@Mortein said:
@uberhikari said:
@Mortein said:
I would say he has 50% chance to clear this.
He will reach BB almost certainly, and I think he has a decent chance against him
Normally I would say BB would beat him in random encounter, but considering how Piccolo will have full knowledge and at least 1 senzu bean left, as well as morals on will nerf BB much more then they will nerf Piccolo, I think Piccolo will have a chance to win.
He could use those 10 minutes he has to charge up his strongest attack ever, and then fire it the moment a battle starts, then eat his bean, charge another attack and finish BB. I think it is possible this could work
Are you serious? In every encounter between Black Bolt and Hulk, Black Bolt wins. But you think he'll be beaten by Piccolo? Stop. Do you think Black Bolt is just going to stand there while Piccolo charges up his second attack to hit him? After the first attack, which will not hurt Black Bolt, Black Bolt will whisper and thrash Piccolo. This is nonsense and you know it.
Piccolo has moon+ durability, Black Bolts whisper is only about as powerful as a nuclear bomb, he'll have to scream to kill him.
This beam fired by Piccolo had energy equivalent to 600 billion strongest nuclear bombs.
Piccolo we are using in this battle is several times more powerful than the one that destroyed the moon withouth even powering up. Now imagine how powerful attack would be, from several times more powerful Piccolo, who was powering up for 10 minutes.
I think attack which is equivalent to the explosion of trillions of nuclear bombs should be powerful enough to hurt BB and stun him for a while, or maybe not?
@Dredeuced said:
Things get dicey when you get down to molecular manipulation. Piccolo might actually have the power/damage feats to put Black Bolt down, but he's shown no resistance to transmutation (via Buu). If Black Bolt gets a whiff of how strong Piccolo is then he's not going to hold back.
And what is molecular manipulation ? It is process of breaking bonds between the molecules and then arranging them at will.
But stronger bonds between molecules and atoms are what we call super durability, and Piccolo is super durable. He can use his ki to boost his durability. So has BB ever used his molecular manipulation powers to transmute someone who is as durable as Piccolo?
He could transmute the air around him into something he can't breathe, but Piccolo has shown the ability to create things (clothes, weapons, clock etc) out of nothing, so why couldn't he create air around himself?
Also, could he possibly use mafuba to seal him up into jar, the way he sealed Kami?
I'm not saying Piccolo wins this, I think BB is superior, but in given situation I think Piccolo would at least have a chance.
Better match would probably be namek saga Piccolo vs Black Bolt
@uberhikari said:
Black Bolt survived the explosion of the T-Bomb, which did this:
well that's impressive, but how am I suppose to quantify that feat? how much energy is necessary to make a hole in spacetime? how close was he to bomb when it exploded?
First, let's talk about the stipulations of this thread. You gave 1 character information on his opponent, gave that character some equipment that would amp his power (senzu bean), then you let him "power up" for 10 mins, then let him attack as soon as the fight starts in such a way that his opponent couldn't dodge, then you nerfed the other character by putting him in character and making him stand there for 10 mins while his opponent "powers up." I've heard of equalizers but this is ridiculous. If you need these many equalizers, then maybe the two characters shouldn't be fighting each other? I mean, you've essentially let one fighter start the fight 10 minutes before his opponent.
Second, you can't power scale the way you did. While it is true that Saiyan Saga Piccolo was stronger than the version of Piccolo that busted the moon, it's impossible for you to know just how much more powerful he became. Why? Because it's impossible to know whether or not base stats like destructive capacity, durability, speed, etc. scale linearly with ki. If this form of power scaling was legitimate, then you could attempt to claim that EoS DBZ characters had power levels that should allow them to bust a solar system or some such nonsense like that. Essentially what you're attempting to do is give characters feats that they don't possess in a roundabout way.
Third, it doesn't really matter because I've already posted evidence that Black Bolt survived the T-Bomb, which was a bomb that tore a hole in space-time that was a couple of parsecs long. FYI, a couple of parsecs is about the length of a star system. (Our solar system is 3.26 parsecs long.)
Fourth, Piccolo doesn't have "super durability." That's just some nonsense you made up. Piccolo was never shown to have any resistance to matter transmutation and, moreover, this is confirmed by the fact that he was turned to stone by Dabura's spit.
Fifth, it is well known that Black Bolt has rather extensive molecular manipulation, and his molecular manipulation comes in two forms. A) he has ordinary matter/energy manipulation abilities and B) he has rather extensive electron manipulation that can be used to amp his strength, durability, etc. And this is the main reason why he's a class 100. Like I said before, in every encounter between Black Bolt and Hulk, BB has come out on top. Additionally, in Marvel Two-in-One Annual, Black Bolt used his electron manipulation powers to create an energy blast that stopped a solar flare from destroying the earth and used his powers to close mini-black holes created by Graviton. Black Bolt is way beyond menial things like clothes, weapons, and clocks. Closing mini-black holes>>>>>>creating clocks. Piccolo has absolutely 0 in battle feats when it comes to molecular manipulation, so speculating about whether he could create air if there was none is useless.
Sixth, in order to use the Evil Containment Wave, you need to seal the person in a jar of some sort. Based on the OP you wrote, Piccolo doesn't have access to a container. All he has is 2 senzu beans. And character don't have any other equipment unless specified by the OP.
Seventh, how do you quantify the T-Bomb? It basically destroyed a part of the universe. It's the same thing as Galactus destroying a universe with the UN, except on a smaller scale. That's how a universe gets destroyed, by destroying space-time, which is the fabric that holds a universe together. That's essentially what the T-Bomb did. It created a hole in space-time a couple of parsecs long and caused the Shi'ar to surrender to the Inhumans. Also, Black Bolt was standing right next to it when it exploded because his voice was necessary to activate it.
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