch. A spite is if the OP has delibrately tinted the odds in favour of 1 character. like this:  Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Zoom, Doomsday, Darkseid, Mongul, Power Girl, Supergirl, and Black Adam vs Spiderman. 
now that is a spite thread because the OP is obviously tinting the odds in favour of the team... 
this is a mismatch:
Kyle Rayner vs Classic Herc. 
 
@jasraj said:
" @difficlus said:
" @jasraj said:
" Fine 
 
Samurai Jack is NOW equal to KK, everything, stamina and all that is EQUAL, so this is no longer Spite, it is just a plain old fashioned sword fight, if Jack loses, then fine, but it isnt spite if I water them down
"
unless Jack has the same knowledge of martial arts KK has he still loses, if you put him on par with KK (peak human) he loses even worse... "

Jack trained martial arts with monks, blindfolded... 
 
    
  See, he trains with monks "
does he have knowledge of the same martial arts that lets KK do all he can do? Every MA in the DC universe? No...
#34 Edited by jasraj (4658 posts) - - Show Bio
@difficlus:
No, but I am just saying he can fight without his sword,
#35 Posted by difficlus (10632 posts) - - Show Bio
@jasraj said:
" @difficlus:
No, but I am just saying he can fight without his sword, "
dude ive watched the entire series too...i know what jack can and cannot do...
#36 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11271 posts) - - Show Bio
@jasraj said:
" @difficlus:
No, but I am just saying he can fight without his sword, "
With or without, he can't do anything KK can't do. Everything Jack can do, KK can do plus like a million or martial arts.
#37 Posted by jasraj (4658 posts) - - Show Bio
@difficlus:
Ok, but I think Jack puts up a good fight
#38 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11271 posts) - - Show Bio
@jasraj said:
" @difficlus:
Ok, but I think Jack puts up a good fight "
Then you'd be wrong and anything you say on the matter would be irrelevant to the fact you don't know anything about Karate Kid. You might as well use the guy from the films.
#39 Posted by jasraj (4658 posts) - - Show Bio
@Supreme Marvel:
Guy from film gets stomped, IMO Jack puts up a good fight, he may lose, but he has done wacky things, jump 100 feet in the air, take on 1000 robots etc
#40 Posted by Sexy Merc (41971 posts) - - Show Bio

Jack.

#41 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11271 posts) - - Show Bio

Mon-El could destroy 1 billion robots in a second. Yet Jack couldn't do nothing to Mon-El. KK could and has done many feats against Mon-El. Jack will be out cold within a second. He won't put up a "good fight" at all.

#42 Posted by Primmaster64 (21073 posts) - - Show Bio

KK

#43 Posted by jasraj (4658 posts) - - Show Bio
I wouldn't say KK wins so easily 
 
just because one personn beats the other doesn't mean that you automatically beat that person, if you know what I mean, but KK wins
#44 Posted by Akoot (16 posts) - - Show Bio

Hey I really like Samurai Jack but I know nothing about Karate Kid, so I'm going to make a post in the Battles forum putting them against eachother, then try to water one of them down because I didn't get the desired result.
 
I will ignore all reason and just keep making invalid points.
 
Sound familiar?

#45 Posted by jasraj (4658 posts) - - Show Bio
@Akoot said:
"Hey I really like Samurai Jack but I know nothing about Karate Kid, so I'm going to make a post in the Battles forum putting them against eachother, then try to water one of them down because I didn't get the desired result.  I will ignore all reason and just keep making invalid points.  Sound familiar? "

Dude, I want to know who wins, thats all, I knew KK can do all that stuff, I watered them down so it isn't spite, stop taking the mess, if you don't want to answer then don't, simple
#46 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11271 posts) - - Show Bio
@jasraj said:

" @Akoot said:

"Hey I really like Samurai Jack but I know nothing about Karate Kid, so I'm going to make a post in the Battles forum putting them against eachother, then try to water one of them down because I didn't get the desired result.  I will ignore all reason and just keep making invalid points.  Sound familiar? "

Dude, I want to know who wins, thats all, I knew KK can do all that stuff, I watered them down so it isn't spite, stop taking the mess, if you don't want to answer then don't, simple "
He doesn't need to answer because he has commonsense. He knows Jack will not have a chance in hell against KK even if you water KK down. It won't last long. Do you think Jack could take out Batman?
#47 Posted by jasraj (4658 posts) - - Show Bio
@Supreme Marvel:
Jack can easily take out Batman,
#48 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11271 posts) - - Show Bio
@jasraj: Do you think Samurai Jack could hurt Superman?
#49 Posted by jasraj (4658 posts) - - Show Bio
@Sexy Merc said:
"Jack. "

Why?
#50 Posted by jasraj (4658 posts) - - Show Bio
@Supreme Marvel said:
" @jasraj: Do you think Samurai Jack could hurt Superman? "

No.........