Sage Mode Naruto vs. Hawk Eyes Mihawk

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Rules:

  • Morals on for both, but determined to kill the other person. No holding back.
  • Full knowledge for both, 5 minutes to prep(Naruto already has three clones prepared prior to prep).
  • Start 40 feet apart.
  • Naruto is limited to Sage Mode only, but you can use his Sage Mode feats after his fight with Pain.
  • No outside help.
  • Fight takes place where Naruto fought Pain(destroyed Konoha).
  • No Kyuubi for Naruto.
  • Win by death or KO.

Who wins and why?

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This seems like a pretty bad Naruto stomp to me, but as Leo said, need more Mihawk feats. we know he's fast and strong, but he's still just a swordsman.

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inb4 aragorn says naruto solos OPverse

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This seems like a pretty bad Naruto stomp to me, but as Leo said, need more Mihawk feats. we know he's fast and strong, but he's still just a swordsman.

@leo-343 said:

Mihawk needs more feats.

No he does not need any feats, the fact of Current Zoro>>>>>>>SM Naruto is enough to call it a stomp in his favor

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#9  Edited By Mije_101

@synchronized_123: I've seen your naruto wank posts too but they truly don't compare.

You need to step it up.

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@mije_101 said:

inb4 aragorn says naruto solos OPverse

This is sage naruto...

@leo-343 said:

Mihawk needs more feats.

Current Zoro>>SM Naruto

What? He took multiple hits and help for pica... Sage naruto is not losing to him at all.

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This fight entirely depends on which version of sage mode OP is using.

The one who fought pain dies a horrible death.

The one who fought the war should win a majority.

The one who one shotted the divine tree stomps.

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What? He took multiple hits and help for pica... Sage naruto is not losing to him at all.

Help?Zoro was already going to cut Pica in the same fashion he did, the only reason he got help from Orlumbus was because he needed to cover that distance quickly since Pica was about to kill King Riku

What exactly are trying to say with multiple hits?He is a swordsman its not like he was going bust it or anything so of course he would slice his way through the win, in fact considering his first two hits shows he can casually pull slashes of that magnitude casually

Current Monster Trio is above SM Naruto

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SM Naruto.

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Mihawk cuts him in half

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#15  Edited By DXC

@leo-343 said:

Mihawk needs more feats.

As a top tier Mihawk should stomp but you're right.Who knows,Mihawk might be a glass that relies on swordmanship to counter everything.

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#16  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

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Help?Zoro was already going to cut Pica in the same fashion he did, the only reason he got help from Orlumbus was because he needed to cover that distance quickly since Pica was about to kill King Riku.

Yes, for neither of which sage naruto needs help.

What exactly are trying to say with multiple hits?He is a swordsman its not like he was going bust it or anything so of course he would slice his way through the win, in fact considering his first two hits shows he can casually pull slashes of that magnitude casually.

Kenpachi is a swordsman, too..

Current Monster Trio is above SM Naruto.

Three of them put together, or individually?

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#17  Edited By SonDeathEater

@princearagorn1: He didn't need help for cutting Pica.He cut him easily in half and did it again vertically and one shotting Pica who said that his stone body isn't anything compared to his Full Arnament Haki.

Edit:King's punch tho

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#18  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@sondeatheater:

He didn't need help for cutting Pica.He cut him easily in half and did it again vertically and one shotting Pica who said that his stone body isn't anything compared to his Full Arnament Haki.

Sure he did. He had a whole cyclops/wolverine sequence for that... If you're saying the cut itself was his own power, that's true, and nothing sage naruto cannot top.

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@princearagorn1:

DC isn't everything...

M3 top attacks are weaker than Naruto's but can defeat him too.

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#20  Edited By SonDeathEater

@princearagorn1: The only help he got was cleaning out the trash(ironically much more impressive) by Elizabello and destination traveled.You could've said that he increased his speed from the throw but that doesn't make the same case for when Zoro

A)Cut him vertically(He was thrown Horizontally)

B)Defeated Pica

Not to mention Robin even noted that Zoro would've finished Pica much earlier too had he not run away so much...

Or the fact that Zoro hasn't even used Asura or pushed himself to his limits....

Edit:nvm

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@sondeatheater:

He didn't need help for cutting Pica.He cut him easily in half and did it again vertically and one shotting Pica who said that his stone body isn't anything compared to his Full Arnament Haki.

Sure he did. He had a whole cyclops/wolverine sequence for that... If you're saying the cut itself was his own power, that's true, and nothing sage naruto cannot top.

