Saiyan_Hulks Tourney Maertyy15 vs Betatesthighlander1

@martyyy15:

well, post dat link

http://ben10.wikia.com/wiki/The_Forever_Knights

@betatesthighlander1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz08OAOhuF8thats the link watch from 1:06 and lol batman is the most famous planner in fiction.

@martyyy15:

I din;t think she was getting full TP for this fight (also, there were several of her in that video, we don't know how much was the other Alices)

also, http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/XanatosGambit, named after him

@betatesthighlander1:

Yeah she has full tp except for when she made that guy bleed at end of second movie. The battle I showed is her max she doesn't go above that level of tp in terms of offense. And all the alices are clones, they are all her and the same person.

yeah, but in this battle we only get one Alice; and that concrete busting thing involved a lot of Alices

@betatesthighlander1:

the one from 1:06 is just one alice. And xantos is a good planer but for this fight he just needs to die lol, being a marytr won't win the fight lol. And are these forever knights the ones wit lightsaber like weapons?

but we don;t know if the other Alices were contributing

what did that part mean?

yeah

@betatesthighlander1:

it shows her doing the feat 1:06-1:20 shows one alice

and this is her first time doing it, in the first clip I showed she has mastered it. She has become better at it by the time she does concreate thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnPQmdUAJn0 watch from 1:18

@betatesthighlander1:

Oh just saying a xantos gamble where he dies won't win this competetion lol and are those the forever knights with lightsaber type weapons

yes, those are the forever knights

and the perpetrator of a Xanatos gambit doesn't usually die

that was wood

@betatesthighlander1:

It waas her first time ever doing that. Since then she has had lots of practice, and was still able to send the monster flying. And how durable is xantos suit? Is it first movie first iron man suit durable, the one he used to escape terrorists? And lightsabers huh....thats an issue but saphira still frys them. And are the providence knights the same as the other knights sorta? And do they have any weaknesses?

look, you should prolly ask @the_legendary_supersaiyan_hulk about providence and Forever Knights

anyways, Xantos's suit? Goliath can tear through steel, and Xanatos can go toe-to-toe with him

@betatesthighlander1:

Eragon also has the abilty to read minds so he would know whta Conan would do befroe he did it. And here are some qoutes off the book series wiki page about eragons skills: "The elf strength and agility he gained, combined with his advanced swordsmanship, allowed him to best any human or dwarf warrior, along with most elves"

"As taught to him by Brom, Eragon's fighting style consisted of fast and elegant techniques. He was also an adept archer and hunter, a trait only enhanced by his transformation. [the transformation was making him elf human hybrid]"

" He had a particular talent for pyrokinesis, able to manipulate fire in many ways using only one word."

@betatesthighlander1:

Ok no problem. Whoa thats pretty hard core. Does it have any weapons on it?

Providence Soldiers and Forever Knights are completely different.

Forever Knight:

The Forever Knights operate according to the Medieval way: their members dress in suits of armor, complete with the appropriate, albeit heavily enhanced, weaponry. When Sir George came back and unified the factions, the Knights started using sleeker-looking armor, and far more improved energy-based weaponry.

The Forever Knights utilize a wide array of weapons, mostly created through the study of alien technology. These include: laser lances, energy-based kite shields, and laser crossbows. They also possess energy swords and real swords; the former is often use for combat while the latter is used strictly for ceremonial purposes.

However, the Forever Knights here only have their armor, energy swords and energy-based kite-shield.

Providence Soldier:

When Rex traveled six months into the future, he noticed two agents who were guarding the entrance to Black Knight's office. They appeared to be wearing full black suits with dark grey vests and a white, glowing, rectangular form of goggles.

There also appears to be more agents that wear this uniform. Unlike most other Providence agents, they are not only skilled in basic marksmanship, but also in swordsmanship and stealth. They are more agile and more of a formidable fighting opponent and appear to be Black Knight's elite guard. Rex dubbed them "Black Pawns".

It is later revealed that the Black Pawns are nothing more than robots programmed to serve Black Knight's every command. They are the only force of agents that remained loyal to Black Knight after White Knight reclaimed Providence.

They are equipped with: Standard armoring, a Providence Club and an EVO Blaster.

@the_legendary_supersaiyan_hulk:

thanks.

@martyyy15:

I'll take xenomorphs they should be useful

I already showed examples of Conan being vastly superior to anyone "skilled" at swordfighting

as for TP, Conan can resist that kind of stuff

plus, what Conan does is mostly instinct, he's not going to gain much by mind-reading

it has a laser that comes out of the wrist

@betatesthighlander1:

does that make him immune to having his mind read and eragon is a massivley powerful telepath capable of invading even the kings mind, who had the entire land of alegasisa under his control and could do profersor X level illusions via telepathy. And eragon invaded his mind. He also was taught mind reading telepathy by elfs who are experts at it. He should be able to read conans mind.