Uh Sage Mode Naruto is not a city buster O.o

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@dxc said:

@princearagorn1:

DC isn't everything...

M3 top attacks are weaker than Naruto's but can defeat him too.

No, but it is an important factor. Can they? Possibly. Will they? Not sure.

@princearagorn1: The only help he got was cleaning out the trash(ironically much more impressive) by Elizabello and destination traveled.You could've said that he increased his speed from the throw but that doesn't make the same case for when Zoro

A)Cut him vertically(He was thrown Horizontally)

B)Defeated Pica

Not to mention Robin even noted that Zoro would've finished Pica a much earlier too had he not run away so much...

What exactly are you saying here?

Or the fact that Zoro hasn't even used Asura or pushed himself to his limits....

He used a new called Ichidai Sanzen Daisen Sekai, actually.

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@princearagorn1 said:

@sondeatheater:

He didn't need help for cutting Pica.He cut him easily in half and did it again vertically and one shotting Pica who said that his stone body isn't anything compared to his Full Arnament Haki.

Sure he did. He had a whole cyclops/wolverine sequence for that... If you're saying the cut itself was his own power, that's true, and nothing sage naruto cannot top.

Uh Sage Mode Naruto is not a city buster O.o

He doesn't have the AoE - he has the AoE to cover pica though, and but he can still spam mountain-hallowing attacks..

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He doesn't have the AoE - he has the AoE to cover pica though, and but he can still spam mountain-hallowing attacks..

Considering how large of an explosion a small RS can make, I don't think it's too far fetched to assume that this could :

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@sondeatheater said:

@princearagorn1: The only help he got was cleaning out the trash(ironically much more impressive) by Elizabello and destination traveled.You could've said that he increased his speed from the throw but that doesn't make the same case for when Zoro

A)Cut him vertically(He was thrown Horizontally)

B)Defeated Pica

Not to mention Robin even noted that Zoro would've finished Pica a much earlier too had he not run away so much...

What exactly are you saying here?

Or the fact that Zoro hasn't even used Asura or pushed himself to his limits....

He used a new called Ichidai Sanzen Daisen Sekai, actually.

Thought you were downplaying the feat by saying Zoro required help when you started denying the feat for no reason.

So was 1080 pound cannon.Asura is still his strongest technique in his arsenal.

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@princearagorn1 said:

He doesn't have the AoE - he has the AoE to cover pica though, and but he can still spam mountain-hallowing attacks..

Considering how large of an explosion a small RS can make, I don't think it's too far fetched to assume that this could :

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Yes, but we didn't get to see the area it covers properly...

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@sondeatheater:

Thought you were downplaying the feat by saying Zoro required help when you started denying the feat for no reason.

Denying the feat? What I said that sage naruto doesn't need help to do better than what zoro did..

So was 1080 pound cannon.Asura is still his strongest technique in his arsenal.

Why is that, exactly?

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@sondeatheater:

Thought you were downplaying the feat by saying Zoro required help when you started denying the feat for no reason.

Denying the feat? What I said that sage naruto doesn't need help to do better than what zoro did..

So was 1080 pound cannon.Asura is still his strongest technique in his arsenal.

Why is that, exactly?

Zoro doesn't need help to do the feat though which is what we're saying

Because Asura is literally a form that amplifies Zoro like his Gorilla form.

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@princearagorn1 said:

@sondeatheater:

Thought you were downplaying the feat by saying Zoro required help when you started denying the feat for no reason.

Denying the feat? What I said that sage naruto doesn't need help to do better than what zoro did..

So was 1080 pound cannon.Asura is still his strongest technique in his arsenal.

Why is that, exactly?

Zoro doesn't need help to do the feat though which is what we're saying

Sure he did. he needed to be thrown.

Because Asura is literally a form that amplifies Zoro like his Gorilla form.

Hm. I don't recall that. Can you post where Gorrila/asura's mechanism is explained?

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Sage Naruto wins.

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#31  Edited By nefarious

Mihawk blitzes Naruto.

Off with his head.

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Mihawk blitzes Naruto.

Off with his head.

Mihawk doesn't have the speed feats to blitz naruto at all...

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@sondeatheater said:

@princearagorn1 said:

@sondeatheater:

Thought you were downplaying the feat by saying Zoro required help when you started denying the feat for no reason.

Denying the feat? What I said that sage naruto doesn't need help to do better than what zoro did..

So was 1080 pound cannon.Asura is still his strongest technique in his arsenal.

Why is that, exactly?

Zoro doesn't need help to do the feat though which is what we're saying

Sure he did. he needed to be thrown.

Because Asura is literally a form that amplifies Zoro like his Gorilla form.

Hm. I don't recall that. Can you post where Gorrila/asura's mechanism is explained?

To get to Pica who was a city away in distance away.

Both forms were used against Kaku.When using his Gorilla strength, we see his muscles flex like Trunk's ultraform.

Asura literally evaporates Kaku's strongest attack with Asura and it's based on anger and frustration which would actually require Zoro to go all out to use it.

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@sondeatheater:

To get to Pica who was a city away in distance away.

Both forms were used against Kaku.When using his Gorilla strength, we see his muscles flex like Trunk's ultraform.

Asura literally evaporates Kaku's strongest attack with Asura and it's based on anger and frustration which would actually require Zoro to go all out to use it.

First: what?

Second: Kaku's strongest attack is fodder at this point.

Third: Basically, what you're trying to say is if current zoro uses asura, it'll do more damage than ISDS, implying his old technique is better than the new one, for which some sort of solid proof is needed.

Last: Just saw your edit in comment 20.

Edit:nvm

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#35  Edited By synchronized_123

@mije_101: Right, because apparently, Naruto, that has already passed island level, gets stomped by multi-mountain characters like no tomorrow. And island level is just me being generous, because I know that you'd get butthurt when Naruto gets mentioned as country level.

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#36  Edited By SonDeathEater

@princearagorn1 said:

@sondeatheater:

To get to Pica who was a city away in distance away.

Both forms were used against Kaku.When using his Gorilla strength, we see his muscles flex like Trunk's ultraform.

Asura literally evaporates Kaku's strongest attack with Asura and it's based on anger and frustration which would actually require Zoro to go all out to use it.

First: what?

Second: Kaku's strongest attack is fodder at this point.

Third: Basically, what you're trying to say is if current zoro uses asura, it'll do more damage than ISDS, implying his old technique is better than the new one, for which some sort of solid proof is needed.

Last: Just saw your edit in comment 20.

Edit:nvm

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1.You keep saying he needs help to do it but he doesn't need help to.

>He's strong enough to do the feat by himself

>He needs someone to throw in order to do it

2.Not when Zoro fought him the first time

3.It's more of a form like Gear 2nd.

>Implying all the techniques he's doing now aren't just upgraded versions of his older attacks

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#37  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@sondeatheater:

1.You keep saying he needs help to do it but he doesn't need help to.

>He's strong enough to do the feat by himself

>He needs someone to throw in order to do it

I'm putting sage naruto in zoro's situation, and he doesn't need help anywhere.

2.Not when Zoro fought him the first time.

? Regardless of which point we take kaku at, his attacks were still fodder compared to the current slashes.

3.It's more of a form like Gear 2nd.

Where are you getting that, exactly?

>Implying all the techniques he's doing now aren't just upgraded versions of his older attacks

Exactly, they are upgraded versions. None of the asura moves are anywhere near as powerful as the current ones.

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see this is why Naruto is on the "Serrure Clause"

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@serrure said:

see this is why Naruto is on the "Serrure Clause"

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@nefarious said:

Mihawk blitzes Naruto.

Off with his head.

Mihawk doesn't have the speed feats to blitz naruto at all...

Actually, he does. Mihawk was able to keep up with Second Gear Luffy.

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@sondeatheater:

1.You keep saying he needs help to do it but he doesn't need help to.

>He's strong enough to do the feat by himself

>He needs someone to throw in order to do it

I'm putting sage naruto in zoro's situation, and he doesn't need help anywhere.

2.Not when Zoro fought him the first time.

? Regardless of which point we take kaku at, his attacks were still fodder compared to the current slashes.

3.It's more of a form like Gear 2nd.

Where are you getting that, exactly?

>Implying all the techniques he's doing now aren't just upgraded versions of his older attacks

Exactly, they are upgraded versions. None of the asura moves are anywhere near as powerful as the current ones.

1.Point being....?

2.Again, Zoro struggled heavily and had to dodge a demonstarted version before hand.Using Asura let him completely destroy the attack

3.It's a amplified form

4.Asura is literally based on willpower aka Haki which Zoro specializes in.

Have you thought that maybe, Asura got stronger or that he improved its capabilities?It will still be his strongest technique in one variation or another which I can gurantee until Zoro develops a new move(or not)

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@princearagorn1 said:
@nefarious said:

Mihawk blitzes Naruto.

Off with his head.

Mihawk doesn't have the speed feats to blitz naruto at all...

Actually, he does. Mihawk was able to keep up with Second Gear Luffy.