@betatesthighlander1:

And eragon can always just say brisinger, the fire spell and blast connan with a fireball point blank. Urgals are very barbaric and kill their own even, conans savagery is nothing he has not dealt with before

dud, Conan was resisting a Deamon and a Goddess

also, just mind-reading would be pretty useless in a fight against this guy

@betatesthighlander1:

how would it be useless? He still has thoughts that can be read. And Eragon can only mind read in this scenerio, I am not allowing his more high tier magic as it would be OP

Urgals sound no worse than Picts (Conan was offing those when he was eight), or even average deamons

anyways, the fire thing sounds like it could be dodged (or, y'know, he could just stab while Eragon said the magic word)

because you'd have to figure out what he was thinking, and than think of what to do to avoid it, seems like it would take to long to use effectively in a sword fight

also, most of what he does is instinct at this point

@betatesthighlander1:

It does not take much to say a word while fighitng plus he just has to think it esp for a simple spell like brisinger "After his teachings with Oromis, Eragon had a bigger grasp of magic and surpassed most other magicians. He could use non-verbal spells"

@betatesthighlander1:

hmm ok I get what you mean. Though I don't think lack of mind reading will be a barrier for him. Guy leads armys against soliders who can feel no pain and wins. That only happend once or twice though.

Conan's entire carrier is the killing of Wizards

and saying a word is kind of telegraphing your next move (Conan would probably kill him during that small opening)

Conan fights monsters all the time as well

@betatesthighlander1: saying a word while fighting is as easy as giving a battle cry, eragon can do it. And how would he deal with two xenomorphs?

@betatesthighlander1:

And I'm watching some stuff on xantos he is pretty cool. BUt he seems more suited for a long term sceme than making a short term battle stragety.

three hours can be a long time

J could shot them, or Dutch could shoot them, or David could shoot them, or Ash could shoot them

@betatesthighlander1:

acid blood splatter. someone is going to get burned.

notice all the long-range kills (alien blood splatter like, 10 feet maximum)

@martyyy15:

happens in each alien movie shooting xeno is never good move esp j that will be like an acid bomb

@betatesthighlander1:

predators aren't xenos though and your guys are in a enclosed room. xenos always tend to have thier blood splatter when shot but xantos weapon wouldn't cause splatter cause it is a laser

in Aliens they were shooting a lot of aliens in some pretty tight quarters, and there were virtually no acid burns

@betatesthighlander1:

oh right, ok you got me on that one. BUt if J decides to shoot one thats a problem for the team. and their inside mouth can break xantos helmet if they get chance

J knows how to and not to fight his aliens

@betatesthighlander1:

thats agent K. And thats not gonna help against anyone on the team. Here is what happens alice blasts door down suprissing everyone then her and neo reinact the lobby scene and the clip I showed of alice, then saphira incenerates anyone left, alice protects her and neo in the inferno like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAyuGyUbfbI then yoh and eragon finish off xantos, or yoh just takes him out long range with celestiail slash

@betatesthighlander1:

that is not gonna do anythig against a xeno

yes, but it was J who know so much about fighting aliens (he can tell everyone else exactly what to do)

yeah, and I think Dutch has the trap making/shooting skills to fight the rest

oh, and Ash Williams made all these defenses in one day with nothing but a bunch of medieval peasants and junk in his car; Imagine what he could do with David Xanatos, J,. and all the tech Providence had to offer

but J know how to fight aliens, and an m-16 will do a fine job against your average xeno

@betatesthighlander1:

who on your team is shown in that clip? And what kind of tech does this providence place got that xantos and dutch could use? And I think any ground set trap goes off from alices opening psycic shockwave

@betatesthighlander1:

not if gets within a few feet. keep in mind they also have thier long sharp tails. And the sceneerio I laid out they don't even need to send the xenos in

that was Ash Williams, he built all of the defenses and was the one driving the death-coptor

yeah, but that scenario's not happening, because my team will prepare

@betatesthighlander1:

ohh ok. Yeah he can't take alice hand to hand. and keep in mind my team knows thier positions from amidamrus recon. So they aren't going in blind

the econ is tricky, but Xanatos is known fro his contingencies

as for Alice HtH

against a Lady who can just turn a fully grown man into a geyser of blood

@betatesthighlander1:

what is the econ? And that womans fighting skills are nothing compared to alices, and alice has fought monsters like that without her powers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh5lYoAREXY fights a monster far stronger and this is when she lost her powers

and here she fights wesker without powers and wesker is on par with neo incuding regeration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycXgJ2lDT7s

the first depended on the other monster being really slow and unable to effectively attack

the second was fairly valid, but I still think Ash could take her

@betatesthighlander1:

going to bed more debate tomorrow

@betatesthighlander1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e85b04q930Yfights highly trained solider and agent. Post something of ash doing fighting of that skill