Yes he was. That's the best he did iirc, hence the comment:

Mihawk doesn't have the speed feats to blitz naruto at all

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#44  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@sondeatheater:

1.Point being....?

Overall better fighting capability.

2.Again, Zoro struggled heavily and had to dodge a demonstarted version before hand.Using Asura let him completely destroy the attack

And this means...?

3.It's a amplified form

4.Asura is literally based on willpower aka Haki which Zoro specializes in.

Scans?

Have you thought that maybe, Asura got stronger or that he improved its capabilities?It will still be his strongest technique in one variation or another which I can gurantee until Zoro develops a new move(or not)

Yes, and what suggests it is stronger than the current attack?

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@sondeatheater:

1.Point being....?

Overall better fighting capability.

2.Again, Zoro struggled heavily and had to dodge a demonstarted version before hand.Using Asura let him completely destroy the attack

And this means...?

3.It's a amplified form

4.Asura is literally based on willpower aka Haki which Zoro specializes in.

Scans?

Have you thought that maybe, Asura got stronger or that he improved its capabilities?It will still be his strongest technique in one variation or another which I can gurantee until Zoro develops a new move(or not)

Yes, and what suggests it is stronger than the current attack?

1.Sage Mode needs more charge time...

This will affect Zoro when he fights opponents who are kilometers above him*sarcasm*

2.None of Zoro's other attacks would've helped and he did have Sanzen Sekai before

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3."He can create an illusion with his spirit"' spirit which is aka Haki/willpower

4.Do you honestly want to bet that this is stronger than Zoro's eventual new variation of Asura?

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@sondeatheater:

1.Sage Mode needs more charge time...

When OP says sage mode naruto, it pretty much means he starts in sage mode.

This will affect Zoro when he fights opponents who are kilometers above him*sarcasm*

...And it still won't affect naruto.

2.None of Zoro's other attacks would've helped and he did have Sanzen Sekai before.

When did he use Daisen Sekai against kaku? You were also saying asura is stronger than 1080 pound canon iirc, when asura has never done anything even close to it.

3."He can create an illusion with his spirit"' spirit which is aka Haki/willpower.

Which haki is used to create illusions?

4.Do you honestly want to bet that this is stronger than Zoro's eventual new variation of Asura?

Ah, a theoretical new technique with asura. Why don't we bring in EoS sage naruto while we are at it? We know base naruto is too much for straw hats after the last, so sage naruto will be...

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Just to clarify, this is Naruto before The Last, but he can only use Sage Mode.

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pre-last naruto would lose (well, not by much i guess since he kinda caught madara by surprise in normal mode).

last naruto + post-last naruto should win via powerscaling

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#49  Edited By SonDeathEater

@princearagorn1 said:

@sondeatheater:

1.Sage Mode needs more charge time...

When OP says sage mode naruto, it pretty much means he starts in sage mode.

This will affect Zoro when he fights opponents who are kilometers above him*sarcasm*

...And it still won't affect naruto.

2.None of Zoro's other attacks would've helped and he did have Sanzen Sekai before.

When did he use Daisen Sekai against kaku? You were also saying asura is stronger than 1080 pound canon iirc, when asura has never done anything even close to it.

3."He can create an illusion with his spirit"' spirit which is aka Haki/willpower.

Which haki is used to create illusions?

4.Do you honestly want to bet that this is stronger than Zoro's eventual new variation of Asura?

Ah, a theoretical new technique with asura. Why don't we bring in EoS sage naruto while we are at it? We know base naruto is too much for straw hats after the last, so sage naruto will be...

1.Talking about Rasenshuriken set up.Why wont Zoro's cut not affect Naruto?Lol not the point though.Talking about Zoro's attack range still being very high even though he's a close range fighter.

2.He had the inferior versions before hand and hadn't used them againt Kaku to finish the battle before hand.

3.That's how Asura works.

4.So lets bet on it then.Will Zoro's eventual use of asura be his strongest move or Ichidai Sanzen Daizen Sekai

I'm pretty sure the answer will just be Zoro using both of these techniques together since Asura is like a form like Luffy's Gear 2nd or Sanji's Diable Jiambe

Plus,I didnt watch the Last yet but I doubt Base Naruto is that much stronger

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Yes, for neither of which sage naruto needs help.

So you are saying Naruto can replicate that feat?

Kenpachi is a swordsman, too..

But unlike Kenpachi who is a powerhouse brute, Zoro tries to perfect his slashes and avoids pointless DC.He himself stated this way back in TB when he got his new sword from Ryuuma

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Three of them put together, or individually?

Individually